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  2. WHY???

    The Lord CAN do all of those things if He so chooses, but the principle of preparation is certainly a Biblical one. Matt 6 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? How does God provide for the fowls? Do they sit in thier nests snd wait for God ti drop the foid down their throats? No! God provides for them as they go are search out their food. However to say that God WILL NOT do these things, I believe is overstepping the mark. I do think that your preparation is commendable.
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  4. WHY???

    The Lord is not our protector if we don't lift a hand to protect ourselves. The Lord will not feed us if we don't get off out butt and go to the fridge. The Lord will not fix our flat tire, and if we don't carry a spare, were stuck. The Lord will not put out that grease fire in the kitchen, and if we are too irresponsible to have a fire extinguisher in the house, God will watch our house go up in smoke. If we don't have a smoke alarm, we'll probably even die. The Lord will not heal us if we refuse to accept any medical attention available. And the physical needs of our fellow man, whither it be from the deprivations of hunger or the deprivations of a demoniac with a Glock, have NOTHING to do with politics. What the Evil One really wants is for us to find any excuse, including politics, to say that the dangers facing my fellow man are not my problem. I do not carry a weapon in this school simply because my son attends here. That is an insult. I carry because the children of my fellow man attends here, they are in danger, they were made in the image of God, they breath the very immortal breath of God, and if I don't love them, I don't love God. Love is not what we feel, it's what we do, and what we are willing to do.
  5. Preaching Preference

    First - I think at the bottom of everything, you and I would probably agree that there are a lot of "preachers" today that are not actually preaching. I guess what is bothering me a little this morning is how you are expressing your dissatisfaction with these fellows, and the broad brush you are painting with. I sincerely doubt that you have been in "most churches" to witness and judge their preaching. And even if you have, Romans 14 is very clear that it is not our job to judge another man's servant. These men are not ours to judge. If he IS a man of God, and we set him at naught because of the weakness of his preaching, we ourselves are in danger of being brought to task by the very one that both the preacher and we ourselves actually answer to. Second - as I pointed out in the post above, Jesus' own messages consisted predominately of stories. This sticks in the craw of the scholars among us (I can't for the life of me picture Jesus pointing out how many different languages He could read the scripture in), but the watchword for all of Christ's messages (be they "preaching" or "teaching") was simplicity and commonality. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't speak in terms of pusillanimous conduct. As "the right kind" of preachers, we use a lot of scripture and scripture words in our preaching, but those we preach to often do not have the same foundation. I have preached in the jungle of a 3rd world country to a crowd who were illiterate and unchurched. I had an interpreter who would translate for me, and beside him was another translator who would then translate his translation into a third language. A chicken came in strutting down the aisle, a dog came in chasing the chicken and then a naked baby came chasing the dog. Down the middle of the hut / building and up on the platform and around and around before the whole circus was eventually shooed outside. You learn to put the truth down on the dirt, where the meanest can grasp it. That means lots of stories and illustrations. Parables. Remember this, and chew on it long and hard. Like it or not, preaching is not the end. It is only the means to an end. The TRUTH is the end. And as a preacher, if you loose sight of the end while focusing on the means and methodology, you eventually loose both the method and the message. I don't know you, Omega. You obviously hold the truth, and you sound really smart and educated. Most people are not scholars, however, and most people don't like being talked down to. Even from the pulpit. Especially from the pulpit. Bottom line? While we agree that there is "wrong" preaching, there is no one RIGHT way to preach. With over 7 billion people on this planet speaking 7,000 living languages and representing almost as many unique, distinct cultures, don't put the delivery of the message in a box. As I re-read this, it comes across as a rant, and Im almost hesitant to send it. It's not intended as such, and I have no heart to offend or get in a slug-fest over this. I just wanted to express my heart. Those on here who've known me for the last few years have learned to understand my plainness without taking it personal. I hope you can as well, for I truly dont mean this as harsh as it sounds.
  6. Preaching Preference

    There is a monumental difference between Jesus' parables and illustrations than what we find today in most churches; they are full of gibberish and has nothing to do with the truth or spiritual growth.
  7. Preaching Preference

    If you get a concordance and actually look it up, Jesus himself called what he did "preaching". And his preaching was chock full of stories, parables, similes, metaphors and simple illustrations of complex truths for the common man. And he didn't quote reams of Old Testament scripture while doing it. Just sayin'. Mt 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: Mt 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
  8. is surrender required for salvation?

    I would approve the basics of the Brother Van Gelderen's answer. I would suggest that a more full answer would require that the details be "fleshed out" a bit more.
  9. is surrender required for salvation?

    Surrender or surrendered is not a biblical word. As such it is a made up word meant to justify a made up doctrine. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Seems pretty clear to me.
  10. http://revivalfocus.org/q-44-surrender-and-salvation/ What are your thoughts?
  11. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban NN because countless amounts of fruits have gave their lives for the sake of Jam.
  12. If You're New Here Please Read

    And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Revelation 22:17)
  13. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Rosie for wanting to bludgeon fruit.
  14. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Omega because nothing beats a california orange
  15. Can we count to 50 before a Mod posts?

    Nein. heheheh Back to zero.
  16. It's the same here. Kathy Gifford was on Megyn Kelly's show and made it clear that she and her family were saved as a result of Graham's ministry. I didn't listen to the clip, but apparently she made salvation clear. But then there was the leftist woman who said she hoped Graham would burn in Hell for being against abortion. I know of a number of preachers who preach in prisons. I don't know if they are classed as chaplains or not. But at least they can get in there and preach.
  17. Preaching Preference

    Yes, it is terrible when people misuse biblical terms and apply biblical words to unbiblical concepts.
  18. Whats for Supper...

    What sort of flavor does it impart?
  19. We have preachers who come to our church from time to time who are chaplains at prisons and withe the armed forces. Billy Graham has just died and although I have great problems with him, in the five minute clips on the news we heard of Christ dying and being resurrected and salvation by grace. When the so called religious leaders like the archbishop of Canterbury go on the air, you don;t hear about Christ, and certainly not grace, It is always something political.
  20. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban NN because pears are yummy.
  21. Preaching Preference

    Hi Brother Scott, Thank you for replying back. I just wanted to mention from the outset that I DO believe that Jesus did more TEACHING than PREACHING (Matt.4:23; 5:2;7:28-29; 28:19; 13:37; 4:33; Mk.4:2;34; 6:44; Lk.4:15; 5:3; 8:11; 24:27; Jn.3:2; 7:14;8:2; 2nd Jn.1:9). The issue (and the problem) is the way these words are used in the contemporary church-visible -- not what terms they may correspond to in the Bible. When someone tells me that so and so is going to "preach a sermon", I have a definite expectation because I know what a "sermon" is and also what "preaching" one means. I expect to be harangued for the better part of an hour with rising tones and rhetoric, bombarded by illustrations and "stories", and, in many cases, manipulated emotionally with heavy doses of guilt designed to get me to 1) "join"; 2) give (maybe even tithe); 3) work (at things this church wants done); and 4) "bring" others along to do 1-3 as well. What I DO NOT expect is to be taught anything about the truth resident in the scriptures. On the contrary, I expect to be subjected to a lot of half truths and erroneous "guestimations" of what this "preacher" thinks may be the truth based upon his poor preparation, sloppy approach, and questionable motivations: wanting fame, money and power -- or as he would put it, a larger witness, more resources for the ministry and a greater influence in the community "for Christ". I have read the gospels MANY times -- in Greek as well as in English. What Jesus did was teach the truth. It's OK if one want to call that "preaching", I suppose, but given what "preaching" means in the church-visible today, I think it is insult to attribute that sort of palaver and pusillanimous conduct to our dear Lord. He wielded the sword of the Spirit, the truth of the Word of God, like no other. We are supposed to follow His example. But I find the exact opposite happening in the vast majority of churches today. The only differences between most of them are the ones you note: differences is style. If someone is engaged in pornography, the "style" of it hardly matters since it is wrong whatever the "style". Similarly, if someone is promoting false positions from false motivations and failing entirely in the mandate our Lord has given, the style doesn't matter, nor do the terms with which we may wish to describe what they are doing. The main thing is to stay away from such nonsense and seek instead a place where you can grow up spiritually through the Word of God so as to be able to mature and stand the test then help others do the same. Everything else is a distraction at best and an invitation to a downward spiritual spiral at worst. If I skipped some of your questions, it's because I don't have a definitive answer to them. But I have put it on my "to do" list. God Bless!
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  23. Whats for Supper...

    I always add saffron when I do a fish stew, which isn't very often as my wife can't stand the taste of fish.
  24. Whats for Supper...

    A pinch is all you need.
  25. "Ban The Person Above You" Game

    Ban Rosie, because our huge flowering pear tree is about to bloom, and though it's beautiful when it blooms, it sure does stink.
  26. Preaching Preference

    Brother Daniel, Thank you for your response. It appears that you and I would agree that our Lord Jesus Christ was not a "fire and brimstone" preacher if that phrase is intended to classify the STYLE that the phrase is so commonly intended to describe today. I still remain curious, simply for the sake of thought and discussion, how we might classify other styles of preacher. We often hear about the "fire and brimstone" style of preaching, but we really do not hear a classification for a style that is not a "fire and brimstone" style. If preaching is NOT a "fire and brimstone" style, what is it instead? Indeed, I am aware that "preaching" terminology is found in the King James translation as translation for the Greek "kerusso" family of terms. In addition, "preaching the gospel" terminology is found in the King James translation as translation for the Greek "euangelizo" family of terms. However, even combining both family of terms, I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is described as being a TEACHER and as engaged in TEACHING approximately two times as much as being a preacher and as engaged in preaching. It is interesting to me that when we want to talk about the responsibility of pastors in "the ministry of the word," we run to the preaching passage of 2 Timothy 4:1-4, but we ignore the apt to teach passage of 2 Timothy 2:24-26 and the apt to teach qualification for the pastor as given in 1 Timothy 3:2. I have not yet done the study, but I wonder what the comparison would be between the responsibility to preach and the responsibility to teach as presented throughout the pastoral epistles.
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