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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from BabeinChrist in How Can You Tell That A Pastor Is Very Poor?   
    Shouldn't all sermons come from the Bible?
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Tithing: Established by Law   
    I believe saying that tithes is monetary income is going outside of Scripture, since nothing in Scripture supports the claim.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from okie chriistian in Tithing: Established by Law   
    For one, by making tithing a Law for the Church.

    Also, by saying that tithing is, "the paying of ten percent of our income to the Lord".  Not once in Scripture do we find that tithing is the paying of ten percent of one's income to the Lord.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from okie chriistian in Tithing: Established by Law   
    For one, by making tithing a Law for the Church.

    Also, by saying that tithing is, "the paying of ten percent of our income to the Lord".  Not once in Scripture do we find that tithing is the paying of ten percent of one's income to the Lord.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from Invicta in "Repent of Your Sins" False gospel   
    The Psalmist once said, "If I regard iniquity in mine heart, the LORD will not hear me."

    I believe that those who "love their lifestyle" too much to be willing to trun from it, have no chance of Salvation until they come to the place that they understand that they are totally lost in that lifestyle. God resists the proud, but gives more grace to the humble.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Mr.   
    Comment deleted - stop pushing your agenda. OB staff
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from Invicta in "Repent of Your Sins" False gospel   
    The Psalmist once said, "If I regard iniquity in mine heart, the LORD will not hear me."

    I believe that those who "love their lifestyle" too much to be willing to trun from it, have no chance of Salvation until they come to the place that they understand that they are totally lost in that lifestyle. God resists the proud, but gives more grace to the humble.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Requirements for Pastors   
    If we're going to take the qualifications of the Bishop to the extreme that I am reading, then we have to ask...

    "At what point do a Pastor's children cease being his chillren?"

    The truth is, they do not cease being the Pastor's children even if they move out and/or get married.

    A child that leaves his father and mother does not cease being the child of his father and mother. So, must a Pastor step down from being a Pastor just because his married son, who lives miles away from the Pastor got drunk, or committed some other sin?  Of course not!

    But that seems to be the only logical end to the argument that children MUST be in subjection. 

    ps... I like the point about Colossians 3:20 saying ""children" are to obey their parents, so a single "child" doesn't have to obey"  It sheds some perspective one what Paul acutally means when he spoke of "children".
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Requirements for Pastors   
    If we're going to take the qualifications of the Bishop to the extreme that I am reading, then we have to ask...

    "At what point do a Pastor's children cease being his chillren?"

    The truth is, they do not cease being the Pastor's children even if they move out and/or get married.

    A child that leaves his father and mother does not cease being the child of his father and mother. So, must a Pastor step down from being a Pastor just because his married son, who lives miles away from the Pastor got drunk, or committed some other sin?  Of course not!

    But that seems to be the only logical end to the argument that children MUST be in subjection. 

    ps... I like the point about Colossians 3:20 saying ""children" are to obey their parents, so a single "child" doesn't have to obey"  It sheds some perspective one what Paul acutally means when he spoke of "children".
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from Invicta in Baptism and church membership?   
    I would say, "The Lord's Church is comprised of all who have trusted Christ for their Salvation and as the propitiation for their sin; whether they are baptized in water or not."
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from Invicta in Baptism and church membership?   
    Saved, but not part of the Church?
     
    preposterous!
     
    Acts 2:47 (KJV) 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
     
    The saved of God are added to the Church... whether water baptized, or not.
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    Standing Firm In Christ reacted to No Nicolaitans in Faithful Baptist college   
    Friend, I don't know where you stand on the issue of "Baptist Briderism", but I can tell you are excited about the opportunity that the college offers. 
    Don't let anything that has transpired here squelch your enthusiasm for deeper study. My "acquaintance" was well grounded in God's word; therefore, he could separate the good from the bad as far as the courses' contents (which I don't personally recommend).
     I can certainly understand the draw of a free College; however, there is no Bible college (that I'm aware of) that I agree with 100%.
    Would I recommend Faithful Baptist College? No.
    I have a degree from a similar institution (it wasn't free, but it was affordable); in that, it was distance learning. I didn't agree with everything I learned there either. What I learned was this...I didn't learn anything that I didn't already know from my own personal study...except for the things I didn't agree with. 
    Be careful and be wise in your exploration of things like this, but don't let any "bad news" curb your enthusiasm for learning. Nothing...and I repeat...NOTHING...can take the place of personal Bible study with the Holy Spirit's direction. While today's churches may want a pastor (or staff member) who has a degree, that's just the world's influence on the church in my opinion. I'm not ashamed to admit that I got my degree because I felt it was needed in today's "church society". Too many churches have succumbed to worldly influences in demanding such things as this. I don't think the apostles had a college degree , but they had something better...personal teaching from God himself. We have the same opportunity today through the Holy Spirit. I have a degree, but it's inside of the same envelope that I received it in years ago. 
    If you want to pursue a degree, then I think that's admirable...just don't let getting a degree be your end-goal. My beliefs are what I've learned from my own personal study...not from what my college studies taught me. Your end-goal should be to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, and that is best done through the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
    Others may disagree with my stance on this, so take what I've said as such. This is my own personal input based on years of my own personal experience. Your experience (and other's) may differ. I just gave this as food for thought.
    May the Lord bless you as you seek to serve him.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Faithful Baptist college   
    Acts 4:1 And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,
    Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
    Acts 4:3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide.
    Acts 4:4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

    Five thousand Believers... no Baptism.

    1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

    If Baptism was a necessity in order for one to be a member of the Church, Jesus Christ would have commissioned Paul to baptize those who heard the Gospel and believed.  No commission to Baptize.

    Baptism is not a pre-requisite to becoming a member of Christ's Church.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from HappyChristian in Faithful Baptist college   
    Their "Statement of Faith" sure makes it look like they are Brider's.

    "Only those Baptized in the Lord's Churches"
    "Non Baptist Baptist should be rejected"
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Tithing: Established by Law   
    Also, in this paragraph...

    "This is in reference to the text in Gen. 14, and notice the contrast that is drawn in V. 8: "Here" refers to the Levitical priesthood (under the Law) which had just been dealt with, while "there" refers to the Melchizedecan priesthood which typified Christ's priesthood under the New Testament dispensation. The conclusion is irresistible: tithes are to be received in the New Testament dispensation as well as under the old dispensation. This is the only logical meaning of this text."

    The author mentions the contrast of the people being compared, yet fails to point out that Hebrews 7 is also contrasting the tithes given in the "here" and there". 

    The "here" is the tithe according to the Law, i.e.; agricultural.  I believe the "there" is tithes of war spoils.  But, even if the "there" was speaking of the tithes being received by the Levites, they would not be money, for they are "according to the Law." (v.5) 

    Either way, tithes of monetary income has to be inserted into the text.  The author of Hebrews does not say money is to be tithed. 

    Are we supposed to preach the word? If so, then we cannot preach that God requires tithes of monetary income.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Tithing: Established by Law   
    The biggest problem with the article is the fact that one has to go outside of Scripture to teach that God requires monetary tithes.

    Not one verse in the Bible teaches that God requires monetary tithes.  It is interesting that BBC quotes 1 Corinthians 9:13-14, stressing the "even so" in the text means "in like manner", and yet teach a tithe that is not "in like manner to the tithes taught in the word of God.

    If they were teaching "like manner" tithes, they would be teaching tithing from war spoils, or tithing from agricultural increase."  Those are the only tithes taught in the Bible.

    They don't teach, "like manner" tithes... they teach a tithe that neither Abram, nor the children of Israel ever tithed in the Scripture.

    The author of the article also used Matthew 5:17-20 to bolster the claim that tithes are to be required.  And yet, if the Law is still in effect as they claim, then it is not enough to say God requires a tithe. 

    One must also teach what God said the tithe is to consist of, where it is to be taken, to whom it is to be given, and when it is to be given. 

    To observe one point of the Law, (thou shalt surely tithe" without observing the rest of the Law (agricultural; to Levites, widows, orphans and foreigners; in the promised land; at the end of the harvest) is NOT observing the Law.

    James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

    Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Abram's Obedience Test   
    I never said Abram didn't give tithes to the Priest of the Most High God. 

    My view is not "flawed" at all. 

    Hebrews 7:2 is not saying that Melchizedek had no parents.  It simply means there is no genealogical record of who his parents were.  Nor is there a record of his birth, nor of his death.

    Hebrews 7:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

    Melchizedek had a "descent".  He had a genealogy.  It is just not know who his parents were.  We do know the genealogy of Jesus Christ.  It is given in both the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from swathdiver in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    No, I don't speak in tongues.  Nor do I do the "slain in the Spirit" thing.

    I got out of the Pentecostal movement the same year I was ordained. (approximately 4 months after)

    I have been Independent Fundamental Baptist since late-1988.  I felt God calling me to start a new ministry in Northern Virginia.  As I studied in preparation for that ministry, the Spirit began opening my eyes to practices in the Pentecostal movement that could not be supported by Scripture at all.

    When I left that movement to begin a new ministry, I left much of its doctrines behind.

    Did I ever believe in speaking in tongues or being "slain in the Spirit"?  To be perfectly honest, my spirit never did set well with the doctrine.  But I had been raised in that environment. 

    I knew the word and was often called to speak.  I just never approached those two subjects, because, as I said, I was troubled in my spirit about them all along.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from BabeinChrist in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    As to the "slain in the Spirit" thing, I often tell people, "If ever I am in a service and something like that starts happening, I hope I am standing behind one of those who are being "slain".

    If I am, as soon as I see them start to fall, I will gladly step to the side and let them fall.

    After all, if the Spirit is knocking them down, who am I to hinder the Spirit?  If He wants to knock them down, He will knock them down at the speed that He wants.  Catching them will hinder them from falling, thereby hindering the Spirit.

    If it was the Spirit that knocked them down, they'll stay down.  If not, they will get up quickly and I;ll see what kind of spirit really knocked them down  LoL"
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    Here is a video where I was interviewed when my book, "The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?" went to the Publishers.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The first century AD Church had 3,000 added to it in one day.  Funny thing, thirty-six years later, when the Epistles of John were written, there were still house churches. 

    I don't recall a single admonition given by the Apostles in the Bible, for people to stop having house churches.  I may have missed it though.  I've only been reading and studying the Bible for thirty-eight years now.  If you know the verse that says people are discouraged from meeting in houses, please post it.  I'd really love to see it.

    If our church grows to where it is too big to meet in a home, we may get a bigger building.  Or, we may emulate the pattern seen in the first century AD... we may go from house to house preaching the word and breaking bread. 

    Why is a big building necessary?  Why take on such an overhead?  Big buildings mean that, not only does the pastor have his home electric bill to pay, now he must pay on another electric bill.  Not only do the church members have their own electric bill to pay, they now must help pay another electric bill. 

    If they are using the electric in their homes anyway, why not meet in their homes while the electricity is being used? 

    Then, there's the rent of the building.  People are paying their rent and mortgage payments already.  Why burden them with another rent payment?  It seems more economical to emulate the first century AD Christians and meet house to house and lay off the overhead costs of another building that they would only meet three times a week on average?

    I thought about that $6,000/mo. cost of renting a place to worship in a strip mall.  I think how such an exorbitant amount could feed many hungry in the community.  Now, your pastor may feel justified in renting such a big place.  I could not.

    Even if the Church I pastor grew to 3000, I could not justify paying for a big building.  I would instead train others to pastor and teach them to go house to house, breaking bread and sharing God's truth.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Is a home church a biblical church?   
    1 Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

    In the Church...

    The Church is not a brick-and-mortar edifice.  It is a living, breathing organism.  God no longer dwells in Temples made with hands, but now dwells in a people.

    "When ye come together in the Church" simply means "when ye come together as a Body... because... the Church is a Body. 

    Colossians 1:18 And He is the head of the Body, the Church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    Christ's Body is not brick and mortar.  It is those who have trusted Him as the propitiation for their sin.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in Is a home church a biblical church?   
    1 Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

    In the Church...

    The Church is not a brick-and-mortar edifice.  It is a living, breathing organism.  God no longer dwells in Temples made with hands, but now dwells in a people.

    "When ye come together in the Church" simply means "when ye come together as a Body... because... the Church is a Body. 

    Colossians 1:18 And He is the head of the Body, the Church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

    Christ's Body is not brick and mortar.  It is those who have trusted Him as the propitiation for their sin.
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    Standing Firm In Christ got a reaction from LindaR in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The first century AD Church had 3,000 added to it in one day.  Funny thing, thirty-six years later, when the Epistles of John were written, there were still house churches. 

    I don't recall a single admonition given by the Apostles in the Bible, for people to stop having house churches.  I may have missed it though.  I've only been reading and studying the Bible for thirty-eight years now.  If you know the verse that says people are discouraged from meeting in houses, please post it.  I'd really love to see it.

    If our church grows to where it is too big to meet in a home, we may get a bigger building.  Or, we may emulate the pattern seen in the first century AD... we may go from house to house preaching the word and breaking bread. 

    Why is a big building necessary?  Why take on such an overhead?  Big buildings mean that, not only does the pastor have his home electric bill to pay, now he must pay on another electric bill.  Not only do the church members have their own electric bill to pay, they now must help pay another electric bill. 

    If they are using the electric in their homes anyway, why not meet in their homes while the electricity is being used? 

    Then, there's the rent of the building.  People are paying their rent and mortgage payments already.  Why burden them with another rent payment?  It seems more economical to emulate the first century AD Christians and meet house to house and lay off the overhead costs of another building that they would only meet three times a week on average?

    I thought about that $6,000/mo. cost of renting a place to worship in a strip mall.  I think how such an exorbitant amount could feed many hungry in the community.  Now, your pastor may feel justified in renting such a big place.  I could not.

    Even if the Church I pastor grew to 3000, I could not justify paying for a big building.  I would instead train others to pastor and teach them to go house to house, breaking bread and sharing God's truth.
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    Standing Firm In Christ reacted to LindaR in The Biblical Tithe: Cash or Crops?   
    The Biblical agricultural tithes which God commanded for the children of Israel (farmers and herders) were to FEED the tribe of Levi during their time of service working in the tabernacle (not in the wilderness) and later the temple, when they were living in the land of Canaan/Israel. 

    What do your man-made monetary tithes sustain?   Your pastor's lifestyle (which doesn't have to be lavish), paying the rent in the place/building where you meet to worship, extra-curricular activities, perhaps missions, etc.   This was NEVER the purpose of the Biblical agricultural tithe.   Tithes were EATEN....do you eat money?   Free will, sacrificial and grace giving works fine to sustain all that a church requires to meet their needs.  What you give as biblical tithes are not biblical tithes....but simply 10% of your gross income.  Biblical tithes were never monetary throughout the Bible and nobody has ever given Scriptural proof that a monetary tithe was EVER commanded by God.  It is a man-made doctrine.
    Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    Your opinions don't justify the compulsory monetary tithe, so you can stop bragging about how your man-made tithes are used.  I'm not impressed.  And as for house churches......that's a matter of opinion also.  The first century church met in houses DAILY to break bread and fellowship/worship.  Three thousand were saved on the day of Pentecost.  The upper room was somebody's house.

    Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.   
    Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 
    Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,   
    Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.   
    Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
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