I am a pet lover but I see no Biblical support that our pets will be in Heaven. Pastors, popes and laymen that preach that they will be in Heaven often do so for emotional reasons. Theology should never come from our emotions but from the Bible alone.
I see a lot of criticism of Ruckman and Gail on here but no one giving first hand evidence as Steve mentioned. I don't care for Gail acting as a pastor at times and Ruckman's name calling but as for accusations of misquotes first hand examples should be given. Steve is correct, all men are liars. I have yet to meet someone have has never lied in their lifetime. Fundamentalism's biggest weakness is everyone flocking to their own leaders. For some it is David Cloud, for others it is Ruckman. For others still it may be Sword of the Lord leaders or some school they attended. We need to go back to the Bible. The Bible alone needs to be our sole authority.
The King James Bible is perfect for many reasons which I don't have time to get into. God promised to preserve his words. Modern versions, such as the ESV and NIV, are always coming out with new versions which change words. The King James Bible has stood the test of time and doesn't lack important passages that the modern Bibles lack. Finally, the modern Bibles contain legitimate conflicts which are not in the King James Bible.
I have been following Cloud for years now. I have not seen a change in him but I have seen changes in many IFB churches that gives them reason to be called out. The apostles called people out in the Bible and good ministries should do the same so that people will be made aware of what is going on.
The following update, from Bro. Cloud's wife, Linda, was received at noon (EST) today.
I just returned home from the hospital (it is 8:30 pm here) and joyously can report that David has improved some. I don't believe he would be listed as actually serious now, for which we are so thankful. He had a bit of clear soup and some tea today, and was able to breathe a bit better, though there is still fluid in his lung. He had no pain today for the first time, which is also a very good sign. The doctors are hopeful he will recover enough to go home after a few more days.
I attribute this all to the prayers of God's people. Yesterday the doctors spoke very frankly and openly and expressed concern that his pancreas might not bounce back and that other organs might begin to show signs of trouble (as his left lung has already). But today, though still guarded, the doctors were much more hopeful.
I feel sure he will make a good recovery and will be home within a week. I'll keep you posted as I can. (No internet from the hospital, so I have to wait until I arrive home in the evenings to email.)
Our Bible school boys have been taking turns staying with him at night so I can get some rest. This is most gracious of them and I just love them so much for their concern and help.
I am 100% convinced that David was better today because of the prayers of God's people. I will forever be grateful for those prayers!
Truth is truth no matter how much time has past. Cloud speaks on a lot more than just music. When he speaks on things such as Calvinism and easy believism the information is never "old". I agree, sometimes Cloud and others should update their examples when it comes to music. The Beatles though are still popular and there was a concert here in Minnesota recently by Paul McCartney, a former Beatle, who was given positive reviews by some IFB members. Also, a lot of "Christian" artists continue, to this day, to list The Beatles as an influence. When I started posting several years ago I was pro CCM . David Cloud was one of the people that helped me realize my folly along with the They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll video even though it was outdated at the time. Sure, some will always harden their hearts and give into their sinful desires but that doesn't mean we stop preaching the truth.
Yet I see IFB churches still turning to CCM , Calvinism and modern Bibles. He needs to keep speaking since there are those that still need to listen. Most IFB leaders are ignorant of the issues and would benefit to listen to what brother Cloud has to say.
I normally would just send a PM but I would like to thank DaveW, Winman and others for speaking out against Calvinism. It is finding it's way into our churches and schools. We need to speak out boldly against these false teachings and not allow it to get it's foot in the door.
It is well known that Calvinists teach that Jesus didn't really die for all men. I have debated with several of them. Sure, you will find some people that are 4 or 3 point Calvinists and they may deny Limited Atonement. All that means is they are biblically wrong in 3 or 4 areas instead of 5.