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LindaR

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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Tithing: Established by Law   
    I believe saying that tithes is monetary income is going outside of Scripture, since nothing in Scripture supports the claim.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Tithing: Established by Law   
    For one, by making tithing a Law for the Church.

    Also, by saying that tithing is, "the paying of ten percent of our income to the Lord".  Not once in Scripture do we find that tithing is the paying of ten percent of one's income to the Lord.
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    LindaR reacted to okie chriistian in Tithing: Established by Law   
    I agree with Standing in the firm. If we are going to teach the tithe then we must teach the whole law, and I see quite a few of them that  I know nobody wants anything to do with.
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    LindaR reacted to No Nicolaitans in "Repent of Your Sins" False gospel   
    So we have learned that people in Israel are sinners and reject Christ.
    Now go to Iran, China, or maybe North Korea on an open missions trip and see how they react to you and your presenting the gospel.
    Didn't Christ say they hated him and they would hate us too? 
    Folks here know that I don't claim to be a "dispensationalist" per se, but neither do I deny God's promises to Israel. It doesn't matter if every male Israeli citizen is a homosexual, wears bloomers with a bow in his hair, and openly practices sodomy with a wink and a grin while putting on lipstick...God is greater and will perform his word.
    Your post saddened me beyond comprehension.
     
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    LindaR reacted to wretched in "Repent of Your Sins" False gospel   
    Multitudes of individual Jews believed on our Lord during His Ministry and multitudes since. Our Lord and His Apostles were Jews.
    It was the governing Jews (national Israel) that denied our Lord, not all of the masses. We are to love, pray for and witness to individual Jews all the time.
    I realize through your testimony and avatar that you are a new believer so I am posting this to save you much disappointment years from now. Make sure you search the Scriptures daily to double-check your pastor's preaching (or whomever it is that influences you). The statements you made which I bolded, did not come from the Bible contextually. I won't take the time to give you hundreds of passages clearly supporting this post but I am sure a young believer like you can look them up yourself (just word search in any NT software the word Jew).
    God said through Paul "to the Jews first" so if God says it we better be saying it. God never retracted or changed this precept.
    My point is this friend, don't take anyone's word for God's Word...ever. Get with God's Word and His Spirit to check everything you see and hear and always realize that only God's Word is true, not necessarily your pastor regardless of how inspiring or bold he is. This is not a slight directed toward your pastor or influencer. What I mean is don't follow their words blindly assuming they are right simply because they claim some "calling" from God. Acts 17:11
    One of the fastest methods to id wolves in sheep's clothing (even among IFB ranks) is how they use Scripture in topical sermons. If you catch them plucking passages out of their context to support a topic, when clearly that passage was not discussing said topic then be double-weary of everything they say from that point on. It matters not how noble or "righteous" their topic was. Remember:
    Check
    Double-Check
    then Re-Check
     
     
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Requirements for Pastors   
    If we're going to take the qualifications of the Bishop to the extreme that I am reading, then we have to ask...

    "At what point do a Pastor's children cease being his chillren?"

    The truth is, they do not cease being the Pastor's children even if they move out and/or get married.

    A child that leaves his father and mother does not cease being the child of his father and mother. So, must a Pastor step down from being a Pastor just because his married son, who lives miles away from the Pastor got drunk, or committed some other sin?  Of course not!

    But that seems to be the only logical end to the argument that children MUST be in subjection. 

    ps... I like the point about Colossians 3:20 saying ""children" are to obey their parents, so a single "child" doesn't have to obey"  It sheds some perspective one what Paul acutally means when he spoke of "children".
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    LindaR reacted to HappyChristian in Requirements for Pastors   
    I'm taking away nor adding nothing. You are ignoring what the wording means in both the Greek and the Old English. In denying that, you are projecting onto me what you yourself are doing. Ergo, it is YOU that are taking away.
    As to my not reading and absorbing what's in that passage, you don't know what you're talking about. "MUST" does not mean he "MUST" have children, but that IF he does he MUST have them under control. To try and equate the command not to be a brawler to the command that if one has children they must be under his control is what is nonsense. 
    You keep saying the plural definition of the word children. What I find highly amusing is that you are using the MODERN dictionary definition while you claim that you only use the KJV. Sorry, but that word does not always mean multiple kiddos, no matter how you try and twist it.  
    To claim that every pastor who's never been given children by God is not actually called to preach is quite a bit of hubris on your part. You are treading on some really dangerous grounds there. 
    Not using the Greek to learn what words mean is not any more spiritual than using the Greek is. But refusing to heed what a word actually means in its origin is a kind of stubbornness that is not holiness.
     
    (and, by the way - No, no, no, A CHILD does NOT have to obey his/her parents...the only time there needs to be obedience is if there are MULTIPLE children. Because the verse says, "children." If the translators had meant that those children who have no siblings are to obey their parents, they would have said so [please not: that was sarcasm]. THAT's where this type of thinking leads...) 
     
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    LindaR got a reaction from swathdiver in Way of Life:Is God Finished With Israel?   
    This message preached by Pastor Marc Monte (Faith Baptist Church, Avon, IN) on 2/25/2007, "Jews, Gentiles, and the Kingdom of God", speaks for itself.

    http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=22507215818

    Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
    Romans 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
    Romans 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
    Romans 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
    Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

    No...God is not finished with Israel.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Faithful Baptist college   
    Acts 4:1 And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,
    Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
    Acts 4:3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide.
    Acts 4:4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

    Five thousand Believers... no Baptism.

    1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

    If Baptism was a necessity in order for one to be a member of the Church, Jesus Christ would have commissioned Paul to baptize those who heard the Gospel and believed.  No commission to Baptize.

    Baptism is not a pre-requisite to becoming a member of Christ's Church.
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    LindaR reacted to RSS Robot in Way of Life:Is God Finished With Israel?   
    Is God Finished With Israel?
    We are told by many that God is finished with Israel, that she has been replaced with the church, and that the church is Zion, and the earthly Jerusalem has been replaced with the heavenly Jerusalem.
    We have long been told this by covenant theologians who follow the “church fathers” that devised this view. Now we are hearing replacement theology taught by some Independent Baptists.
    In the video Marching to Zion , Steven Anderson teaches that Israel today, the Israel that returned to the land and established a modern state, is not the Israel of the Bible. Rather, God is finished with the nation Israel and New Testament believers are the “true Israel.... Read More View the full article
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    LindaR reacted to No Nicolaitans in Faithful Baptist college   
    They are Briders.
    Edited to add: I haven't taken their courses, so I can't speak as to whether the courses reflect Briderism.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Tithing: Established by Law   
    Also, in this paragraph...

    "This is in reference to the text in Gen. 14, and notice the contrast that is drawn in V. 8: "Here" refers to the Levitical priesthood (under the Law) which had just been dealt with, while "there" refers to the Melchizedecan priesthood which typified Christ's priesthood under the New Testament dispensation. The conclusion is irresistible: tithes are to be received in the New Testament dispensation as well as under the old dispensation. This is the only logical meaning of this text."

    The author mentions the contrast of the people being compared, yet fails to point out that Hebrews 7 is also contrasting the tithes given in the "here" and there". 

    The "here" is the tithe according to the Law, i.e.; agricultural.  I believe the "there" is tithes of war spoils.  But, even if the "there" was speaking of the tithes being received by the Levites, they would not be money, for they are "according to the Law." (v.5) 

    Either way, tithes of monetary income has to be inserted into the text.  The author of Hebrews does not say money is to be tithed. 

    Are we supposed to preach the word? If so, then we cannot preach that God requires tithes of monetary income.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Tithing: Established by Law   
    The biggest problem with the article is the fact that one has to go outside of Scripture to teach that God requires monetary tithes.

    Not one verse in the Bible teaches that God requires monetary tithes.  It is interesting that BBC quotes 1 Corinthians 9:13-14, stressing the "even so" in the text means "in like manner", and yet teach a tithe that is not "in like manner to the tithes taught in the word of God.

    If they were teaching "like manner" tithes, they would be teaching tithing from war spoils, or tithing from agricultural increase."  Those are the only tithes taught in the Bible.

    They don't teach, "like manner" tithes... they teach a tithe that neither Abram, nor the children of Israel ever tithed in the Scripture.

    The author of the article also used Matthew 5:17-20 to bolster the claim that tithes are to be required.  And yet, if the Law is still in effect as they claim, then it is not enough to say God requires a tithe. 

    One must also teach what God said the tithe is to consist of, where it is to be taken, to whom it is to be given, and when it is to be given. 

    To observe one point of the Law, (thou shalt surely tithe" without observing the rest of the Law (agricultural; to Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners; in the promised land; at the end of the harvest) is NOT observing the Law.

    James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

    Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Abram's Obedience Test   
    I never said Abram didn't give tithes to the Priest of the Most High God. 

    My view is not "flawed" at all. 

    Hebrews 7:2 is not saying that Melchizedek had no parents.  It simply means there is no genealogical record of who his parents were.  Nor is there a record of his birth, nor of his death.

    Hebrews 7:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

    Melchizedek had a "descent".  He had a genealogy.  It is just not know who his parents were.  We do know the genealogy of Jesus Christ.  It is given in both the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke.
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    LindaR got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The Proper Teaching of Malachi 3:7-11
    by Ronald W Robey
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that tithing was an ordinance (v.7) given to national Israel, not to the Church. (Lev. 27:30-34; Mal. 1:1; 2:1)
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that Malachi was referring to a tithe of crops and livestock… not money. (Lev. 27:30-33)
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that the curse associated with not tithing was allowing the locusts to eat the crops, (v.11) and withholding of rain (Gen. 7:5; 8:2)… not loss of money, loss of job, ill health, automotive engine failures, broken families, etc..
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that the blessings associated with tithing was God sending rain from heaven (Gen. 7:5; 8:2; Mal. 3:11) and preventing the locust from eating the crops… bringing about a bountiful harvest… not more money, better job, good health, perfect running vehicles, close-knit family, etc..
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 is that rhe rebuke and admonition was delivered to the Priests of Israel, (Mal. 2:1) not to the Church. The Church was not robbing God… the Priests of Israel were.
    Monetary tithe requirement teachers clearly distort the proper teaching of Malachi 3, turning the rebuke and admonition intended for the Priests of Israel into something that God never decreed. The monetary tithe requirement doctrine is an improper and abusive doctrine that oppresses the laborer from his wages, the widows and orphans. It has no place in the pulpit of the post-crucifixion Church. (Acts 15:19-20; 2 Cor. 9:6-7)
    Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
    Pastors need to allow the light to shine upon their hearts and minds as they study God’s Word. Take off the blinders of religion, opinion, and tradition; interpret the Scripture with the mind of Christ. If they do, God will reveal to them that which He has revealed to many concerning the tithes of the Mosaic/Levitic Law. If they allow God’s Word to speak for itself, they will come to no other conclusion than that God never imposed a monetary tithe upon Tabernacle, Temple, Synagogue or Church.
    https://boldproclaimer.wordpress.com/2015/07/13/the-proper-teaching-of-malachi-37-11/
     
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    LindaR got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The Proper Teaching of Malachi 3:7-11
    by Ronald W Robey
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that tithing was an ordinance (v.7) given to national Israel, not to the Church. (Lev. 27:30-34; Mal. 1:1; 2:1)
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that Malachi was referring to a tithe of crops and livestock… not money. (Lev. 27:30-33)
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that the curse associated with not tithing was allowing the locusts to eat the crops, (v.11) and withholding of rain (Gen. 7:5; 8:2)… not loss of money, loss of job, ill health, automotive engine failures, broken families, etc..
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 should be that the blessings associated with tithing was God sending rain from heaven (Gen. 7:5; 8:2; Mal. 3:11) and preventing the locust from eating the crops… bringing about a bountiful harvest… not more money, better job, good health, perfect running vehicles, close-knit family, etc..
    The proper teaching from Malachi 3:7-11 is that rhe rebuke and admonition was delivered to the Priests of Israel, (Mal. 2:1) not to the Church. The Church was not robbing God… the Priests of Israel were.
    Monetary tithe requirement teachers clearly distort the proper teaching of Malachi 3, turning the rebuke and admonition intended for the Priests of Israel into something that God never decreed. The monetary tithe requirement doctrine is an improper and abusive doctrine that oppresses the laborer from his wages, the widows and orphans. It has no place in the pulpit of the post-crucifixion Church. (Acts 15:19-20; 2 Cor. 9:6-7)
    Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
    Pastors need to allow the light to shine upon their hearts and minds as they study God’s Word. Take off the blinders of religion, opinion, and tradition; interpret the Scripture with the mind of Christ. If they do, God will reveal to them that which He has revealed to many concerning the tithes of the Mosaic/Levitic Law. If they allow God’s Word to speak for itself, they will come to no other conclusion than that God never imposed a monetary tithe upon Tabernacle, Temple, Synagogue or Church.
    https://boldproclaimer.wordpress.com/2015/07/13/the-proper-teaching-of-malachi-37-11/
     
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    LindaR got a reaction from BroMatt in Having fun after Church service in south Georgia!   
    This youtube went viral.  These four piano players were having fun after a Wednesday night church service.  They used no music...simply playing from a list of hymns written in a notebook.  Enjoy!
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    LindaR got a reaction from BroMatt in Having fun after Church service in south Georgia!   
    This youtube went viral.  These four piano players were having fun after a Wednesday night church service.  They used no music...simply playing from a list of hymns written in a notebook.  Enjoy!
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    Here is a video where I was interviewed when my book, "The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?" went to the Publishers.
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    LindaR got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The Biblical agricultural tithes which God commanded for the children of Israel (farmers and herders) were to FEED the tribe of Levi during their time of service working in the tabernacle (not in the wilderness) and later the temple, when they were living in the land of Canaan/Israel. 

    What do your man-made monetary tithes sustain?   Your pastor's lifestyle (which doesn't have to be lavish), paying the rent in the place/building where you meet to worship, extra-curricular activities, perhaps missions, etc.   This was NEVER the purpose of the Biblical agricultural tithe.   Tithes were EATEN....do you eat money?   Free will, sacrificial and grace giving works fine to sustain all that a church requires to meet their needs.  What you give as biblical tithes are not biblical tithes....but simply 10% of your gross income.  Biblical tithes were never monetary throughout the Bible and nobody has ever given Scriptural proof that a monetary tithe was EVER commanded by God.  It is a man-made doctrine.
    Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    Your opinions don't justify the compulsory monetary tithe, so you can stop bragging about how your man-made tithes are used.  I'm not impressed.  And as for house churches......that's a matter of opinion also.  The first century church met in houses DAILY to break bread and fellowship/worship.  Three thousand were saved on the day of Pentecost.  The upper room was somebody's house.

    Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.   
    Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 
    Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,   
    Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.   
    Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
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    LindaR got a reaction from wretched in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    No, we don't have a website.
    What difference does it make where we "operate" or how many people are present  at a worship service?  Why are you so "into" numbers?  Whether there are five, ten, twenty, or whatever number are present is not important.
    Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    Soul winning should not be an "extra curricular" activity of the born again Christian.  It should be an everyday event in the life of the born again Christian.  We are to be about sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ daily.  We are not going to "win" everyone....we are to plant seeds and God will bring in the increase.
    1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
    1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
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    LindaR reacted to Ronda in Is a home church a biblical church?   
    Matt.18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
    1 Cor.6:17 "But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit."
    1 Cor.6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"
    1 Cor.12:12-14
     "For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
     For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
     For the body is not one member, but many."
    I suppose it all depends on what one believes... what they've been indoctrinated to believe? Or what God's word says?
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in Is a home church a biblical church?   
    1 Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

    In the Church...

    The Church is not a brick-and-mortar edifice.  It is a living, breathing organism.  God no longer dwells in Temples made with hands, but now dwells in a people.

    "When ye come together in the Church" simply means "when ye come together as a Body... because... the Church is a Body. 

    Colossians 1:18 And He is the head of the Body, the Church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    Christ's Body is not brick and mortar.  It is those who have trusted Him as the propitiation for their sin.
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    LindaR reacted to Standing Firm In Christ in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The first century AD Church had 3,000 added to it in one day.  Funny thing, thirty-six years later, when the Epistles of John were written, there were still house churches. 

    I don't recall a single admonition given by the Apostles in the Bible, for people to stop having house churches.  I may have missed it though.  I've only been reading and studying the Bible for thirty-eight years now.  If you know the verse that says people are discouraged from meeting in houses, please post it.  I'd really love to see it.

    If our church grows to where it is too big to meet in a home, we may get a bigger building.  Or, we may emulate the pattern seen in the first century AD... we may go from house to house preaching the word and breaking bread. 

    Why is a big building necessary?  Why take on such an overhead?  Big buildings mean that, not only does the pastor have his home electric bill to pay, now he must pay on another electric bill.  Not only do the church members have their own electric bill to pay, they now must help pay another electric bill. 

    If they are using the electric in their homes anyway, why not meet in their homes while the electricity is being used? 

    Then, there's the rent of the building.  People are paying their rent and mortgage payments already.  Why burden them with another rent payment?  It seems more economical to emulate the first century AD Christians and meet house to house and lay off the overhead costs of another building that they would only meet three times a week on average?

    I thought about that $6,000/mo. cost of renting a place to worship in a strip mall.  I think how such an exorbitant amount could feed many hungry in the community.  Now, your pastor may feel justified in renting such a big place.  I could not.

    Even if the Church I pastor grew to 3000, I could not justify paying for a big building.  I would instead train others to pastor and teach them to go house to house, breaking bread and sharing God's truth.
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    LindaR got a reaction from Standing Firm In Christ in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The Biblical agricultural tithes which God commanded for the children of Israel (farmers and herders) were to FEED the tribe of Levi during their time of service working in the tabernacle (not in the wilderness) and later the temple, when they were living in the land of Canaan/Israel. 

    What do your man-made monetary tithes sustain?   Your pastor's lifestyle (which doesn't have to be lavish), paying the rent in the place/building where you meet to worship, extra-curricular activities, perhaps missions, etc.   This was NEVER the purpose of the Biblical agricultural tithe.   Tithes were EATEN....do you eat money?   Free will, sacrificial and grace giving works fine to sustain all that a church requires to meet their needs.  What you give as biblical tithes are not biblical tithes....but simply 10% of your gross income.  Biblical tithes were never monetary throughout the Bible and nobody has ever given Scriptural proof that a monetary tithe was EVER commanded by God.  It is a man-made doctrine.
    Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    Your opinions don't justify the compulsory monetary tithe, so you can stop bragging about how your man-made tithes are used.  I'm not impressed.  And as for house churches......that's a matter of opinion also.  The first century church met in houses DAILY to break bread and fellowship/worship.  Three thousand were saved on the day of Pentecost.  The upper room was somebody's house.

    Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.   
    Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 
    Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,   
    Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.   
    Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
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