BioMember of FIEC churches since 1957 - the year of my conversion & baptism.
Married to Ann.
FIEC is the UK equivalent of IFB, with a doctrinal basis that insists onfundamentals, but allows divergence on other matters.
Heb. 12:12-17 Where did Esau go wrong? Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. He had a deceiver for a brother, who was so covetous that he demanded the birthright before giving food, & despite misgivings, lied & supplanted his brother to receive a stolen blessing. When they meet up again, he graciously forgives Jacob, & offers assistance & protection. Yet Jacob gets the blessings.
Formatting options are severely limited - No colour - essential when answering a post within a quote to separate quote from reply No indent - useful when quoting Scripture to separate Scripture from comments No photo option No preview - I use the preview for long replies, as the reply then scrolls keeping the formatting in view. Now the formatting goes way off the page It would be useful to be able to upload audio files, such as sermons - the 0.11 MB limit allows a ONE minute sermon - I couldn't upload a .W AV file with 2 verses of a hymn. Just testing text - Gen. 1:1
The vineyard parable Mat. 21:33-41 concludes: 40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. If Jesus is actually referring his yet future coming for resurrection & judgement then apparently those who recognised the parable was spoken against them escaped being "miserably destroyed," the vineyard was never taken from them, and never given to another nation to present fruit to the Lord of the vineyard. They also escaped Moses' warning, confirmed by Peter: Deut. 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Acts 3: 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Note: When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Jesus gave a very explicit warning which was understood by the chief priests as applying to them. But Steve says he was referring to his second coming, & that AD 70 was "batting practice" whatever that means. It's not a term in my KJV nor my concordance. Thus his prophecy against chief priests & Pharisees is yet to be fulfilled, & Jesus spoke presumptuously. The scoffers of Peter's letter were justified in their scoffing. No. There is a sense in which Jesus did come in AD 70 to fulfill his prophecies against "this generation" led by the chief priests & Pharisees, & to raise up the church as a "holy nation" bearing fruit for the Lord. That coming did not preclude his future coming for resurrection & judgment. His presence at the dedication of tabernacle & temple was apparent by overshadowing clouds. He led the people by pillar of cloud & fire. Why is it hard to believe that his presence at the destruction was real but veiled by clouds?
Heb. 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. 4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Expect trouble - aka tribulation - in this life, and realise that our Lord is disciplining us. Jesus told us so: John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. Paul affirmed this: Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. We are not to expect peace & riches in this life. The LORD warned Israel through Moses not to rest content in the promised land, & so forget the LORD who had led them there. We have the godly example of the faithful believers in Heb. 11, who persisted in following their LORD through much tribulation. I suspect that most of us in the UK & USA are living in relative peace, & not suffering any serious tribulation. Does that mean we are specially blessed? Not according to Heb. 12:8 onwards. We need to recognise our trouble for what they really are. It may be the direct result of sin & disobedience, to lead us to fresh repentance & returning to our Lord & Saviour. But our troubles may be the direct result of our faithful service arousing hostility from the ungodly - as our Lord experienced. It's easy to love a congregation that supports its Pastor in gifts & prayers, when when it is a hostile, even violent reaction, do we love our enemies, as our Lord taught? And are we lovingly supporting our suffering brothers & sisters by prayer & gifts, AND lovingly praying for those who are evidently enemies of the Gospel? Lost sinners, who do not realise they are fighting against God.
Mat. 24 Mark 13. & Luke 21 All begin with a prophecy of the destruction, and the disciples' questions. Jesus answers them, and gives warning signs as to when to flee the city. Those warning signs, & the action advised do not relate to the second coming for resurrection and judgment. There is a clear end to that part of his prophecy - this generation. Believers heeding those signs fled from Jerusalem according to Jesus' warning, lest they suffer in those days of vengeance. Now read Mat. 24:34-44 Jesus is now speaking of the passing away of heaven and earth at a totally unknown time. Yes, Jesus will come again for final judgment, but the ONLY actions for us in readiness for that coming is to be serving him faithfully, watching and praying. We cannot flee from the wrath of God; why should we, when we are safer in Christ than those in the ark? The ONLY safe place for the wicked is repentance, turning to Christ for salvation. The warnings in the first part of the chapter do not apply to us, except in general, though the encouragements do. The instructions in the final part are on going until Jesus does return. If "this generation" is some future generation, possibly ours, how do we know? EVERYONE who has asserted that the end was coming on their generation has been shown to be a false prophet. Now our new Bible Scholar says a generation is 100 years. He will be dead & answering to God before he is proved wrong. Now I will make a prophecy - many people will continue to make false predictions about the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, but one day he will come - and surprise them. Mat. 24:44
Over on Trail of Blood, Sam is disagreeing with me on "Calvinism"
Sam was thrown of the same KJ forum who excluded us. He said they told him they didn't exclude anone from their site. At about the same time, sam was made a moderator on TOB.