Pastor Scott Markle

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    My name is Scott Markle, and I have served the Lord my God and Savior in pastoral ministry since 1992. I have served as the pastor of Melvin Baptist Church, a small country church in the Thumb area of Michigan, since 1998. I have been joyfully married to my beloved wife Kerry since 1993; and we have been blessed of the Lord with two sons, Padraic and Westley.

    My life-verses are Philippians 3:8 and John 15:4-5. "Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ." "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine: no more can ye except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches. He that abideth in, and I in him, the same bringeth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing." The burden of my life is to pursue "the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord" and to walk daily abiding in Christ, and Christ in me.

    Concerning all my ministry, it is the burden of my heart to exalt, not myself, but the name of Jesus Christ and the truth of God's Word. It is my burden that Christ must increase, while I must decrease. Therefore, I maintain the policy that my name, as the author of a book, must remain smaller, while the phrase, "For the Glory of the Lord," must stand larger above it. Thus far the Lord our God has graciously allowed me to self-publish three books and a three booklets, as well as to produce a line of Scripture memory cards, which all can be purchased at my website: www.shepherdingtheflock.com. In addition, I maintain a monthly Bible study blog at that website.

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  1. For those who may be interested, I am aware that I have a number of "more intensive" forum discussions unto which I have contributed just "hanging" at present. I am writing this "note" in order to inform those who may be looking for my next contribution in one of them - I am NOT done, but just very busy at present with ministry, family, and holiday responsibilities. For me, contributing to these "more intensive" discussions requires more than just a few, quick lines. Please be patient with me. Thank you, Pastor Scott Markle
  2. Weekly Sermon Introduction: A. The Conflict 1. The publicans and sinners come Luke 15:1 – “Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.” 2. The Pharisees and scribes complain Luke 15:2 – “And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.” B. The Message 1. Rejoicing when a lost sheep is found Luke 15:3-6 – “And he spake this parable unto them, saying, What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.” 2. Rejoicing when a lost coin is found Luke 15:8-9 – “Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the piece which I had lost.” 3. Rejoicing when a lost son is returned repentant Luke 15:22-24 – “But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: and bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.” 4. Rejoicing by God the Father when a sinner repents Luke 15:7 – “I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” Luke 15:10 – “Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.” I. The Other Brother Did NOT Agree with the Father. Luke 15:24-28a – “Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant. And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. And he was angry . . . .” II. The Other Brother Became Angry with the Father. Luke 15:28-30 – “And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him. And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: but as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.” III. The Other Brother Broke Fellowship with the Father. Luke 15:28 – “And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.” IV. The Other Brother Cared Only about Himself. Luke 15:29-30 – “And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: but as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.” V. The Other Brother Continued in Bitterness against the Father. Luke 15:31-32 – “And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.” Note: The parable ends without any indication of repentance on the part of “the other brother.” In fact, both brothers departed from fellowship with their father. The younger son broke fellowship through a sinful lifestyle, whereas the older son broke fellowship through a sinful attitude. Furthermore, the older son engaged in a broken fellowship while never leaving the father’s house, and while having continued in outward, “religious” service and obedience to the father. Posted in Weekly Sermon, Luke, ​Delight of the Lord, Sin of Selfishness, Rebellion against God Please share this post with others: View the full article
  3. Well, I certainly do NOT know what was given in the "private message" response. On the other hand, I have noted Brother Pittman's two attempts at asking his "controversial" question. I am aware that this question originated out of contention with Brother Alan's thread discussion. I do NOT know what the position of the moderators might be concerning whether this question should be discussed. With all of that preface, in answer to Brother Pittman's question -- Although I STRONGLY hold to the pretribulational, premillennial rapture of the saints, I myself do NOT believe that the opening verses of Revelation 4 are speaking concerning that matter.
  4. Yet what about "those" passages of Scripture? (Part 1) Concerning Romans 7:8-9. Romans 7:8-9 – “But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.” Often the concluding statement of Romans 7:8 and the continuing statement of Romans 7:9 are presented as Biblical evidence that babies are NOT born already dead spiritually “in trespasses and sins” and are NOT held spiritually accountable for a beginning portion of their lives. In relating a testimony concerning his own past, the apostle Paul revealed in Romans 7:9 that there was first a time in his life when he “was alive . . . once;” and that there was sometime afterward a time when he “died.” Now, it seems quite clear from the context that the apostle was speaking about the matters of spiritual life and death. As such, the apostle was revealing that first he was spiritually alive, and that sometime afterward he spiritually died. Furthermore, the apostle revealed that his differing conditions of spiritual life and of spiritual death were directly related to his differing relationship with God’s law. First, he reveals that there was a time wherein he was “without the law once.” Even so, he reveals that when he was “without the law,” “sin was dead” in his life; and he himself “was alive” spiritually. Second, he reveals that there was a time “when the commandment” of God’s law “came” into his life. Even so, he reveals that when this happened, “sin revived” in his life; and he himself “died” spiritually. Thus we find that this passage speaks, not only about the matters of spiritual life and death, but also about spiritual accountability under God’s law and how that accountability relates to the matters of spiritual life and death. Now, it is often argued from this that there is a two-fold sequence of spiritual conditions which is revealed from this passage, as follows: 1. First, a time period of life “without the law,” when sin is “dead” in an individual’s life, and when the individual is spiritually “alive.” 2. Afterward, a time period of life “when the commandment” of the law comes, such that sin revives in and individual’s life, and such that the individual spiritually dies. As such, it is further argued from this that the first spiritual condition must be at the very beginning of an individual’s life, during the time of babyhood and early childhood. In addition, It is argued that the phrase “without the law” means that during this early time period of an individual’s life, God does not hold the individual accountable unto the commands of His law. Finally, it is argued that the phrase “sin was dead” means that during this early time period, the individual has no corruption of sin in nature, and that therefore during this early time period, the individual is not spiritually dead “in trespasses and sins.” ------------------------------------------------------- Yet I would contend that the foundational viewpoint that Romans 7:8-9 reveals a two-fold sequence of spiritual conditions is incorrect. Rather, I would contend, not that the passage reveals a two-fold sequences of spiritual conditions, but that it reveals THREE-fold sequence of spiritual conditions. Indeed, I would contend that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint misses a precise characteristic of the grammar in the closing portion of Romans 7:9. In the closing portion of Romans 7:9, the apostle did NOT testify simply that “when the commandment” of God’s law “came,” sin came alive, and that then he “died” spiritually. Rather, in the closing portion of Romans 7:9, the apostle testified precisely that “when the commandment” of God’s law “came” “sin REVIVED,” and that then he “died” spiritually. Now, herein the word “revived” precisely means “to come unto life AGAIN.” As such, the word “revived” precisely indicates that whatever was “revived” (in this case, “sin”) had proceeded through a THREE-fold process. First, it had been alive at least once BEFORE. Second, it had entered a condition of deadness. Third, it had been REvived, so as to be alive AGAIN. Even so, since God the Holy Spirit very specifically inspired the usage of the word “revived” in the closing portion of Romans 7:9, we should understand that there is a THREE-fold sequence of spiritual conditions, as follow: 1. First, a time period of life wherein sin IS ALIVE in an individual’s life. (As per the precise meaning of the Holy Spirit inspired word “revive.”) 2. Then, a time period of life “without the law,” when sin is “dead” in an individual’s life, and when the individual is spiritually “alive.” (As per the teaching of Romans 7:8b-9a.) 2. Afterward, a time period of life “when the commandment” of the law comes, such that sin revives in and individual’s life, and such that the individual spiritually dies. (As per the teaching of Romans 7:9b.) Furthermore, since Romans 7:8-9 reveals that sin’s condition of spiritual life or death in an individual’s life is directly connected to the force of the law in that individual’s life, we might also understand the following THREE-fold sequence concerning the law: 1. First, a time period of life wherein the individual is under the law. 2. Then, a time period of life wherein the individual is “without the law.” 3. Afterward, a time period of life “when the commandment” of the law comes again into the individual’s life. Now, this “three-fold sequence” viewpoint relieves any contradiction with other Biblical teaching that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint seems to create. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with 2 Corinthians 5:14, which teaches that ALL were spiritually dead, and which teaches that Christ died for ALL because of this very fact. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Psalm 51:5, which seems to teach that babies are conceived and “shapen” in a spiritual condition of sin and iniquity. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Isaiah 53:6, Romans 3:12, Romans 3:23; and Romans 5:12, which teach that we ALL have gone astray from God, and have gone our own selfish way, and have gone out of the way of righteousness, and have sinned against God, and have come short of God’s glorious standard of holiness. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Psalm 58:3, which teaches that babies go spiritually astray from God “as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Romans 3:9 and Galatians 3:22, which teach that we ALL were bound under sin’s mastery. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Romans 3:19, which teaches that we ALL were spiritually guilty before God. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Ephesians 2:3, which teaches that we ALL were “by nature the children of wrath,” having God’s wrath already abiding upon us. It relieves the contradiction that the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint creates with Romans 5:18, which teaches that we ALL were under God’s judgment unto condemnation. Yet this “three-fold sequence” viewpoint does raise a question. In the “two-fold sequence” viewpoint, it is concluded that the time period “without the law” is the time period of babyhood and early childhood, because in that viewpoint it is the first time period and because in that viewpoint it appears to be the only logical possibility. However, if we consider the “three-fold sequence” viewpoint, we might ask – When then is the time period wherein an individual is “without the law”? I would contend that it is best to answer this question directly through the immediate context of Romans 7. So then, is there any other portion of Romans 7 that speaks about a time wherein an individual is “without” (or, apart from) God’s law? Indeed, Romans 7:4-6 states the following, “Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.” Herein verse 4 speaks about believers becoming “dead to the law by the body of Christ,” and verse 6 speaks about believers being “delivered from the law.” So then, in accord with the immediate context of Romans 7 itself, I would contend that the time period wherein an individual is “without the law” is that time wherein an individual is “become dead to the law” and is thereby “delivered from the law” through faith in Christ for eternal salvation. Yet this raises another question – What then did the apostle mean when he testified concerning himself as a believer in the closing portion of Romans 7:9 that “when the commandment came, sin revived,” and he “died”? After an individual is eternally saved through faith in Christ, do any commandments of God have any place in that believer’s life? Is a believer responsible to obey any of the commandments of God’s law? Can a believer experience the reviving of sin in his or her life? Can a believer experience spiritual deadness in his or her life? Can a believer ever return unto the spiritual condition of being completely dead unto God “in trespasses and sins”? The answer to these questions is revealed through the teaching of Romans 7:10 – 8:39.
  5. Indeed. 2 Corinthians 5:14 teaches us that Christ died for ALL specifically because ALL were spiritually dead. From this teaching we may conclude the following: 1. Christ only died for those who were spiritually dead. 2. If some (that is -- babies) were not spiritually dead, then Christ did not die for them. (Note: For those who hold that babies are not yet spiritually dead, consistency of doctrine would compel them to hold unto a form of "limited atonement" - although NOT for the same reasons as the Calvinists.) Furthermore, Galatians 3:22 teaches us that Scripture has concluded ALL to be "under sin" specifically so that the promise of eternal salvation through faith in Christ might be given "to them that believe." However, if some (that is -- babies) are not actually "under sin," then God's entire plan of eternal salvation through faith in Christ is "askew." Finally, if some (that is -- babies) are not spiritually dead in sins, and do not commit sin, or are not accountable for sin, and are not guilty of condemnation, then they would have NO NEED for the redemption of Christ's sacrifice, the cleansing of Christ's blood, the forgiveness of God's grace, the imputation of Christ's righteousness, the regeneration of the Holy Spirit, the propitiation of God's wrath, or the justification of God's just judgment. Indeed, then they would have no sin from which to be saved, and would have access unto the glory of heaven through their own merit of "innocence" or "righteousness."
  6. Weekly Sermon Introduction: A. Departing from the Father 1. To pursue the way of self Luke 15:11-12 – “And he said, A certain man had two sons: And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.” 2. To pursue the way of the world Luke 15:13 – “And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.” 3. To pursue the way of sin Luke 15:13 – “And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.” B. Reaping What Is Sown Hebrews 11:25 – “Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season.” Galatians 6:7-8 – “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.” James 1:15 – “Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” 1. No pleasure Luke 15:14 – “And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.” 2. No provision Luke 15:15-16 – “And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.” 3. No help Luke 15:15-16 – “And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.” I. He Came to Himself – Realizing that it was better to be WITH the father. Luke 15:17 – “And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father’s have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!” II. He Recognized His Sin. A. I have sinned. Luke 15:18 – “I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee.” B. I am not worthy. Luke 15:19 – “And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.” C. I will serve. Luke 15:19 – “And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.” III. He Returned to the Father. – Draw night to God with a broken heart, and He will draw night to you. Luke 15;20 – “And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.” James 4:8-9 – “Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.” IV. He Confessed His Sin. A. No excusing himself Luke 15:21 – “And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.” B. No trivializing his sin Luke 15:21 – “And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.” C. No shifting of blame ​V. He Was Restored by the Father. A. Restored to peace Luke 15:22 – “But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet.” B. Restored to blessing Luke 15:23 – “And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry.” C. Restored to fellowship Luke 15:24 – “For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.” ​Posted in Weekly Sermon, Luke, Repentance of Sin, Forgiveness of Sin, Spiritual Revival Please share this post with others: View the full article
  7. With this posting we begin to enter more deeply into the “thick” of the controversy. When the doctrine of universal sinfulness concerning mankind is engaged, and is thereby applied unto babies, a common defense is asserted. This defense is generally delivered to the extent that since a baby does not have the ability to know or understand right from wrong, a baby is not held accountable by and before God for any right or wrong. The foundational premise of this defense is that – lack of knowledge equals lack of accountability. Indeed, there are passages of Scripture which reveal that babies and young children are without the knowledge of right from wrong. In Jonah 4:11 the Lord God gave the report unto Jonah, saying, “And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?” Also in Deuteronomy 1:39 Moses reminded the children of Israel concerning the Lord’s declaration at Kadesh Barnea, saying, “Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.” However, does God’s Word teach that lack of knowledge concerning God’s standard of right and wrong is equivalent to lack of accountability before God for unrighteousness? Does God’s Word teach us that the Lord our God does not hold an individual accountable of unrighteousness if that individual was ignorant of His standard in the matter? Let us consider the following passages: Leviticus 4:27 – “And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty.” Luke 12:47-48 – “And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” Romans 2:12 – “For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.” ______________________________ Now, the defense that babies in particular are not held accountable by and before God can be argued from three different perspectives, as follows: 1. Babies are NOT actually conceived and born with a sinful nature; and having not yet committed any act of sin, there is nothing for which God has a reason to hold them accountable. Yet this position appears to stand in contradiction to the following: Psalm 51:5 – “Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.” Romans 5:19 – “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.” 2 Corinthians 5:14 – “For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead.” Ephesians 2:1 – “And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.” Romans 3:9 – “What then? Are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin.” Galatians 3:22 – “But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.” Jeremiah 17:9 – “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” 2. Babies ARE conceived and born with a sinful nature; yet they are not held accountable by and before God, because they have not yet committed a sinful act of their own. Yet this position appears to stand in contradiction to the following: Psalm 58:3 – “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” Romans 3:10 – “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.” Ecclesiastes 7:20 – “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” Isaiah 53:6 – “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.” Romans 3:12-18 – “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:23 – “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” Ephesians 2:3 – “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” (Note: It can be argued from a comparison of Romans 9:11 & Psalm 58:3 that babies do NOT actually commit their first act of unrighteousness until birth. Concerning the twins Esau and Jacob, while they were yet in the womb, Romans 9:11 states, “For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.” On the other hand, Psalm 58:3 states concerning babies at the very moment of birth, “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” 3. Babies ARE conceived and born with a sin nature, and DO commit sin “as soon as they be born;” yet they are not held accountable by and before God for that sin because they do not yet have the ability to understand the difference between right and wrong. Yet this position appears to stand in contradiction to the following: Romans 3:19 – “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.” Galatians 3:10 – “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.” James 2:10 – “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” Ephesians 2:3 – “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” Romans 5:18 – “Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”
  8. 1. What does it mean to "love in the truth"? The preposition “in” which begins the phrase “in the truth” carries three primary categories of meaning. It can mean “in the location of,” or “in the spirit of,” or “in the context of.” Now, the idea of location is not a characteristic of the context in 2 John 1:1-3. Therefore, we would understand that the phrase, “whom I love in the truth,” in verse 1 either means “in the spirit of truthfulness” or “in the context of the truth.” If the phrase, “whom I love in the truth,” means “in the spirit of truthfulness,” then the apostle John was thereby indicating that he loved “the elect lady” and her children with sincerity, that is – in the spirit of a sincere disposition with his whole heart, “without dissimulation” (see Romans 12:9), “with a pure heart fervently” (see 1 Peter 1:22). Indeed, this would be the usage and meaning of the phrase “in truth” within the warning and instruction of 1 John 3:18 – “My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed [in action] and in truth.” However, throughout the remaining context of 2 John, the word “truth” is not used concerning a spirit of sincerity, but is used concerning the sound doctrine of God’s Word. Even so, I would contend that the word “truth” in verse 1 is intended to carry this same meaning of usage. As such, in the phrase, “whom I love in the truth,” the apostle John was thereby indicating that he loved “the elect lady” and her children “in the context of the truth,” that is – in the context of the sound doctrine from God’s Word. Yet how does an individual love in the context of the truth, in the context of the sound doctrine from God’s Word? There is a two-fold direction in the answer. First, we can love in the context of the truth by loving in accord with definition and standard that God’s Word sets for godly love. Selfish, ungodly love is love in falsehood because it is contrary to the sound doctrine of God’s Word concerning true, Biblical love. However, Spirit-filled, godly love is love in the truth because it is in union with the sound doctrine of God’s Word concerning true, Biblical love. Second, we can love in the context of the truth by pursuing a loving fellowship with those who walk after the sound doctrine of God’s Word. It is loving another and pursuing a loving fellowship with another specifically because that other individual has received the truth of the gospel and is thereby a fellow brother or sister in God’s eternal family. (See 1 Peter 1:22) Furthermore, it is loving another and pursuing a loving fellowship with another specifically because that other individual receives, obeys, and patterns his or her life after the truth of God’s Word. (See 1 John 4:6-7)
  9. I myself believe in a preaching, teaching, beseeching evangelism in the power of the Holy Spirit, which is accompanied with a godly, "good works," "fruit of the Spirit" lifestyle through the filling of the Holy Spirit that is becoming to the gospel.
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  11. Brother Jim, Answering that question is involved in the primary objective for this thread. Therefore, as I proceed through the thread discussion, my answer will be delivered. However, I am compelled to acknowledge even now that there will come a point at which I will enter into the realm of some "human conjecture." When I get to that point, I will make it clear that I have entered that realm. Yet also when I get to that point, I will NOT be able to provide ANY direct Biblical support for my "conjectures." I believe that these "conjectures" will be founded upon specific Biblical teaching; however, the "conjectures" themselves will not possess specific Biblical declaration.
  12. In answer to the above questions: A. Do you believe, from the time of conception, "original sin" is upon all and that this sin is already fully active in the spirit soul and body? Not just in/on the flesh? I believe that those points which I presented two postings above concerning the "literal" condition of sinfulness and the "legal" position of sinfulness, as well as the Biblical verses which I presented in the posting immediately above concerning the universal sinfulness of mankind, are applicable unto every human individual from the moment of conception, and that they are applicable unto the human spirit and soul from that moment. (Note: There are some nuances of the points and verses from my above postings which could be argued as applying from the moment of birth, rather than from the moment of conception. However, I believe that the primary, spiritual issues are applicable from the moment of conception.) B. If so, Are all from conception completely dead in body soul and spirit? I believe that all are completely dead in spirit from conception, being completely separated from the spiritual life and fellowship of God, and thus that all are completely under the mastery and darkness of sin in soul from conception. (Note: As such, I do believe in a form of "total" depravity; however, I do not define its application in the same manner as Calvinistic doctrine. I believe that any human individual who is dead in spirit possesses NO ability in and of himself or herself to come unto Christ through repentance and faith, but that such an individual requires a "pre-work" of God's grace in order to acquire that ability. With this it is likely that a Calvinist would agree. However, Calvinistic doctrine would define that "pre-work" of God's grace as God's giving of spiritual life in order that the lost sinner's soul might no longer be under spiritual bondage to a spiritually dead spirit and in order that the lost sinner might now possess the ability to repent and believe. I utterly reject this doctrine of "spiritual life before faith" as a false doctrine and a false gospel. Rather, I believe in accord with John 6:44, 65 that the "pre-work" of God's grace, whereby a lost sinner acquires the ability to repent and believe, is through the drawing work of God the Father through the convicting work of His Holy Spirit and His Holy Word. Furthermore, I believe that the lost sinner possesses the ability to repent and believe ONLY at those time periods wherein God is performing His drawing work, such that the ability to repent and believe originates from without the lost sinner, not from within the lost sinner.) C(1). If so, Are all conceived people, dying before they have knowledge of their condition, in Hell? No. However, I do NOT believe that their lack of knowledge is the deciding factor in this matter. C(2). If not who gets a pass and why? The answer to this question will require me to complete the fullness of my presentation throughout the thread discussion. To those who may be interested, I shall present a few general thoughts concerning my positions on this subject: 1. I myself cannot accept any doctrinal viewpoint concerning the accountability of babies which contradicts the universal statements of God's Word concerning the sinfulness of mankind. (Note: As such, if you intend to argue against my position, you would be required to begin with these universal statements of God's Word, either demonstrating that they are not really universal in application or demonstrating that they are not actually spiritual in application.) 2. I myself believe that all babies do indeed have access unto heaven, but not simply because they are somehow spiritually "safe" or spiritually "unaccountable." 3. I do not believe that the Lord our God allows "lack of knowledge" to be an excuse for sin or to be a reason not to hold an individual accountable for sin. 4. I do not believe that any human individual is conceived in a spiritual condition or spiritual position of spiritual "innocence" before God, for I believe that such a doctrinal viewpoint does indeed contradict the universal statements of God's Word concerning the sinfulness of mankind. 5. I myself am compelled also to consider the universal statements of God's Word concerning the God-given opportunity for eternal salvation from sinfulness. 6. I myself am compelled also to consider that the only God-provided way for eternal salvation from sinfulness is through faith in Christ. Now, in a previous posting I presented the following: Even so, I would place my general statements #1, #3, #4 under the doctrine of human sinfulness; I would place my general statement #6 under the doctrine of God's singular plan of salvation for sinners; I would place my general statement #5 under the doctrine of God's desire for the salvation of sinners; and I would place my general statement #2 under the doctrine of eternal destiny for human babies.
  13. Luke 21:12-19 – “But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake. And it shall turn to you for a testimony. Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake. But there shall not an hair of your head perish. In your patience possess ye your souls.” (See earlier posting on Matthew 10:16-39) 1. The Certainty – But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you . . . And some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 2. The Caution – A. Beware of religion – Delivering you up to the synagogues. B. Beware of government – And into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake. C. Beware of family – And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks. D. Beware of friends – And ye shall be betrayed by . . . friends. D. Beware of all men – And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake. 3. The Course – And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 4. The Communication – Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 5. The Confidence – But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 6. The Continuance – In your patience . . . . 7. The Commitment – . . . Possess ye your souls.
  14. Biblical Verses concerning the Universal Sinfulness of Mankind The following listing of verses employ such words as “all,” “every,” and “none” in order to reveal truth that is universal concerning mankind as a whole. Even so, this raises the question whether these words “all,” “every,” and “none” actually mean “all,” “every,” and “none” in these contexts. Furthermore, in relation to the accountability of babies, this raises the question whether these words “all,” “every,” and “none” encompass the whole of mankind, including babies. 1. Being spiritually dead in trespasses and sins. 2 Corinthians 5:14 – “For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead.” 2. Being unrighteous in God’s sight. Romans 3:10 – “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.” 3. Being spiritually filthy in spirit and soul. Ecclesiastes 7:20 – “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” Isaiah 53:6 – “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.” Jeremiah 17:9 – “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Romans 3:12-18 – “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: their feet are swift to shed blood: destruction and misery are in their ways: and the way of peace have they not known: there is no fear of God before their eyes.” Romans 3:23 – “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” Romans 5:12 – “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.” Ephesians 2:3 – “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” Psalm 58:3 – “The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” 4. Being spiritually guilty before God. Romans 3:19 – “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.” Galatians 3:10 – “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.” James 2:10 – “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” 5. Being spiritually bound under sin's mastery. Romans 3:9 – “What then? Are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin.” Galatians 3:22 – “But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.” 6. Being spiritually bound under God's wrath. Ephesians 2:3 – “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” John 3:36 – “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” 7. Being spiritually separated from any fellowship with the Lord God. Romans 3:11 – “There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.” John 14:6 – “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” 8. Being spiritually condemned by the just judgment of the Lord God. Romans 5:18 – “Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.” 9. Being lost in sin and an enemy of God with no ability to deliver or defend one's self. Romans 3:20 – “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” Galatians 3:11 – “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”
  15. Actually, Brother McWhorter, it is in two sections of today's "Friday Church News Notes;" for Brother Cloud also quoted the book in the section entitled, "A Happy Home and A Devoted Wife." On the other hand, I thank you for be willing to make such a public notification. I simply pray that the book will be used of the Lord for His glory and for the edification of His people. Oh, how very much our marriages and homes need to be in accord with the pattern of God's Holy Word!!!