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  1. I guess I'm one of the audience so thank you for speaking directly to us.
  2. Free Will an Illusion?

    Prior to seeing this article I was unaware there was such a scientific interest in the subject. The interest stretches from scientific philosophy to medical brain function. I actually came across several articles with various scientists testing the case of whether free will is fact or fiction. What I discovered from those articles is what is often discovered in scientific inquiries into new frontiers: the scientists are all over the map on the subject! Some believe they see certain proof for free will or against free will. Others fall somewhere in between with a view that some of our actions we have no free will over while others we do. As one scientist pointed out, for the average person at this moment it wouldn't make a difference if we (scientists) suddenly proved beyond a doubt humans do or don't have free will. People would still be living as they are now regardless. Naturally, in terms of broader implications, a proof positive for or against free will could have far reaching effects in the future...especially if it was found that free will doesn't exist. While these scientific endeavors are somewhat interesting, they are not near as interesting as what the Bible has to say. Now I'll have to contemplate twinkies and whether that big meal I had last night was consumed of my own free will or if I had no choice in the matter. Hmmmm...maybe I was just hungry...or was I???
  3. Free Will an Illusion?

    Free will could all be an illusion, scientists suggest after study that shows choice could just be the brain tricking itself Research adds to evidence suggesting 'even our most seemingly ironclad beliefs about our own agency and conscious experience can be dead wrong' The idea that human beings trick themselves into believing in free will was laid out in a paper by psychologists Dan Wegner and Thalia Wheatley nearly 20 years ago. They proposed the feeling of wanting to do something was real, but there may be no connection between the feeling and actually doing it. The new study builds on that work and says that the brain rewrites history when it makes its choices, changing our memories so that we believe we wanted to do something before it happened. “Whatever the case may be,” they write, “our studies add to a growing body of work suggesting that even our most seemingly ironclad beliefs about our own agency and conscious experience can be dead wrong.” The work is published in the journal Psychological Science. Entire article:
  4. Amen Kirk.

    True. Most churches today follow the worldly model of separating children through young adults into their own groups where often they receive little real Bible training, and certainly not the kind spoken of in Scripture. Just as modern culture trains children, youth, even adults to cling to childish ways, so many of our churches do the same. In many churches the only way older folks get good attention is if they try to act "cool". Then, once church is over most in the church go their separate ways, often not seeing one another again until the next church service. There are very few churches which have older men training and instructing the boys, youth and young men how to be saved, grow in Christ, how to mature and become a responsible, adult Christian man. Likewise on the female side.
  5. Part of the problem comes from the demand pastors have a degree from a Christian university or seminary. As most here know, most of these schools today range from off in some areas, to weak, watered down or outright secular in nature. Very few strive to actually teach sound doctrine, make sure they hire only teachers and professors who hold to and teach sound doctrine. Thus we have most pastors having been trained in such schools and bringing that into their churches, passing it on to their congregations, and then the next generation takes that with them when they attend a likely even worse university than their pastor attended. Along with the tide of demanding certain degrees from prospective pastors, many churches have cut off any chance of someone within their own church the Lord has called to preach from having any encouragement or chance from their church. I've seen men called to preach, who clearly had the gift and ability to preach, rejected and even fought against because they didn't have a degree to hang on their wall. If the survey indicates about a third of pastors don't believe in a literal rapture, the positive side is that about two-thirds do believe in a literal rapture. I was hopeful perhaps the RSS feeds we get from LifeWay might have one coming with the details of this survey which we could examine more closely. Given the context, it seems "the rest" would be in reference to end times matters, not the Bible as a whole. We should be very thankful for the remaining sound churches and pastors, giving them all due support even as we pray for and attempt to help others that we can.
  6. Amen Kirk.

    Even in churches, Christian schools, Christian homes, (and we see it here too) radical feminism, Hollywood manliness and other secular views infect or even dominate the teaching and upbringing. Several decades ago John R. Rice warned about women who were bossy wives, short haired and unsubmissive. At the same time many warnings went forth of men taking on a secular macho persona or a more feminine, softer demeanor. We have very little from-the-Bible training and instruction for our children, youth, young men and women or the congregation as a whole. Most of our churches separate people based upon age, these groups are often isolated from the rest and receive whatever instruction they get from one or two others. Where is the biblical mandate for older, mature in Christ men and women to be instructing the boys and girls, youth, young men and women, those needing discipleship? Where is the biblical mandate for men to hold the leadership positions, to actually lead and teach? Where are the older, mature in Christ women instructing the younger women to love their husbands, rightly train their children and fulfill their godly role in life? How about the men?
  7. Who said anything about moral relativism? Nobody has a lock on every aspect of the end times. Regardless of the particular view a Christian holds, there is not a 100% agreed upon consensus on every aspect. There are questions as to just what this or that point may mean, or the timing. There is also the fact every Christian, including pastors, grow, learn, mature at different rates and in different areas over the course of a lifetime. A pastors understanding, and therefore view, of end times matters may change many times over the years whether it be by a matter of a few degrees here and there or from one view to another. Nearly every Jew, from the most learned Bible (OT) teachers and leaders to the common man and those in-between thought they had an understanding of the First Coming of Christ but they were wrong in many aspects. There are many fine men of God here on OB and even where most are in basic agreement on end-times matters there are differences. Concluding this is due to some engaging in moral relativism and/or accepting a view from Satan doesn't fit. What pastor perfectly understands, knows and proclaims every point of Scripture from beginning to end? None.
  8. Four Blood Moons on God’s Feast Days

    Good call on warning rather than locking.
  9. easter

    Scripture also says we may differ on our holy days and the important matter is whether we are observing a holy day unto the Lord or abstaining unto the Lord or if we are doing one or the other for another reason.
  10. Where does Scripture say a pastor must hold a specific end times view or view on the timing of rapture? Our own Mike holds a different view on the timing of the rapture but he's still a pastor and not a wolf in sheep's clothing.
  11. Note: In surveys such as this, all Baptists are placed in the "Protestant" category. Large Number of Pastors Don't Believe in the Rapture End-time theology is wavering in the Christian church and a large number of Protestant pastors believe there is no rapture. Whether pre-tribulation or post rapture, a new study by LifeWay research reveals that pinning down details of the apocalypse among a group of pastors is hard to do. Although the Scriptures make it clear that Jesus is coming back, researchers found varying views on three aspects of end-time theology: the rapture, the Antichrist and the millennial kingdom. Out of the 1,000 senior Protestant pastors surveyed, only a third (36 percent) believed in a pre-tribulation rapture where Christians disappear at the start of the apocalypse and those left behind suffer tribulation. Thirty-six percent of pastors say the rapture is not literal, while almost 1 in 5 believe the rapture happens after the tribulation (18 percent). End-time theology is popular with churchgoers but it is not an easy topic to preach about, Scott McConnell, vice president of LifeWay Research, explained. "Most people want their pastor to preach about the Book of Revelation and the end of the world," he said. "But that's a complicated task. Pastors and the scholars they cite often disagree about how the end times will unfold." The diversity among eschatological views includes varying opinions on the Antichrist and beliefs in a millennial kingdom. About half of pastors (49 percent) see the Antichrist as a figure who will arise in the future, 14 percent believe he is the personification of evil, while 12 percent say he is not an actual person. Close to half of the pastors surveyed believe in pre-millennialism (48 percent), which is the view that the thousand-year reign of Christ happens in the future. A third (31 percent) of leaders don't believe in a thousand-year reign, but they do believe that Jesus already rules in the hearts and minds of Christians. Close to 1 in 10 (11 percent) believe in post-millennialism, the idea that the world will gradually become more Christian until Jesus returns. McConnell said it isn't a bad thing that pastors disagree on the details of the apocalypse because most agree on the main teachings about the Second Coming of Jesus. He said the rest doesn't affect the day-to-day life of most Christians. "The big picture of Revelation is clear: Jesus returns, people must be ready, evil is defeated," he said. "With the rest of the details, there is room for disagreement."
  12. a wife

    I'm not seeing the name-calling here. Saying someone is "wrong" isn't name-calling. Neither is saying someone is a heretick. Heretic - a professed believer who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church or rejects doctrines prescribed by that church. A person could argue as to whether or not either "wrong" or "heretick" are accurate assessments but it's hard to say either are name-calling. Personally, I prefer a more detailed reasoning as to how and why a person is "wrong" or a "heretick" (or that one is right or traditional) than a simple declaration that they are one or the other. Simply declaring "thou art a heretick" or "thy doctrine is sound" doesn't prove a position. We should also consider that IFB churches have various independent positions on a variety of topics so that what might be considered a heretical position in one IFB church would not be such in another. This gives rise to the question of whether we should declare someone outside our own church to be a heretick.
  13. It's good they actually named some names and named the source material. In this way people can know who is specifically being spoken of and their own words can be examined in the light of what the article presented.
  14. Since those things are not politically correct they would receive media outrage aimed at the non-PC people would dare to try such things. At the same time, we could expect activist groups to rise up, protest, threaten riots and bring much fear into the equation. Politicians would be quick to show their support for those downtrodden "minorities" who had been so offended. There would be no thought these people had some constitutional right to expect a business to violate their moral or religious convictions in order to placate them. In the midst of all this none of these would see or admit the double standard and hypocrisy involved in forcing Bible believing Christians to violate their morals and religious convictions while not applying the same standard to everyone else.
  15. Four Blood Moons on God’s Feast Days

    While I agree with your premise this still adds a problem for if the rebirth of Israel in 1948 was a precondition, then the return of Christ for us could not have been imminent prior to 1948.