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  2. Preaching Preference

    There is a monumental difference between Jesus' parables and illustrations than what we find today in most churches; they are full of gibberish and has nothing to do with the truth or spiritual growth.
  3. Preaching Preference

    If you get a concordance and actually look it up, Jesus himself called what he did "preaching". And his preaching was chock full of stories, parables, similes, metaphors and simple illustrations of complex truths for the common man. And he didn't quote reams of Old Testament scripture while doing it. Just sayin'. Mt 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: Mt 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
  4. is surrender required for salvation?

    I would approve the basics of the Brother Van Gelderen's answer. I would suggest that a more full answer would require that the details be "fleshed out" a bit more.
  5. is surrender required for salvation?

    Surrender or surrendered is not a biblical word. As such it is a made up word meant to justify a made up doctrine. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Seems pretty clear to me.
  6. http://revivalfocus.org/q-44-surrender-and-salvation/ What are your thoughts?
  7. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban NN because countless amounts of fruits have gave their lives for the sake of Jam.
  8. If You're New Here Please Read

    And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Revelation 22:17)
  9. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Rosie for wanting to bludgeon fruit.
  10. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Omega because nothing beats a california orange
  11. Can we count to 50 before a Mod posts?

    Nein. heheheh Back to zero.
  12. It's the same here. Kathy Gifford was on Megyn Kelly's show and made it clear that she and her family were saved as a result of Graham's ministry. I didn't listen to the clip, but apparently she made salvation clear. But then there was the leftist woman who said she hoped Graham would burn in Hell for being against abortion. I know of a number of preachers who preach in prisons. I don't know if they are classed as chaplains or not. But at least they can get in there and preach.
  13. Preaching Preference

    Yes, it is terrible when people misuse biblical terms and apply biblical words to unbiblical concepts.
  14. Whats for Supper...

    What sort of flavor does it impart?
  15. We have preachers who come to our church from time to time who are chaplains at prisons and withe the armed forces. Billy Graham has just died and although I have great problems with him, in the five minute clips on the news we heard of Christ dying and being resurrected and salvation by grace. When the so called religious leaders like the archbishop of Canterbury go on the air, you don;t hear about Christ, and certainly not grace, It is always something political.
  16. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban NN because pears are yummy.
  17. Preaching Preference

    Hi Brother Scott, Thank you for replying back. I just wanted to mention from the outset that I DO believe that Jesus did more TEACHING than PREACHING (Matt.4:23; 5:2;7:28-29; 28:19; 13:37; 4:33; Mk.4:2;34; 6:44; Lk.4:15; 5:3; 8:11; 24:27; Jn.3:2; 7:14;8:2; 2nd Jn.1:9). The issue (and the problem) is the way these words are used in the contemporary church-visible -- not what terms they may correspond to in the Bible. When someone tells me that so and so is going to "preach a sermon", I have a definite expectation because I know what a "sermon" is and also what "preaching" one means. I expect to be harangued for the better part of an hour with rising tones and rhetoric, bombarded by illustrations and "stories", and, in many cases, manipulated emotionally with heavy doses of guilt designed to get me to 1) "join"; 2) give (maybe even tithe); 3) work (at things this church wants done); and 4) "bring" others along to do 1-3 as well. What I DO NOT expect is to be taught anything about the truth resident in the scriptures. On the contrary, I expect to be subjected to a lot of half truths and erroneous "guestimations" of what this "preacher" thinks may be the truth based upon his poor preparation, sloppy approach, and questionable motivations: wanting fame, money and power -- or as he would put it, a larger witness, more resources for the ministry and a greater influence in the community "for Christ". I have read the gospels MANY times -- in Greek as well as in English. What Jesus did was teach the truth. It's OK if one want to call that "preaching", I suppose, but given what "preaching" means in the church-visible today, I think it is insult to attribute that sort of palaver and pusillanimous conduct to our dear Lord. He wielded the sword of the Spirit, the truth of the Word of God, like no other. We are supposed to follow His example. But I find the exact opposite happening in the vast majority of churches today. The only differences between most of them are the ones you note: differences is style. If someone is engaged in pornography, the "style" of it hardly matters since it is wrong whatever the "style". Similarly, if someone is promoting false positions from false motivations and failing entirely in the mandate our Lord has given, the style doesn't matter, nor do the terms with which we may wish to describe what they are doing. The main thing is to stay away from such nonsense and seek instead a place where you can grow up spiritually through the Word of God so as to be able to mature and stand the test then help others do the same. Everything else is a distraction at best and an invitation to a downward spiritual spiral at worst. If I skipped some of your questions, it's because I don't have a definitive answer to them. But I have put it on my "to do" list. God Bless!
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  19. Whats for Supper...

    I always add saffron when I do a fish stew, which isn't very often as my wife can't stand the taste of fish.
  20. Whats for Supper...

    A pinch is all you need.
  21. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Rosie, because our huge flowering pear tree is about to bloom, and though it's beautiful when it blooms, it sure does stink.
  22. Preaching Preference

    Brother Daniel, Thank you for your response. It appears that you and I would agree that our Lord Jesus Christ was not a "fire and brimstone" preacher if that phrase is intended to classify the STYLE that the phrase is so commonly intended to describe today. I still remain curious, simply for the sake of thought and discussion, how we might classify other styles of preacher. We often hear about the "fire and brimstone" style of preaching, but we really do not hear a classification for a style that is not a "fire and brimstone" style. If preaching is NOT a "fire and brimstone" style, what is it instead? Indeed, I am aware that "preaching" terminology is found in the King James translation as translation for the Greek "kerusso" family of terms. In addition, "preaching the gospel" terminology is found in the King James translation as translation for the Greek "euangelizo" family of terms. However, even combining both family of terms, I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is described as being a TEACHER and as engaged in TEACHING approximately two times as much as being a preacher and as engaged in preaching. It is interesting to me that when we want to talk about the responsibility of pastors in "the ministry of the word," we run to the preaching passage of 2 Timothy 4:1-4, but we ignore the apt to teach passage of 2 Timothy 2:24-26 and the apt to teach qualification for the pastor as given in 1 Timothy 3:2. I have not yet done the study, but I wonder what the comparison would be between the responsibility to preach and the responsibility to teach as presented throughout the pastoral epistles.
  23. If You're New Here Please Read

    I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. (Ecclesiastes 3:14)
  24. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban NN for hanging himself
  25. Preaching Preference

    Brother Scott, It is true that some translations do use the word "preach" for some passages in the Mostly "preach" translates kerusso in the NT, meaning more literally "to proclaim as a a herald" -- a proclamation of the truth which is all about substance.The purpose of the local assembly is to learn the truth from someone who is teaching the truth, and to be encouraged by someone -- and by each other -- through the proclamation of the truth. In my observation and experience, sermons are long on stories, illustrations, fancy rhetoric . . . and misinformation in terms of biblical truth. In other words, what passes for "preaching" in the church visible today has nothing to do with the Bible, neither in terms of what is commanded nor in terms of the dissemination of the truth. Interms of "fire and brimstone", this phrase usually means "scaring unbelievers into being saved by threats of hell". I think it is very obvious that this was not our Lord's approach. Not that He didn't mention hell and the consequences of unbelief, but always in a context of teaching the entire realm of biblical truth. I'm not saying that an evangelists shouldn't make the issue of our eternal choice clear to unbelievers -- clearly they should. But what does this have to do with a pastor who is speaking to a congregation of putative believers? If he is threatening hell for sin, he clearly doesn't understand a thing about the Bible nor the truth. Q.E.D God Bless!
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