Whoa there --- Alan was asked by a moderator to rein it in. He acquiesced. That does NOT leave the floor open for you to pummel. If you want to prove that you have more maturity than a 7 year old girl then you will ALSO tone it down!
Even with Ananias and Sapphira you find Peter making it clear that their property was THEIRS -- they didn't have to sell it, if they sold it they didn't have to give it all. He said in Acts 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. This statement to Ananias has to be considered before the one to Sapphira of Act 5:8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. They apparently stated that they would give (x) amount and didn't. Sort of like when @ a meeting when preacher say they (and/or the church) will give (x) amount to (name the cause) and the harsh reality being 50% or less shows up. How many churches would be looking for pastors if the Lord killed off the liars?
I don't have time to listen due to having to go to work (won't be back for 15 hours) but I heard the first 17 minutes. In that time, he classified the RCC as the church married to the state (not exact wording but not misrepresenting his statement either), said most Christians don't hold to grace alone for salvation but then placed water baptism in the requirement for "stage one" of salvation while stating it's not "a work" (yet "receiving Christ" he classified as a work).
II Samuel 18-19 (although I recommend reading chapters 13 through 20) Also, if you download e-sword (it's free) you can do a search by single word, combination of words or exact phrases to find passages you are looking for.
(Yes, I'm aware of swordsearcher and blue letter bible but are not as familiar with their use)
Okay, let's try this ONE LAST TIME. You want to fellowship, discuss, etc? Start in the intro area and give your testimony of salvation. I think there is probably a discussion on this that's not locked (if you want to comment on it [after reading it] and can't find it, ask and someone can probably find it for you). You want to come right out of the blocks with "setting everyone straight", your stay is extremely limited in time. Got it?
Is this in retaliation to a pre-wrath position? Nope, it will be the consequences of your approach and attitude if you persist. BTW, FWIW -- one of our mods is pre-wrath (be sure to mention that if you get banned and decide to tirade elsewhere about your treatment here.)
First post? I have a GREAT idea for your second post. Go to 'Forums' - under the 'Welcome To OnlineBaptist' banner find 'Introduce Yourself'. Start a Howdy thread, tell something about yourself such as what makes you think you're going to Heaven, when (and how) you believe you "became" a "Christian" (or, if you're not, why not?).
Yes WWMS, praying. Mike, you mentioned it being the first loss of close family. Don't count it strange if sometime after you think you've adjusted to the loss (be that months or years) you find yourself missing them again as if it was something new. It's even been known to happen at odd times to folks who have seen enough death to appear to be numb to it.
Another reason I don't believe Mt 18 requires the pastor to be one of these witnesses (notice I said didn't require him as one as opposed to a prohibition from him being one) is that it would eliminate a check and balance in the church. What I'm referring to is a situation where the person in the wrong is the pastor himself, the same Mt 18 process applies to him which couldn't be done if you HAD TO HAVE the pastor as one of the witnesses. Then there's the issue of not having a pastor at the time of an issue that won't wait. They had that problem here shortly before they called me. They had to put a man out at a time when there was not a pastor here and no indication as to when there would be one.
Ooh, can I try? James_1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. So, if you seek to meet the needs of the fatherless and widows you have religion, if you seek to keep yourself unspotted from the world you are nuts and should be institutionalized, if you do this more than an occasional, haphazard occurrence and are mindful not to inconvenience them (2 AM) then you are organized.
Hummn, try again. If your assembly of believers has a pastor and deacon with duties outlined (like in the Bible) then you are organized, if you give it a name you are institutionalized.
Well, I recon someone else may have to try. I don't seem to be doing so good. Hey, just having a sarcastic moment, it will pass.