I'm going to think about this a little over the weekend because I think its an important point. Many of us know that the merchants of earth are (or include if you think better) preachers and the like making money off God - ie and they.. sold the souls of men. The bible says what you freely were given, freely give. How can anyone claim to charge for it? And if God didn't give it to you, why are you charging for it - because its fraud.
Freely you have received, freely give - Matthew 10. And this is how Jesus sent the apostles out. Where's the tithe collection there? Actually, the workman is worth his wages, and God will provide. That may be because someone cheerful provides for you as God directs them, or it may be something God provides more direct than that - or it may be nothing at all if you are a poor workman - but there is definately no tithing a priest here.
Matthew 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 20And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
If you are charging for your gifts, this isn't how worship was conducted in the church of the New Testament. They all gave of their gifts and talents freely. Imagine if the prophets, for instance, said we want a collection. And the teachers said give me. And those with helps said only for some silver.
And not one of those gifts God charged you for.
Back in the old days, many people had churches on their farm, and during the week they farmed, and during the weekend they, freely, preached. I'm not
saying churches should never give anything to anyone, but a lot of the problems with the lukewarm church is money, and man made things revolving around
merchandising men. When I am in a church where the minister makes 70k, and is preaching a works based witnessing to his congregation instead of witnessing the Holy Bible, I tremble. And that, friend, is my current church. And least you say I should move, I don't find a lot of churches that innocent. It is the same all over, and I won't hop from one babylonian church to another, be it calling for tithes, making sacrements out of baptism or the Lord's supper, or any other of the usual man's authority over God's authority. I'm preparing to witness. I won't put my gifts where God doesn't want it.
If you are reading Revelation as overcoming by doing right, you are reading it badly - God showed me this awhile ago, and has been reminding me of it recently because I am preparing myself to witness, and its great when you see it. Jesus says be careful how you hear. Revelation condemns again and again the works of man - or working your way to heaven. It is when you keep Jesus's works to the end that you are blessed - ie its by grace, not works, lest any man boast.
Who overcomes the world? 1 Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
You overcome the world by being saved and washed in the blood of the Lamb - Jesus Christ saves us.
God's harvest is a harvest of souls, not a harvest of money. The parable of the sower is about the kingdom of God and sowing the word of God. The bible also says you can not worship both God and mammon. I know that even from gospel songs. Our bible gives a lot of warning about messing with money as opposed to the gospel.
My experience is God has not blessed my giving whenever I have put it under a law because the law is cursed. I also believe God has been showing me specifically not to be under any type of babylonian captivity.
Some people already know and have taken God's word, and some people are scoffing, but the truth is just what it is.
God loves a cheeful giver, and that is the gospel. Anyone that wants to put themselves or me under bondage of men for their
own private gain, church made politics and witchcraft, I avoid. That particular verse along with some others was given to
me by brothers who loved me many years ago, and its from the Lord who loved us completely:
2 Corinthians 9:7
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
God sometimes leds me to give less - as in the church is being mislead, don't give. I think God also doesn't direct me to make an offering to a particular place as He hasn't been directing me to give exactly 10% - which are both types of laws, and the "tithers" have been making a law about how much and where both from OT law.
I'm going to emphasize the KJB in my booklet in a section on it. The other bible versions on a direct attack on faith. The perserved Word of God is as much part of the gospel story as the garden of eden - and quite rightfully part of prophecy too.
If we were just teaching words of men, maybe it wouldn't matter - but that is the attack. Even the unsaved know that the wicked mess around with the words of the constitution. We are bad witnesses to the truth if we don't witness God's word, and not as our own and changeable.
Uhm, ok lol. However, they were rich in heavenly treasure because they gave 100% of what they had.
So Katagrl, since giving more then 10% is important, how about 100%?
I've got a verse for you that could be applied here:
24And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free . 27Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
I don't think they are talking about missionaries here. It says for the saints not missionaries. Other verses appear
to show that the church took care of its own back then. FYI when you give your decision power over money to another
church, you aren't acting like a local community of believers only. In any case, the missionaries weren't from
that church or being used through that church. They were giving it whole heartedly to Jerusalem to be used however.
I'm pointing out that here they were not collecting it to be used through that local church, but they sent it to Jerusalem. This is an example of the local church doctrine not being what was going on. This was at the time of the apostles, and the churches weren't divided. Even so, its percular for a local church to be collecting for the saints at another - unless it was a fund for all the saints being re-distributed through Jerusalem. Its a verse that bears studying more. I know I will later.