DaveW

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  1. DaveW added a post in a topic: Has God cast aside Israel?   

    There is so much wrong with this post I just don't know where to start - seriously, you should just throw it out and start again with addressing ACTUAL point of the blog post - that this covenant, which is a promise by God to a particular people about a particular land is in fact an everlasting covenant which will always apply to Abraham's seed in the flesh.
     
    Curious though - a perfect example of your twisting is made plain in this - you say that Israel has all the promises but then you indicate that Israel is now the church ("grafted into Israel (added to the church)").
    If this is not a clear statement that you believe Israel has been replaced by "the church" then I don't know what is. And that makes your first post in this thread a simple lie, as you say the blog has no understanding of CT and the blog mentions that term ONLY in relation to the replacement of Israel
    This is a plain and obvious case of twisting terms and evading - your post above quoted shows without doubt that you believe "the church" replaces Israel.
    If you ever again state that you do not believe that, then you will be lying plain and simple.
     
    Secondly, it shows clearly that you have no idea of the Biblical church and its nature.
    So thank you for your contribution to this thread - it is useless as to the subject but it reveals the depth of your false teaching both in content and in style.
  2. DaveW added a post in a topic: How do you get the most out of the bible?   

    I have two separate regimes.
    I study according to books for preaching, and I read the current book several times before I start with notes, then read the chapters repeatedly as I begin to take notes in preparation for preaching, continuing to read the book and chapters as I progress through compiling my notes.
    I also study by subjects - this is not for preaching but for knowledge and understanding.
    I would normally do a word search in my Bible program, listing every verse that mentions the word,  and then adding appropriate associated words in similar fashion.
    These studies may result in a message, but this is not done with that in mind.
    Of these, the former is done with regularity in order to formulate a preaching series, and the latter is done ad hoc as a subject comes to my attention.
    Aside from these two study based regimes I also have a plain reading program where I simply read the books in order. I found I needed this as a simple reading time. I have no intent to gain from this reading, although of course I do. But this is not reading with a particular purpose - it is gentle "let the Lord work on my heart" reading. Some days I "get little out of it" but other days the Lord uses the reading. Other days I initially get little, but the Lord brings it to my mind later for some reason and blesses me with it.
    We can get so wrapped up in dedicated study that we forget to allow time and space for the Lord to bless us personally through His Word.
    That's me anyway.......
  3. DaveW added a post in a topic: Has God cast aside Israel?   

    I'll pay that one.  
  4. DaveW added a post in a topic: Has God cast aside Israel?   

    If this is not relevant to you, why bother to comment?
    And the point of the post is that God has not cast Israel aside - covenant theology is mentioned but not the main point.
    Either ignore it as irrelevant to you, or address the ACTUAL point, rather than smokescreen and try to sidetrack the ACTUAL subject.
    Personally, I think your irrelevant post should be deleted, but I will not ask that of the mods, primarily because it shows your tactics.
  5. DaveW added a post in a topic: Has God cast aside Israel?   

    This is on a blog site that I know of......I have permission to post it here. Has God cast aside Israel?There is a whole raft of people out that that have been taught that Christians replace Israel as God’s chosen people. Those who teach this do so primarily so that they can apply the rules and laws pressed upon Israel onto Christians, and so that their teachers can take the authority and position of priests. Pastors are not priests (well at least not any more than any other saved person is a priest), but that is for another time.This teaching, which takes several different forms and names, but which is called usually “replacement theology” or sometimes “covenant theology” seeks to divorce Israel from the Lord and have the Lord remarry another bride, Christianity. They usually talk about “the church” replacing Israel, but that is an erroneous understanding of the church.The easiest way to see whether or not this idea is true is to see if the promises given to Israel are transferable to another. With that in mind, let’s look at the first of the promises made to the nation of Israel, before they wreLet’s set a precedent:Gen_9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.The “law of first mention” (which is not actually a law by the way) indicates that the first mention of something sets the primary meaning, and unless the context indicates otherwise, this primary meaning is the standard.In Genesis 9:16 we have the first mention of an “everlasting covenant”.I think we all understand that this particular everlasting covenant is not dependent upon this sinful and sin affected world in any way.If it were, then we would have had at least one judgement flood since that time.So, with the understanding that an everlasting covenant is indeed everlasting – otherwise it is not an everlasting covenant (Is that too simple a concept?), let’s look at another everlasting covenant.Gen 17:2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.Gen 17:3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,Gen 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.Gen 17:6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.Gen 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.Gen 17:9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.Gen 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.Gen 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.Gen 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.Gen 17:13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.Gen 17:14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. OK then, here we have an everlasting covenant that is given to Abram and to his children (thy seed after thee).The sign of this covenant on the side of the people was circumcision.Note however that as this is an everlasting covenant to Abram and to his seed after him, that the covenant is made to this group of people – IF AN INDIVIDUAL person refuses to be circumcised, then he has no part of the covenant.That does not break the covenant for all those people but for the individual only.Note also that there is NO OTHER CONDITION placed upon the people subject to this covenant.Note also that this everlasting covenant is to a specific people and for a specific LAND.This can not be an everlasting covenant if the Lord then takes it away from this particular group of people and transfers it to any other group of people, and in any case the removal of this covenant can only be upon individuals and only if they refuse to be circumcised.This brings up two points:Do the Jews still circumcise?If the answer to that is “Yes”, then the covenant has not been taken from them, and still applies. It will always apply to the nation in any case, as the removal was only possible for individuals – hence it can be removed from an individual and still remain an EVERLASTING covenant. Even with circumcision, can this covenant be transferred to another people?The Bible does not talk about this covenant being transferable. The possibility is never even mentioned. And if it was, there is still no provision in the making of the covenant that it can be taken away from the original subjects of the covenant.The claim that this promise was taken from them because of disobedience is CLEARLY UNBIBLICAL. Only one form of disobedience was relevant to this covenant, and that only applied on an individual level, not a national level.The land is the physical land that they were standing on, and it was promised under an EVERLASTING COVENANT to the actual physical seed of Abram.To somehow make it apply in a spiritual sense to Christians today is an outrageous abuse of Scripture and an attempt to deceive by false teaching. This should put to rest any idea that God has fully and finally forsaken His chosen nation. The concept of an Everlasting Covenant is certain an irrefutable, and it applies clearly to the Nation of Israel. To remove it from them is to break God’s Promise. There is of course more to it that just this one covenant, but God has not, can not, and will not remove this covenant from the nation of Israel.
  6. DaveW added a post in a topic: I have Missed you all   

    Welcome back!
  7. DaveW added an answer to a question: Determinism   

    Hmmm....
     
    I wonder if it is not limiting God to take this view.
    The Bible says "In the beginning God......" indicating that God was in existence when time began.
    If God is not subject to time, but exists independently of time, then there is no need to restrict the possibilities to only a single time line or only a multiple timeline.
    Although it is beyond our understanding as time limited creatures, it is easily possible that there is only one time line but God, who is independent from time, can see the entirety of that timeline.
  8. DaveW added a post in a topic: Comment On Current Debate   

    No he hasn't  - this is the exact crux of the matter which you are trying desperately to avoid.
    To provide exact quotes would be quote just about every debate post, which is impractical.
  9. DaveW added a post in a topic: Witnessing to Mormon missionaries   

    First - as you no doubt know,  they will try to keep moving the subject around so you can't tie them down and discuss a particular point for long. In this they introduce side issues and distractions to allow them to avoid hard questions.
    Second - baptism is a place you can spend time with them. They have a faulty view of baptism (that it saves basically) and knowing where to take them can make the gears turn in their head.
    They normally don't return after a good baptism discussion (they are told not to in their debriefing) so No, I  haven't seen anyone saved from it. But you do see them thinking hard.
  10. DaveW added a post in a topic: Vehicular Prayer Request   

    Prayed.
    Yep, I am a would be Ford freak - love em, but never owned one.
    I have however owned several FIAT's, so I know about car trouble.  
    And like you I am in need on the car front.
    The old Landcruiser we have is running fine now, but we have only one car, and we really need another.
    A friend of my father's has a Chrysler Neon but is leaving the country in a few weeks and will need to sell it, so we are talking to him about it.
    It is a 1997 model and has a few neon issues, but he doesn't want much for it, and a small 5 seater is perfect for us.
    We just need to find the money.
    And put up with the jokes - the  neon was never a success here in the first place.  
  11. DaveW added a post in a topic: Soulwinning Teens and Young people   

    And I've seen men take titles of honour to themselves as well - like "Reverend" which, while we are talking biblical terms, should only be applied to God.
    That seems to me like a very prideful thing to do. And an unbiblical thing to do as well.
  12. DaveW added a post in a topic: Soulwinning Teens and Young people   

    Would you include lying in that bolded description?
    Be careful how you answer, as certain things in this and other threads may have a bearing on you..........
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  14. DaveW added a post in a topic: Soulwinning Teens and Young people   

    You can deny it all you like but that only adds lying to your repertoire.
  15. DaveW added a post in a topic: Soulwinning Teens and Young people   

    You do not follow all the Bible as you have shown by your doctrine, and you have already on at least two occasions criticised bible terms, calling them ridiculous or such terms.
    I have not personally attacked you - I have pointed out a few points about your character and teaching.
    I also advised you that this board is anti-calvinistic, and although a moderator told you to stop promoting it you continue to do so.
    If you don't like these things, then I guess you are out of luck,  because I and others will continue to point out your error and false teaching.