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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to DaveW in I have often wondered where this was ....   
    OK first test....
    This was us this morning:
     

    This is us this afternoon:
    Can I suggest that a small spray is enough at first.... start off gently - not like I did - a big spray all around the building and this is the result - and people still coming in even though we have finished the morning service!

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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to Alan in Missionaries   
    One of the greatest joys that I remember shortly after I got saved was visiting with missionaries in various countries in South East Asia during the Vietnam War. It was a blessing in visiting the works that God gave them. The Lord gave me the honour of seeing dedicated, and sacrificial, men of God, their wives, and their ministries. A special missionary in my heart is Brother Earl Beegle. Brother Beegle was a missionary to the U.S. GI's on Taiwan. Brother Earl Beegle, helped a lot of young men gain a strong love for the scriptures, soul-winning (both Chinese and American),  and HOLY living. Brother Beegle is in heaven now rejoicing in the presence of the Lord Jesus. I love missionaries. I love supporting missionaries. I love being around missionaries.
    As far as I am concerned, the command of the Lord Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20 is the marching order of the Captain of our Salvation until He calls us home. A New Testament church is a missions minded church.
     
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to DaveW in Missionaries   
    My church has been blessed lately with visits from missionaries that we support.
    Where we are, it is unusual for people to stop by - Perth is not really on the way anywhere, so you really have to be going TO Perth. And that is Expensive!
    As a result we don't get visits from missionaries very often.
    So far this year - yes 2018 - we have had two missionaries able to spend time with us.
    What a blessing it is to be able to look after these people!!!!
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from BroMatt in Superbowl Church Services - I'm NOT a fan   
    The "worship team" must have quite the dilemma.
    I mean, think about it:
    If I turn the screen off at halftime, how do I know when to stop the service?
    If I leave the screen on with the sound off, will folks be distracted by the halftime show?
    If I leave the screen on AND the sound on, do I have conflicting songs from the "praise band" and halftime marching band?
    If I turn the screen off, will people be watching the halftime show on their personal devices?
    If I allot time for bathroom and drink breaks at the beginning and end of the service, how much time do I have without missing 3rd Qtr kick-off?
    If I skip the service, these people could be at home.
    If I skip the game, these people may very well be at home.
     
    I think I need a raise, will someone make such a motion?
     
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from BroMatt in Superbowl Church Services - I'm NOT a fan   
    The "worship team" must have quite the dilemma.
    I mean, think about it:
    If I turn the screen off at halftime, how do I know when to stop the service?
    If I leave the screen on with the sound off, will folks be distracted by the halftime show?
    If I leave the screen on AND the sound on, do I have conflicting songs from the "praise band" and halftime marching band?
    If I turn the screen off, will people be watching the halftime show on their personal devices?
    If I allot time for bathroom and drink breaks at the beginning and end of the service, how much time do I have without missing 3rd Qtr kick-off?
    If I skip the service, these people could be at home.
    If I skip the game, these people may very well be at home.
     
    I think I need a raise, will someone make such a motion?
     
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to weary warrior in Is the KJVO "movement" dying?   
    I do believe that the KJO "movement" is dying, but I'm OK with that. The KJV was around centuries before there was ever a "movement", and will be here long after the movement is over. A movement is spearheaded by men following men. And what men lead other men into, they can lead them out of. I suspect that when we get to heaven, God's opinion of the shadow cast by some of the IFB "greats" will not be quite as high as their own opinion of themselves. John the Baptist said "He must increase, but I must decrease". I've watched these men do nothing but increase for decades, until they crashed one-by-one, ruining their testimonies, as well as the testimony of their "movement". Some 100 -odd years of Icarus flying too close too the sun on wings held together by the wax of personality. It melted. Now we're falling from the sky.
    We have spent decades sending our best and brightest to these centralized "institutions of higher learning" established and run by egomaniacs and carnal showmen, and failed to do our duty as a local church and train up our own, as commanded by II Timothy 2:2. So we now have a full 2 generations of "pastors" in this country who are the ignorant, carnal product of our own lazy, irresponsibility.
    The answer? The few real, godly, veteran pastors that are left must start taking their own young preachers under their own wing, and lead them at home by example in weeping, working, loving, studying, preaching, praying and living right. Pastoring is about nights on our knees, not neckties around our necks. It's about working hard on sermons, not waxing eloquent on social ills. It's sacrifice, not salaries. Humility instead of haughtiness. Building faith, not getting fat.
    We call ourselves "Christian". "Followers of Christ". Well, Christ was poor, humble, loving and forgiving while still preaching hard truth. He was hard working and invested in his disciples on a 24-hour-a-day, personal, sacrificial basis. We, the IFB "movement" left following Christ and began following men who named Christ, but followed themselves. 
    I'm 50 years old. I was born to an IFB preacher, and raised in it my whole life. 3 of my uncles were IFB preachers. My dad graduated under DR Tom Malone at Northwestern in 1972. I was ordained in 1998 as an IFB preacher, and have preached in IFB churches across the US and in a number of foreign countries. I am heartsick at the condition of the church today as a whole. We have to stop doing what got us in this mess in the first place, and start accepting our responsibility to replace ourselves, (Matthew 28:18-20, II Timothy 2:2 etc.), while making sure daily we are even worth replacing.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from (Omega) in Major changes   
    Please pray for us.
    Selling or giving away practically everything (amazing how much 2 frugal people accumulate in 15 years after losing almost all in a hurricane and tornado). Giving "heirlooms" and such "family possessions" to my kids / grandkids.
    Looking for small motorhome for temp housing while on deputation for $6000 or less. (Target date for being on the field 31Dec19).
    Technologically challenged couple trying to put together presentation, etc. for deputation.
    Cracking down on seeking proficiency in Spanish for two old codgers.
    We are going on a "survey / fact-finding" trip 25Dec17-12Jan18. 
    We are going to Nicaragua (missionary) probably beginning ministry in / near Jinotega or Boaco. The Lord has already provided me with a couple of national contacts (a paralegal who is familiar with Nicaragua visas and a Nicaraguan Independent Baptist pastor) and a gringo missionary in Matagalpa. The national pastor should be able to make me aware of existing solid Baptist churches that might be in an area that most gringos wouldn't know was there because of them being the result of the ministry of a Nica church instead of a US missionary. That should help avoid an unwitting waste of time and effort in an "already covered" area.
     
    If someone knows of some churches which have an annual missions conference that might be worth my while, please let me know. I've always stayed in my little corner, minding my own business and busy with the ministry the Lord had me in. As a result, most the people and contacts I knew are in Glory now. I know no one, no one knows me (which can be a blessing or a frustration).
     
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Major changes   
    So far we have had some interesting adventures and misadventures in Matagalpa. Have been overcharged a couple of times (gringo tax). Made a couple of good contacts in town including a national pastor (Ivis Calindres of Calvary Baptist, Matagalpa) who may be able to help us get our feet on the ground when we move here (they have been instrumental in establishing six churches in the country). Our sending church will be Old Paths Baptist Church in Ruidoso, N.M. (Pastor Joshua de los Santos) and they will be helping our linguistic studies as we seek to raise support. The owner of the house we are staying in is keeping our feet to the fire by forcing us to use Spanish ---- which is good.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from DaveW in Major changes   
    A couple of days ago the propane ( for the stove ) ran out in the midst of fried chicken and biscuit cooking, while washing dishes the water quit ( if the city works on the system, they don't give a head's up ) and we had a 7 hour power shortage. Our host's son says, "No gas, no water, no electricity --- Welcome to Nicaragua!"
    Due to the holiday, weather ( all clothes are hung outside to dry )and power outage we were in the same outfit for 3 days. Oh, we have 5 days worth of clothes here and this was 2 separate clothing runs ---- at the laundromat. You drop the clothes off, you can't use the equipment. The sink here is too small to be practical for washing and the is no such thing as a bathtub, it's a shower --- most Nicaraguans don't have hot water unless they boil it.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from swathdiver in Major changes   
    There's no postal delivery here, the local city post office usually doesn't receive your mail (especially packages), and Amazon, Fed - Ex, and UPS don't come here. This is in reference to the whole country.
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to Pastorj in Is the KJVO "movement" dying?   
    swathdriver - I did not intend to argue about this with you, but this is unfortunately the mentality that has gotten our IFB churches to where they are today. The Holy Spirit would never lead any Christian to a church where there is no preaching,. The vast majority of Christians are not being led by the Holy Spirit, they are being led by their emotions and entertainment value. They go to a church and leave happy so that must mean the Holy Spirit is leading them there. Christians should go to church to be edified, reproved and rebuked by the Word of God. If the Word of God is not preached, all you did was get entertained.
    My gifts and influence will not change the ways of a "yeller or story teller". I will not refer to them as preachers as they do not "Preach".
    People need to hold the Pastor to a Biblical level and mandate that he "Preaches". It's a sad state of America that we are missing this in our churches.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from DaveW in Problems with Gospel tracts   
    Different tools and/or approaches affect different people in different ways.
    I know a man who was given a tract on Halloween and stuck it in his coat pocket. A month later (after his daughter died) he found it (while looking for a cigarette). He went to the church named on the tract and two services later got saved. One man, backslidden after a nasty church split, got right after finding a tract in a public restroom. Another man found a tract while cleaning a bathroom, read it and got saved. For my f-i-l it took a personal letter from a co-worker, pieces of witness from my wife and I, and the witness of a two former Marines ---- over the course of 34 years. My wife grew up knowing Jesus died, was buried and rose again for redemption from sin, but never knew she could be reconciled with God NOW (she was raised RC). There are some places where it is considered extremely rude (to the point of being offensive) to begin a conversation with a stranger on the street, places where door knocking is impractical to impossible, places where a mailing ministry is impossible (there are neither building numbers nor mail service in all of Nicaragua, there's only 15 named roads in the whole country). Some people need to handled roughly and some gently.
    I could go on, but, we need discernment more than methods.
     
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from HappyChristian in Whats for Supper...   
    Well, it's breakfast instead of supper but: gallo pinto, fried plantain, scrambled eggs with onion and pablanos, curds.
    We're headed for San Ramon to investigate another area of a potential base for ministry and to visit our host's sister's coffee and dairy farm.
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Helping the needy in local churches   
    Hmmm. They will have to get rid of me somehow before this is permitted.  I would fight it "tooth and nail."
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from DaveW in Is the KJVO "movement" dying?   
     
     
    Understand that I'm Southern born and Southern bred --- and when I die I'll be Southern dead!! BUT, far too many Southern IB preachers are cotton candy  preachers -- all fluff, no substance. Southern folk (as a whole) like it that way, unfortunately. Most campmeetings will have messages that the other preachers can shout about. Am I against shouting? Not when it's real. Does shouting make the service more (or less) real? No. Is "putting on the dog" carnal? Yep! There used to be a good campmeeting in Boomer, N.C. but, alas, it is no more.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Major changes   
    Today being New Year's Day, everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) is closed. Even the two supermarkets that are owned by Wal-Mart (La Colonia and Pali), so I'll wait till tomorrow to buy more food. I walk about a mile, place my backpack in a locker, shop, pay, retrieve the backpack, place purchased items therein, walk back, repeat in about three days. I will also stop at the mercado campesino (farmer's market) on the trip (it's about 1/4 mile off path). Such is shopping in this city of 120,000 people.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Major changes   
    So far we have had some interesting adventures and misadventures in Matagalpa. Have been overcharged a couple of times (gringo tax). Made a couple of good contacts in town including a national pastor (Ivis Calindres of Calvary Baptist, Matagalpa) who may be able to help us get our feet on the ground when we move here (they have been instrumental in establishing six churches in the country). Our sending church will be Old Paths Baptist Church in Ruidoso, N.M. (Pastor Joshua de los Santos) and they will be helping our linguistic studies as we seek to raise support. The owner of the house we are staying in is keeping our feet to the fire by forcing us to use Spanish ---- which is good.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Whats for Supper...   
    My wife and the family we're staying with are teaching each other different things in the kitchen. They have taught her how to make gallo pinto, she taught true Southern fried chicken. She's learning how to make tortillas from scratch, Monday she will teach them to make biscuits from scratch.
    This is a VERY Catholic family, please pray we have an open door for effective witness in spite of the language difficulty.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from DaveW in Is the KJVO "movement" dying?   
     
     
    Understand that I'm Southern born and Southern bred --- and when I die I'll be Southern dead!! BUT, far too many Southern IB preachers are cotton candy  preachers -- all fluff, no substance. Southern folk (as a whole) like it that way, unfortunately. Most campmeetings will have messages that the other preachers can shout about. Am I against shouting? Not when it's real. Does shouting make the service more (or less) real? No. Is "putting on the dog" carnal? Yep! There used to be a good campmeeting in Boomer, N.C. but, alas, it is no more.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Whats for Supper...   
    My wife and the family we're staying with are teaching each other different things in the kitchen. They have taught her how to make gallo pinto, she taught true Southern fried chicken. She's learning how to make tortillas from scratch, Monday she will teach them to make biscuits from scratch.
    This is a VERY Catholic family, please pray we have an open door for effective witness in spite of the language difficulty.
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to Pastorj in Cutting Children off   
    I would encourage you to seek counsel of your Pastor. It is hard when your children behave like this, but it is important that we keep ourselves right with God and not allow bitterness to take control.
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    OLD fashioned preacher reacted to Pastorj in Cutting Children off   
    This is tough, but I would agree to cut them off with the understanding that you explain to them why. That you love and forgive them. That when they repent, your home will be opened back up to them.
    Understand that Repentance is not just an apology. There has to be action and that would include restoration, unless you choose to forgive the debt of the thefts - Which I would only do if they truly repent. Pray daily for them and also search yourself for unconfessed sin. You may need to repent also (Don't know the circumstances). I would highly recommend Biblical counseling with your pastor.
    Hope that helps.
    PastorJ
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Major changes   
    So far we have had some interesting adventures and misadventures in Matagalpa. Have been overcharged a couple of times (gringo tax). Made a couple of good contacts in town including a national pastor (Ivis Calindres of Calvary Baptist, Matagalpa) who may be able to help us get our feet on the ground when we move here (they have been instrumental in establishing six churches in the country). Our sending church will be Old Paths Baptist Church in Ruidoso, N.M. (Pastor Joshua de los Santos) and they will be helping our linguistic studies as we seek to raise support. The owner of the house we are staying in is keeping our feet to the fire by forcing us to use Spanish ---- which is good.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Major changes   
    So far we have had some interesting adventures and misadventures in Matagalpa. Have been overcharged a couple of times (gringo tax). Made a couple of good contacts in town including a national pastor (Ivis Calindres of Calvary Baptist, Matagalpa) who may be able to help us get our feet on the ground when we move here (they have been instrumental in establishing six churches in the country). Our sending church will be Old Paths Baptist Church in Ruidoso, N.M. (Pastor Joshua de los Santos) and they will be helping our linguistic studies as we seek to raise support. The owner of the house we are staying in is keeping our feet to the fire by forcing us to use Spanish ---- which is good.
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    OLD fashioned preacher got a reaction from swathdiver in Major changes   
    Though I've never met Bro. Dayton personally, I'm quite familiar with him. He originally went to Costa Rica to learn Spanish, one year later went to Managua. One of my national pastor contacts (Her. Ramon Gonzalez Sequeria, Pastor of Iglesia Bautista Renacer since 1974) is a product of Bro. Dayton's ministry. Between 26 known mission boards in the U.S. (there's no way to count the number of missionaries not through boards) there are only 12 missionaries in Nicaragua (6 are BIMI). There are only 188 known IB churches in the country (in comparison there are over 600 in NC and over 800 in TX) and some of them (such as the one in Jinotega) have become Charismatic. 
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