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DaveW last won the day on December 30 2016

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  1. Different situation but related: Many years ago I investigated becoming a school chaplain as an outreach possibility. When reading the paperwork after the information session I saw that one of the things you must agree to (signed statement)was not to "promote your religious views", and the Bible would not be used in counselling. This was a signed contract and so opened you up to legal action if you broke it. What was the point to a chaplain who cannot use the Bible? This was also a government requirement, not a school based thing by the way. I understand that this has now changed, but it was the case years ago where I am.
  2. I wasn't going to reply, and probably shouldn't now, but I find it interesting that you misquote, belittle, and make fun of me and THEN post this. I find this very offensive.
  3. We can't see a man's heart of course, but what you describe makes you wonder. Here in Australia we don't have it so much - Aussies tend to be a bit more up front and just dispense with politeness and tell you outright they are not interested. What that means is that you get less initial "response", but unfortunately we don't get a better % of success. Still lots of people who get "saved" who are never heard from again.....
  4. Brethren, let me explain why this post and this kind of claim is so offensive to me. If an unsaved person comes onto this site searching for truth, and comes to this site expecting (rightly) to gain an understanding of what an independent baptist church is, and they find a statement made by IB that says "Most IB are involved somewhat with the RCC..." they will stop looking at independent baptist churches. Because they will read this and think to themselves "If independent baptists think that most independent baptist churches are bad then why should I bother looking at any of them?" There was no qualification, no explanation, and no restriction on the accusation. In this situation, a searching unsaved person will not think "If most are bad then that means I have to search for a good one"; they are far more likely to think "If even the IB's think that most are bad, then I will look somewhere else entirely.". And to then turn and say that it is just a warning holds no water - no one here would dispute the need for warning and protection, but this quote above is a simple, unexplained and unqualified accusation against "Most Independent baptists". It really does roll all of us into one barrel. Read this post not as an IB but as a searching unsaved person - would it encourage or discourage you from looking further into independent baptist churches? And if it direct you away, then were will you go to find the truth? So, yes, I indeed can be fair - and that is all I ask of you also. Note that I am one of the most outspoken on this site about keeping Independent Baptist churches real independent baptist churches - I do not want the warnings to stop, nor do I want to hide my head in the sand. I am independent baptist by personal study based conviction.
  5. Well, I personally don't appreciate being lumped into an indiscriminate grouping like this. And I certainly KNOW that he hasn't been to the church I am at..... Ever....... But, he appears to want to defame this church with all the others. That, I guess, is his right...... but it is hardly fair.
  6. Often times my phone now. I had a small complete Bible, pocket sized, but it got washed one day and I haven't found a replacement as good (text size, etc). At church I use my "preaching Bible". I have a cheap "give away bible" in the car at all times. I use whatever is appropriate and at hand at the time.
  7. A suggestion: I have on occasion had a multi-person PM, but I wonder if there is scope for making "private discussion rooms" where only invited people can come to discuss whatever they like. I don't know how hard or even if it is possible, but I see it as basically being invitation only forums, where threads can be started like in any other section of the board, but it is only by direct invitation of one of the members that they can be read or posted in. Of course the Mods will still have access to keep control. It would be best if the mods or admin didn't have to be involved, because they don't need any more work. Not really sure on all the details of my own thoughts on it, just an idea ......
  8. This proves you are not concerned with accuracy but with agreement. I have nothing more to say.
  9. Obviously not concerned enough about accuracy to point out the faulty references here............ Or rather it shows the level of concern for accuracy - if you agree with GP you can post anything you like and he doesn't care.
  10. A few years ago I had a discussion with my then boss. At one point of the discussion, as he was trying to show his wisdom of things biblical (in his mind anyway) he said "Well of course the Bible says money is the root of all evil ", at which point I stopped him and corrected him "Actually it says 'the love of money is the root of all evil', to which he replied "Oh...... that changes things a bit......" Might be worth looking at such partial quotes?
  11. As to special music, you can very quickly tell if someone is singing for their own glory or for the Lord's. I would rather hear an imperfect voice singing for the Lord than a perfect voice singing for themselves. And whilst I understand your position, the Bible disagrees: 2 Chronicles 29 27 And Hezekiah commanded to offer the burnt offering upon the altar. And when the burnt offering began, the song of the LORD began also with the trumpets, and with the instruments ordained by David king of Israel. 28 And all the congregation worshipped, and the singers sang, and the trumpeters sounded: and all this continued until the burnt offering was finished. And note that I am not "looking back to the Law" but seeing a principle clearly displayed, nor am I trying to get you to go against your own conscience - with your background as described, you need to walk more carefully in this matter. As to congregational singing, I think it may have been around a little earlier than 1694: Psa 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Singunto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. (And verses following).
  12. It is funny - I have this discussion with people on occasion. I would MUCH prefer it cold than hot. .......BUT that is because "cold" here is not the same as cold there. By that I mean, when we in Perth think of "cold" we mean days of as low as 12C and nights that creep below zero C - but it is rare to get more than three or four of those in a row. Not snow and ice on the roads and temps constantly well below freezing. You wouldn't be liking our Summer when we have three weeks in a row where the temp is right up around 38C (100F) and a cool change means it drops to the mid 30's. But you would rather it be hot. Live with it and our minds change........ I would love to be somewhere where it snows...... (But I don't live in it all the time.) ;)
  13. Is that white stuff sand? Did the wind blow it up of the beaches? We sometimes get that here on the roads near the coastline, but it doesn't make driving dangerous...... I will have to see if I can find some pics of us driving in the sand dunes then you will see a covering of white stuff. Temp here hit 42 the other day...... celsius. :lol:
  14. Welcome back again. Good couple of return posts by the way.
  15. I wonder how much sense it would make for me to go onto a Chevy forum and constantly extol the virtues of Fords?

    I might try it and see what happens....

    But then again, that is what is commonly called "trolling" I think, so I wouldn't do that.........

    Especially since I own a Chrysler and a Toyota....... :lol:

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    2. DaveW


      I will thank you to not comment on my status again. It is not wanted nor welcome.

    3. DaveW


      I should, after all, be able to post in my own status without getting trolled by you. It is bad enough that you falsely accuse me in the general forum, let alone trolling me in my own status.


    4. Genevanpreacher


      It is posted on the main page. I didn't know this was personal area. I shall not comment again. Sorry.