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Pastor Scott Markle

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  • Birthday 08/13/1971

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    Melvin, MI
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    My name is Scott Markle, and I have served the Lord my God and Savior in pastoral ministry since 1992. I have served as the pastor of Melvin Baptist Church, a small country church in the Thumb area of Michigan, since 1998. I have been joyfully married to my beloved wife Kerry since 1993; and we have been blessed of the Lord with two sons, Padraic and Westley.

    My life-verses are Philippians 3:8 and John 15:4-5. "Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ." "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine: no more can ye except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches. He that abideth in, and I in him, the same bringeth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing." The burden of my life is to pursue "the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord" and to walk daily abiding in Christ, and Christ in me.

    Concerning all my ministry, it is the burden of my heart to exalt, not myself, but the name of Jesus Christ and the truth of God's Word. It is my burden that Christ must increase, while I must decrease. Therefore, I maintain the policy that my name, as the author of a book, must remain smaller, while the phrase, "For the Glory of the Lord," must stand larger above it. Thus far the Lord our God has graciously allowed me to self-publish three books and a three booklets, as well as to produce a line of Scripture memory cards, which all can be purchased at my website: www.shepherdingtheflock.com. In addition, I maintain a monthly Bible study blog at that website.

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  1. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    According to Romans 8:3 there was something that the law "could not do." I wonder, according to the immediate context of Romans 8:1-4, if we might discern what that something was.
  2. Touch typing.

    AMEN!!!!!!
  3. Way of Life:Pushing the Edge on Dress Standards

    Although it is possible that I do not agree with Brother Cloud on the matter of pants-wear for women, I do believe that this article is a very worthy read.
  4. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    Well, this discussion has suddenly gone "all over the map." As for myself, I am happy to engage in Biblical discussions with thoroughness and depth (even when that discussion leads to intense disagreement). However, I am not interested to engage in personal infighting. Speak against me if you will (not that any are doing so in this particular discussion), and I will generally choose to ignore such and continue to focus patiently upon the Biblical or doctrinal matter itself. If others choose to defend my character (as has occurred in the past), such is appreciated. However, I generally will avoid any engagement in direct "self-defense." I would much rather engage in doctrinal defense. Even so, if and when this discussion returns more fully unto the doctrinal matter of regeneration before the crucifixion, resurrection, ascension, and outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, I will likely reengage (for I DO have much "opinion" on that matter). By the way, a great book for consideration on the matter is the Gospel of John, since one of its primary themes IS spiritual regeneration.
  5. Baptized into the Body of Christ?

    Brother "InSeasonOut," I am presenting this posting as a separate one from that above because it is not a direct response unto your comments, but is some new thoughts for consideration. I would ask you to consider the following questions and answer: 1. Question #1: According to 1 John 1:5-7 what is necessary in order to walk in spiritual fellowship with the Lord our God? Answer: We must walk in spiritual light. 2. Question #2: Is it possible for an individual who is spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins," and thus is spiritually a child of disobedience, a child of darkness, and "alienated from the life God," to walk in spiritual light? Answer: No, for such would be spiritually contradictory. 3. Question #3: Biblically, what is the only way for a sinner to cease being spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins," so as to pass from spiritual death unto spiritual life and to have the ability to walk in spiritual fellowship with the Lord our God? Answer: Spiritual regeneration. 4. Question #4: Did any among the Old Testament believers walk in spiritual fellowship with the Lord God? Answer: Many of them certainly DID. 5. Question #5: How was it possible for an Old Testament believer to walk in spiritual fellowship with the Lord God if that Old Testament believer never experienced spiritual regeneration, and thus continually remained spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins" as a continual child of darkness? Answer: I would contend that such would not have been spiritually possible at all. 6. Question #6: In fact, how was it possible for any Old Testament believer to serve the Lord God and please the Lord God if that Old Testament believer never experienced spiritual regeneration, and thus continually remained spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins" as a continual child of darkness? Answer: I would contend that such would not have been spiritually possible at all. 7. Question #7: Indeed, how was it possible for the Holy Spirit of God to come upon any Old Testament believer if that Old Testament believer never experienced spiritual regeneration, and thus continually remained spiritually "dead in trespasses and sins" as a continual child of darkness? Answer: I would contend that such would NEVER have been spiritually possible. ________________________________________________ For additional consideration -- Although the Old Testament does NOT present a thorough doctrine of regeneration, I would contend that any reference unto spiritual life and "liveliness" would be Biblical evidence of spiritual regeneration in the Old Testament. Furthermore, I would contend that any reference unto spiritual quickening and spiritual reviving would be Biblical evidence of spiritual regeneration in the Old Testament. Finally, I would contend that any reference unto some being the sons or children of God would be Biblical evidence of spiritual regeneration in the Old Testament.
  6. Baptized into the Body of Christ?

    Brother "InSeasonOut," You are welcome. Just seeking to engage the discussion with clarity and depth, even if we may disagree. Indeed, I would agree that for the New Testament believer being indwelt by the Spirit would also indicate that an individual is born again by the Spirit. This would be so because in this time of the New Testament the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit proceeds OUT OF the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. However, I would contend that the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit is a separate work of the Holy Spirit from the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit, and that these two works of the Holy Spirit are NOT to be viewed as Biblically equivalent unto one another. Even so, I believe that for the Old Testament believer the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit DID occur as a singular event wherein the Holy Spirit removed the spiritually dead spirit from that Old Testament believer and replaced it with spiritually alive spirit. However, I do NOT believe that the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit occurred for the Old Testament believer, such that the Holy Spirit performed His work of regeneration upon the spirit of the Old Testament believer, but did not then "move in" to permanently indwell that Old Testament believer. Indeed, as I have previously indicated, I believe that the permanent indwelling work of the Holy Spirit did not occur for believers until the day of Pentecost. Indeed, THIS is THE premise for your entire position -- that the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit and the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit CANNOT exist separately from one another. Therefore, I would ask you to provide some passages of the New Testament which precisely teach this premise. Yes, I am aware of our Lord Jesus Christ's teaching in John 3 that the Holy Spirit is the Person of the Godhead who engages the work of regeneration upon a believer. However, I am not aware of any reference unto the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit within John 3. Yes, I am aware that Titus 3:4-7 defines the work of regeneration as "the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost." However, I am not aware of any reference unto the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit within that context. Yes, I am aware that our Lord Jesus Christ promised the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit in John 14:15-21. However, I am not aware of any reference unto the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit in that context. In fact, I would suppose that Romans 8:1-17 is your best passage from which to attempt to demonstrate your premise. However, unless you can precisely demonstrate your premise from Scripture, I would be compelled to deny your premise. Again, everything that you propose in these two declarations is founded upon your primary premise, that is -- "To be born again the Spirit must indwell you." I would contend that this premise is NOT true. Rather, I would contend that to be born again the Holy Spirit must perform the divine work of removing your spiritually dead spirit from you and of replacing it with a spiritually alive spirit. Furthermore, I would contend that to be permanently indwelt the Holy Spirit must then move into that spiritually alive spirit as His dwelling place. However, I would contend (as I have) that these are two separate works of the Holy Spirit, that the second work proceeds out of the first work, but that the second work is not inherently necessitated by the first work, such that the first work can (and did for Old Testament believers) exist apart from the second work. On the other hand, I would certainly agree that no believer (either in the Old Testament or in the New Testament) could or can lose eternal redemption, eternal regeneration, eternal life, eternal justification, or eternal salvation. Furthermore, I agree that the filling work of the Holy Spirit could come and go for an Old Testament believer, just as I would contend that it can come and go for a New Testament believer. However, I would contend that the Old Testament believer could NOT lose the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit, since they NEVER had it at all. Your statement above that "filling by definition would, is to be inside an object" appears to indicate that you would equate the filling work of the Holy Spirit with the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit. If that is so, then you need to consider those Old Testament passages wherein the filling work of the Holy Spirit is presented in the time of the Old Testament, such as Exodus 31:3 and Exodus 35:31. Indeed, I would also agree that all three of these works occur for the New Testament believer, as follows: 1. The work of regeneration -- immediately upon faith in the Savior. 2. The work of indwelling -- immediately proceeding out of the work of regeneration. 3. The work of infilling -- immediately available for every New Testament believer, to be engaged whenever the New Testament believer submits thereto. On the other hand, I would contend that all three of these works did not occur for the Old Testament believer, as follows: 1. The work of regeneration -- yes, immediately upon faith in the Savior. 2. The work of indwelling -- no, never made available unto any Old Testament believer. 3. The work of infilling -- yes, made available unto chosen Old Testament believers for specific ministries of service unto the Lord.
  7. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    Indeed, no individual sinner in any time period has ever or will ever be saved through any level of works. Indeed, no individual sinner in any time period has ever or will ever be saved through any other means than through faith. Any other claim is simply false doctrine. No individual sinner in any time period has ever or will ever be saved by debt, but only by grace. Salvation through works of any level is salvation by debt. Only salvation through faith alone is salvation by grace. The epistle to the Romans is quite clear on this matter.
  8. Baptized into the Body of Christ?

    Brother "inSeasonOut," The way that you worded your above question leaves me a bit uncertain. With your question are you viewing being "born again" and being "indwelt with the Spirit" as Biblically equivalent to one another? Or, with your question are your viewing being "born again" as a separate work of the Holy Spirit from being "indwelt with the Spirit"? In my presentation above I have very distinctly communicated that being "born again" by the Holy Spirit is NOT the same work of the Holy Spirit as being "indwelt with the Spirit." As such, I DO believe that the Holy Spirit's work of regeneration (birthing again) did indeed occur for Old Testament believers. However, I most certainly do NOT believe that the Holy Spirit's work of indwelling occurred until the day of Pentecost, for New Testament believers only. Indeed, I believe that the Holy Spirit's work of indwelling is a specific part of the New Covenant (Testament), and NOT a part of the Old Covenant (Testament) at all. I would contend that these Old Testament passage concerning the Holy Spirit's work of filling, which I would contend is a separate matter from either His work of regeneration or His work of indwelling. Three DIFFERENT works of the Holy Spirit as such - 1. The work of regeneration. 2. The work of indwelling. 3. The work of infilling.
  9. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    Indeed, I also have no need to "fuss" about these matters. However, I am compelled to acknowledge that I DO have a need, even a driving need, to handle Scripture precisely according to the specific grammar and context of a passage.
  10. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    Such a viewpoint does not handle the past tense within the context of John 1:11-13. John 1:11 specifically reveals the time period about which the context is speaking -- It was the time period when "He came unto His own." This was not "well after the resurrection, ascension, and day of Pentecost." Rather, it was specifically during our Lord Jesus Christ's earthly ministry, BEFORE the crucifixion, resurrection, ascension, and day of Pentecost. Grammatically, the conjunction "but" at the beginning of John 1:12 specifically connects the statement of John 1:12 to the statement of John 1:11. Thus within the immediate context of John 1:11-13, John 1:12 is speaking about the SAME time period as John 1:11, that is -- when our Lord Jesus Christ "came unto His own" during His earthly ministry unto His own (the Jews). Indeed, "as many as" those Jews "received Him" through faith, "to them gave He power to become the sons of God" in that they "were born . . . of God." Yet Revelation 13:8 reveals unto us that from God's own perspective our Lord Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God who was "slain from the foundation of the world." Thus from God's perspective His sacrificial death and shed blood could provide eternal redemption, eternal regeneration, eternal justification, eternal salvation unto all "from the foundation of the world." Yet Romans 4:25 also teaches us that eternal forgiveness of sins is directly connected unto our Lord Jesus Christ's death and that eternal justification before God (which you acknowledge as occurring for Old Testament believers) is directly connected unto our Lord Jesus Christ's resurrection. So then, I would challenge your logic -- If Christ had not yet resurrected from the dead in the historical events of time, how were Old Testament believers eternally justified before God? Your presentation of this viewpoint appears to assume that I agree with this viewpoint. I most certainly do NOT agree with the "two-compartment" viewpoint of "hell" during the time of the Old Testament. Therefore, this viewpoint provides no weight to your argument with me. No where in my above posting did I make any reference whatsoever at all unto the existence of the church during the time of the Old Testament. In fact, no where in my above posting did I make any reference whatsoever unto the church at all. Rather, in my above posting I dealt ONLY with the two matters of being regenerated by the Holy Spirit and of being baptized (indwelt) with the Holy Spirit. In fact, I do NOT believe that the church of our Lord Jesus Christ existed during the time of the Old Testament. However, I DO believe that Old Testament believers were INDEED regenerated by the Holy Spirit. The doctrinal issue upon which I set my focus in my above posting was not the doctrine of the church, but was the doctrine of regeneration. I wonder -- How could Lot have had a "righteous soul" (as per 1 Peter 2:8) if he was not a regenerated (born again) believer. From the Biblical record we can certainly conclude that he did NOT have righteous character or righteous conduct. As such, the only part of his inner man which could have been defined as "righteous" would have to have been his regenerated (thus righteous) spirit. In addition, did you know that all of the first generation of Israelites who were redeemed from Egypt in the Exodus did indeed partake of our Lord Jesus Christ spiritually? Consider the truth of 1 Corinthians 10:1-4. Within its context Ephesians 1:10 is NOT speaking concerning the time of the New Testament church. Rather, it is speaking concerning the time of the New Heaven, New Earth, and New Jerusalem, wherein every believer from every "time" (dispensation) will be gathered together in one body (as per the description of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21). That time alone can be described as "the dispensation of the fullness" of all other times (note the plural).
  11. Baptism.....

    It really depends upon how an individual views the "great commission." If the "great commission" is a church leadership commission (to the apostle's as apostle's), then baptism is commissioned unto church leadership alone. If the "great commission" is a church commission (to the apostle's as a church body), then baptism is commissioned unto the church itself. If the "great commission" is a believer's commission (to the apostle's as believers), then baptism is commissioned unto believers. So then, does the context of the "great commission" reveal whether it is a church leadership commission, a church commission, or a believer's commission? So then, does any other passage of the New Testament reveal whether the commission to evangelize is a church leadership commission, a church commission, or a believer's commission? (Yes, I have a position. No, I am not sharing it at this time.)
  12. Baptized into the Body of Christ?

    1. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit is a spiritual work of our Lord Jesus Christ wherein our Lord Jesus Christ Himself baptizes a believer within the "substance" of the Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Baptizer (not the Holy Spirit), and the Holy Spirit is the "substance" of the baptizing. 2. The baptism with the Holy Spirit first occurred in Acts 2 on the day of Pentecost. Now throughout this time of the New Testament, the baptism with the Holy Spirit occurs for each new believer at the moment of faith in Christ for eternal salvation. The baptism with the Holy Spirit is biblically equivalent to the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit within the New Testament believer. 3. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit would indeed mean that an individual is born again, since an individual must be born again by the Holy Spirit before that individual can be baptized (indwelt) with the Holy Spirit. However, being born again by the Holy Spirit and being baptized (indwelt) with the Holy Spirit are NOT the same thing. In this time of the New Testament, being baptized (indwelt) with the Holy Spirit proceeds from being born again by the Holy Spirit. However, in the time of the Old Testament, being born again by the Holy Spirit occurred apart from being baptized (indwelt) with the Holy Spirit. 4. No. Being baptized by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself with the "substance" of the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with water. Being baptized with water is accomplished physically (according to the commandment of our Lord) by mankind; whereas being baptized with the Holy Spirit is accomplished spiritually by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
  13. When the church started. Pentecost or Israel

    Ahhhh. How often the doctrine of regeneration (being born again) is misunderstood. Indeed, the Holy Spirit IS the Person of the Godhead who administers the renewing work of regeneration upon a believer. (See John 3:3-8; Titus 3:4-7) (Note: According to Titus 3:5 a believer is SAVED specifically BY "the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost." So then, if Old Testament believers were SAVED, how were they saved APART FROM "the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.") On the other hand, the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit (which occurs in an instant) upon a believer and the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit (which occurs continually) within a believer is NOT the same work of the Holy Spirit. Indeed, in this time of the New Testament the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit certainly does proceed out of the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. However, in the time of the Old Testament the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit could occur without the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit. In fact, John 1:10-13 teaches that the disciples (believers) of our Lord Jesus Christ were indeed regenerated (born again, born of God) prior to the day of Pentecost in Acts 2. The specific grammar of this passage speaks in the past tense. The specific context of this passage speaks concerning the past period wherein our Lord Jesus Christ "came unto His own" during His earthly ministry of teaching and preaching unto the Jews. Even so, in relation to this specific time period, John 1:11 indicates that most of the Jews overall did NOT receive the Lord Jesus Christ as their Messiah and Savior. However, also in relation to this specific time period, John 1:12 declares that as many individuals among them who did receive Him (in that past tense period), "to them gave he power to become the sons of God." Furthermore, John 1:13 teaches that this power to become a child of God was specifically administered upon these specific individuals in that specific time period in that they "were born [past tense] . . . of God."
  14. Last one to post in this thread wins

    This is my very FIRST posting in this thread. Am I supposed to win something?
  15. pdf, are you sure?

    Yeah, and if duct tape cannot fix it, then it would require a miracle from God.
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