Salyan

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  1. I just wanted to let you know that I am a member of and attend GraceLife Church here in Edmonton. It is a Reformed Baptist Church. I hope that is ok.GraceLife Church of Edmonton

  2. Hello From Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

    Welcome! Nice to have a fellow Albertan visit.
  3. Amen Kirk.

    I know it wasn't what you had in mind. The problem is that the issue of abuse never seems to be raised when things like that are taught, leaving women to think that, as you said above, they've got to 'just be better and it'll fix everything.' (Also, you see how abuse could become viewed as the woman's fault, because she supposedly isn't submissive/meek/godly enough? That's damaging.) A sociopathic, abusive man is not going to stop because his wife is quietly submitting to abuse - he will escalate. Telling women otherwise is very, very dangerous. I think that is the best solution too. I guess I was viewing the act of leaving as ceasing to submit, in a sense. Since odds are the husband wouldn't like it and would try to forbid it, she is likely to need to defy his wishes in order to get herself and any children safely out.
  4. Whats for Supper...

    Food.
  5. Brother Cloud & RSS Feed

    Well, that's just my sense of the result of his teachings. Like I said, there's nothing I can put a finger on... but the fruit is rotting. Anyways, that's my opinion, and worth what you paid for it!
  6. Brother Cloud & RSS Feed

    I didn't say teaching repentance in general is wrong - cause you're right! It's part of salvation! - just that David Cloud's teaching on it is problematic. Um... let's see if I can explain this clearly. The reason I used that particular wording is that there's nothing cut and dried to point to - his teachings aren't wrong, per se, just problematic, and the problems I see have arisen primarily out of experience and observation. You see, a number of years ago, I was reading through his article against lordship salvation (which itself is a twisted view of repentance). In that article, he was teaching against lordship salvation - yet somehow the way he presented repentance came across to me in a very confusing manner. Because of that article, I began questioning my own salvation. I was very young when I was saved - I'm not actually sure when exactly I did get saved. (Before you ask, yes, I have made sure of salvation as an adult and yes, I know I am saved. I still believe that I did get saved when I was quite young, but God has not seen fit to let me know exactly when that was yet!) The crux of the questioning centered around repentance - did I repent enough? did I repent properly? All that confusion came out of that article - which, confusingly enough, was supposed to be teaching against the very kind of twisted ideas on repentance that it produced. Because repentance is not us ceasing to sin. It is not even promising not to sin. It is simply the change of mind/attitude/worldview that must occur when a sinner realizes that his sin is not okay, that it is separating him from God and deserving of hell, and that he needs and desires Christ's salvation, and turns to Christ for that salvation. Yes, it has the sense of turning from sin, but it is not the actual cessation of sin - for how can a sinner cease to sin? It is not committing to stop sinning in the future (although we know that as a believer, the Holy Spirit will help us to sin less as we walk by faith), for that is the heresy commonly termed 'lordship salvation', and is really a works salvation ("If I do this, stop doing this, I will be saved") The last few years we had a schism develop in our church over the definition of repentance. Our pastor taught repentance as described above (only probably more clearly than I've described it), but a group developed that added... something... to it. (I actually avoided discussing it in detail with them, as it was during that time that I realized I needed to know what I believed in this area regardless of other's teachings. So I avoided talking to any people about it until I could thoroughly study it out in the Scriptures for myself.) It was like salvation couldn't be simple for them. Repentance needed to be the putting away of all known sin - a great beast of a hurdle that must be crossed before someone could simply trust Christ for salvation. This group caused much division before finally leaving the church. And they were all the staunchest David Cloud supporters in the congregation; they used his materials religiously. After my own experience with the confusion about repentance that his articles caused in my life, I can't help thinking that the connection between David Cloud's writings and the twisted ideas of repentance that group developed cannot be a coincidence. So there you have it. I cannot unilaterally say that Cloud's writings on repentance are wrong, because I don't know of any spot that I can put my finger on and identify categorically false doctrine. But they are problematic, because something about them has caused confusion and division in my own life and my church.
  7. Amen Kirk.

    Our culture does emphasis independence, which does make it a lot harder to learn to submit. It doesn't help that nowadays delayed marriage often means that some of us girls have to be independent and support ourselves, cause, well, no one else is around to do so! However, women are strong, and can do almost anything a man can. (Notice I said almost! And could, not should.) That's not a character flaw - that's how God made us. Submission does not mean that we should pretend to be weak-kneed idiots, silent-film-style, but somehow learning to submit while still acknowledging and using the strengths God gave us. FWIW, when men unconsciously (or consciously) portray the attitude that women are inherently inferior, or shouldn't be strong, or are somehow just 'less' than men, it really does rankle and make it hard to submit. Because that attitude is just plain wrong. It helps us best when we are acknowledged as equal parties - because, Biblically, that's what we are. Galatians 3:28
  8. Amen Kirk.

    I have a problem with the large text as it stands, with no additional qualifications. I think that our Christian culture, in the effort to teach submission, sometimes forgets that actual abuse does exist, and a wife 'doing what she should' is not going to be able to change a man who is consciously, purposely out to hurt and abuse his family. Yes, individuals in a marriage are to complete their part in it regardless of how the other person is completing theirs, but if the husband is actively and continuously abusing their spouse, there comes a point at which the wife must, for her own safety and the safety of any children, stop allowing the husband to do so - in that sense, she must stop submitting. Because submitting to abuse is not what God designed the marriage roles for.
  9. Brother Cloud & RSS Feed

    Not that I've heard of in moderator discussion, at least. Personally, I wouldn't be against discontinuing it. Bro. Cloud is spot on in a lot of areas, but his teachings about repentance are problematic and his attitude is getting more and more arrogant. I really feel that I can't direct people to his resources anymore lest they be turned off the topic by his attitude.
  10. Brother Cloud & RSS Feed

    I think Bro. Matt's been pretty busy lately; he doesn't seem to have had much time to spend on OB lately. Unfortunately he's probably the only one that can check on the RSS feeds.
  11. Whats for Supper...

    I've been making deep-fried bananas for snacks the last couple of weeks. They're basically bananas and pancake batter... can't be unhealthy, right?
  12. Words that give me a nervous jerkdown...

    IDK, LOL
  13. Do you care to elaborate, Swath? I'm not sure what Calvary Chapel's theology is.
  14. Victory Baptist Church

    Victory Baptist Church is independent: we are not affiliated with any denomination or convention. We do fellowship and cooperate with other churches of like faith and order. We are fundamental – holding to and defending the historic foundational truths of the Christian faith. We use only the King James Bible (AV 1611) and sing the traditional songs and hymns of the faith. Furthermore, we are Baptist – believing and practicing the historic and Biblical distinctives of the Baptists. We are non-Calvinist in our theology.
  15. She Said Yes!

    That is exciting, 2BLJ. Congratulations!