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  • Birthday 08/13/1971

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    My name is Scott Markle, and I have served the Lord my God and Savior in pastoral ministry since 1992. I have served as the pastor of Melvin Baptist Church, a small country church in the Thumb area of Michigan, since 1998. I have been joyfully married to my beloved wife Kerry since 1993; and we have been blessed of the Lord with two sons, Padraic and Westley.

    My life-verses are Philippians 3:8 and John 15:4-5. "Yea, doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ." "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine: no more can ye except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches. He that abideth in, and I in him, the same bringeth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing." The burden of my life is to pursue "the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord" and to walk daily abiding in Christ, and Christ in me.

    Concerning all my ministry, it is the burden of my heart to exalt, not myself, but the name of Jesus Christ and the truth of God's Word. It is my burden that Christ must increase, while I must decrease. Therefore, I maintain the policy that my name, as the author of a book, must remain smaller, while the phrase, "For the Glory of the Lord," must stand larger above it. Thus far the Lord our God has graciously allowed me to self-publish three books and a three booklets, as well as to produce a line of Scripture memory cards, which all can be purchased at my website: www.shepherdingtheflock.com. In addition, I maintain a monthly Bible study blog at that website.

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  1. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, I do apologize. I was unable to type up the next posting this afternoon as I had hoped to do. Over the last two days, I have experienced an explosion of unexpected responsibilities.
  2. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Indeed, time is the factor at the moment. I already am formulating (in my thoughts) that next posting concerning the article. However, I have not yet had the time to write the posting itself. Maybe (???) by tomorrow afternoon - if nothing unplanned arises to drain the time (a pastor's life).
  3. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, Certainly, I will commit myself to pray for you and to seek the Lord's direction. Already, I have a thought of suggestion -- Rather than isolate yourself completely from your husband in order to be alone with God for a series of days, I would suggest that you set aside a certain number of hours each day for prayer and Bible study, then that you take an opportunity (if your husband will agree) to express unto your husband what you learned from the Lord in that alone time, as well as to pray with your husband about what you learned.
  4. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Your husband has certainly presented a truth of wisdom in this comment. Yet this truth of wisdom must be tempered somewhat with a recognition that some passages of Scripture, especially in the Old Testament Scriptures, are indeed written unto specific audiences with specific application unto those specific audiences. However, even in these cases there are spiritual principles for us to glean in application unto our own lives for both our learning and our admonition (as per the declaration of Romans 15:4 & 1 Corinthians 10:11). On the other hand, those things that are written in the New Testament concerning the disciples carry a greater weight of principle for our lives and application unto our lives. This is so because the Lord chose them to be the foundation for the New Testament church, with Himself being the Chief Cornerstone. (See Ephesians 2:19-22) As such, the disciples served in many ways as representatives for all New Testament believers. Indeed, the passage of Scripture unto which you refer above is also found in the gospel of John; and it reveals the Holy Spirit inspired purpose for the entire gospel of John. It is John 20:30-31 -- "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." Even so, we understand that the primary purpose for the gospel of John is three-fold: (1) To teach the doctrinal truth that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; (2) To teach the personal responsibility that we should believe on Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God; (3) To teach the divine promise that through faith in Christ we might have spiritual life through His name. Indeed, the gospel of John was written primarily unto the audience of the lost world, in order to communicate the gospel of Christ unto lost sinners throughout the world in any place and at any time. (Note: This is yet another reason that I do not believe that the gospel message and gospel promise of John 6:26-65 should be narrowed in any way only unto those who could physically see the Lord Jesus Christ during His earthly ministry.)
  5. Saved in 3 tenses?

    In his introductory portion, the author of the article presented the following two paragraphs: (https://edgarsreflections.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/what-did-jesus-mean-by-“i-will-lose-nothing”-in-john-639/amp/) Within these paragraphs, the author places emphasis upon the reference unto "SEEING" the Lord Jesus Christ that is found in John 6:36. The author does this in order to focus our attention upon the element of PHYSICALLY seeing the Lord Jesus Christ, in order that he may lay a foundation for the two primary points of his argument that the promise of security and the raising up at the last day are to be viewed with a PHYSICAL perspective, rather than a spiritual perspective. I myself have three points of conflict with this presentation and emphasis: In the first place -- It appears clearly to me that throughout our Lord's discussion in John 6:26-65, He intended to focus attention, not upon the physical, but upon the SPIRITUAL. According to our Lord's rebuke in John 6:26 against those who sought for Him, it was the people who had a focus upon PHYSICAL food and PHYSICAL matters. Yet the Lord Jesus Christ rebuked this focus upon the physical as a wrong focus. Then in John 6:27 the Lord Jesus Christ attempted to redirect their focus upon SPIRITUAL matters. Yet in John 6:31 the people made reference unto the miracle of manna in Moses' day, demonstrating that they were still focused wrongly upon physical food and physical matters. Thus in John 6:32-33 the Lord Jesus Christ again attempted to redirect their focus upon SPIRITUAL matters. Indeed, in John 6:35 the Lord Jesus Christ continued to emphasize the spiritual focus. Then in John 6:36 the Lord Jesus Christ again rebuked these people for having seen Him physically, but for not believing on Him spiritually. Yea, this appears to indicate that their physical focus had hindered them from making the correct spiritual decision of faith in Christ. Furthermore, from John 6:60 we learn that at the end of the Lord Jesus Christ's discussion, some of His own disciples began to murmur against His teaching that individuals must eat His flesh and drink His blood in order to receive eternal life from Him. It appears that they also had a more physical focus, and thus viewed this teaching as cannibalistic and wrong. However, in John 6:36 the Lord Jesus Christ corrected them and clearly indicated that His teaching was not from a physical perspective, but from a SPIRITUAL perspective. Therein He declared, "It is the spirit [spiritual focus] that quickeneth; the flesh [physical focus] profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit [spiritual focus], and they are life." So then, for the author of the article to direct the focus of our attention upon physical matters appears to me for him to side with the people's wrong focus upon physical matters, rather than upon our Lord's true focus upon spiritual matters. In the second place -- The emphasis of our Lord's message throughout John 6:26-65 does not at all appear to be upon the element of physically seeing him. In fact, throughout this discussion He referenced seeing Him only twice. (See John 6:36, 40) Whereas He referenced believing on Him six times. (See John 6:29, 35, 36, 40, 47, 64) Furthermore, He referenced coming unto Him six times. (See John 6:35, 37, 44, 45, 65) Finally, He referenced spiritually "partaking" (eating and drinking) of Him seven times. (See John 6:50, 51, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58) So then, it does not at all appear through this emphasis that our Lord's emphasis was upon the element of physical sight as a requirement for the promises of the discussion, but was upon the elements of spiritually coming unto Him and partaking of Him through believing on Him. Indeed, in John 20:29 our Lord Jesus Christ declared, after revealing Himself physically unto Thomas, "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." Let us then place our focus and emphasis upon that which our Lord Jesus Christ places His focus and emphasis. In the third place -- While the author of the article focuses our attention upon the reference to physically seeing the Lord Jesus Christ in John 6:36, he does not make any reference unto the reference of seeing the Lord Jesus Christ in John 6:40. This is significant specifically because of the relationship between these two references unto the element of "seeing." First, in John 6:36 we find a more negative passage, wherein the Lord Jesus Christ rebuked those individuals who had seen Him, yet did not believe on Him. Whereas, in John 6:40 we find a more positive passage, wherein the Lord Jesus Christ described an individual who both saw Him AND believed on Him. Even so, John 6:40 would be the passage which reveals the correct importance of "seeing" the Lord Jesus Christ. Second, when we consider the Greek construction of these two verses, we find that the Lord Jesus Christ employed two completely different Greek verbs for "see" in these two verses. (Now, I know that the author of the article was willing to consider the Greek construction, since he spent so much time later in the article on the Greek verb "anistemi." Therefore, I find it of significance that he neglected to mention anything about this difference in Greek verbs for "see.") So then, what IS the significance in this usage of different Greek verbs for "see"? In John 6:36 the Lord Jesus Christ employed the Greek verb εωρακατε ("eorakate"), which is the perfect, active, indicative of ὁράω ("orao"). This Greek verb is a basic Greek word for "seeing" and can carry any of the various nuances thereof. In John 6:40 the Lord Jesus Christ employed the Greek verb θεωρων ("theoron"), which is a present, active participle of θεωρέω ("theoreo"). This Greek verb is a synonym for ὁράω ("orao") and can also carry all of the various nuances of "seeing." However, when θεωρων ("theoron") is employed in the same context as ὁράω ("orao"), it generally indicates an intensification to the act of "seeing." As such, in the context of John 6:36 the usage of the Greek verb ὁράω ("orao") would indicate a basic, physical "seeing" (observation) of the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet it would not indicate anything deeper. These people had indeed observed the Lord's ministry work and miraculous power. They had sought for Him and had found Him physically. Yet they did not believe on Him, for they did not "see" Him more deeply as the Savior. On the other hand, in the context of John 6:40 the usage of the Greek verb θεωρέω ("theoreo") would indicate a deeper "seeing" of the Lord Jesus Christ, a "seeing" with definite interest and purpose, a "seeing" of spiritual recognition that He is indeed the Savior whom God the Father sent down from heaven. In this context, this is not simply a physical observation at all. Rather, in this context this is a spiritual recognition that moves an individual unto believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior. So then, the "seeing" of the believer in John 6:40 is not focused upon physical sight at all, but is focused upon spiritual recognition and understanding. As such, the attempt by the author of the article to narrow the application of John 6:37-40 unto those disciples who actually saw the Lord Jesus Christ physically during His earthly ministry is invalid. Indeed, the application of this passage is for any individual who "sees" with spiritual recognition and understanding that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Savior, and who is thereby motivated to believe on Him as personal Savior. However, the author of the article presented much more in his argument. Therefore, there is yet more for us to consider. Sister Rose, are you following this information thus far; or do you have any questions about this information?
  6. Topic Moved

    Hey, now. Nobody (and I mean, NOBODY) likes those grammar police. I mean - Who ever said that I care about grammar anyway?
  7. Topic Moved

    Thank you. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
  8. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, I recognize that this comment was not directed in response unto me. However, I wish to respond unto it nevertheless. I do understand how confusing it can be when you hold unto the authority of God's Word with conviction, and when "the other side" appears to have the stronger Biblical argument (position). Even so, I understand that your presence here is "a cry of desperation." For this very reason, I have accepted (what I believe to be) the direction of God the Holy Spirit to help you as much as I am able with patient teaching. I pray that you will stay with me throughout the process, and that you will be spiritually edified thereby.
  9. Saved in 3 tenses?

    In the article that you referenced (as presented below) . . . . . . the author of the article argued for four primary points in order to challenge the common understanding for John 6:39. These three points are as follows: 1. Those individuals whom God the Father gave unto God the Son do not include all New Testament believers, but only included the Jewish believers during Christ's public ministry. 2. God the Father's assignment unto God the Son not to lose any of these individuals does not refer unto spiritual security, but refers unto physical protection. 3. God the Son's promise to raise these individuals up at the last day does not refer unto the future resurrection of righteousness, but indicates that He would keep them physically alive until some future time in the coming years. The author began with the contextual background for the discussion of our Lord with the people through John 6:35-65. Therefore, I shall do the same. 1. In John 6:1-13 God's Word reveals the historical account concerning the feeding of the five thousand. 2. In John 6:14-15 God's Word reveals that Jesus departed alone into the mountains away from the multitudes - specifically because He perceived that due to the miracle of food, they would attempt to take Him by force in order to make Him their king. 3. In John 6:16-21 God's Word reveals that at evening the disciples traveled by ship over the sea unto Capernaum, but encountered a storn - wherein Jesus walked on the sea unto them. 4. In John 6:22-25 God's Word reveals that on the next morning when the people who had experienced the miracle of food did not find Jesus, they also took shipping unto Capernaum, specifically looking for Jesus. 5. In John 6:26 God's Word reveals that Jesus rebuked these individuals for seeking Him, not because of His miraculous power, but because they had been filled with free food, thus revealing that their motivation was focused upon physical food and physical matters. 6. In John 6:27 God's Word reveals that Jesus instructed these individuals not to labor for physical food, but to focus their attention upon the food of everlasting life that they might receive from the "Son of man." 7. In John 6:28 God's Word reveals that these individuals asked Jesus a question concerning what they might do, in order that they might "work the works [plural] of God." (Note: It is significant and worthy of notice that they used the plural word "works" in their question.) 8. In John 6:29 God's Word reveals that Jesus gave answer unto these individuals, "This is the work [singular] of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." (Note: It is worthy of notice that Jesus only set one, singular requirement before them from God -- To believe on God the Son, whom God the Father had sent unto them.) 9. In John 6:30-31 God's Word reveals that these individuals asked Jesus for a miraculous sign in order that they might believe Him, and that they made reference unto the Old Testament miracle of manna in Moses' day, indicating that they were still focused upon physical food and upon the miracle of food. 10. In John 6:32-33 God's Word reveals that Jesus gave answer unto these individuals, indicating that God, not Moses, was the authority and power in the Old Testament miracle of manna (physical food), and indicating that God the Father was now giving unto them "the true bread from heaven" (spiritual food), the Messiah Himself, who came down from heaven and who gives life unto the world. (Note: It is worthy of notice that Jesus did not simply reference the Jews in relation to this gift of life, but referenced the entire world.) This is the contextual background for the discussion in John 6:35-65. Let us take note of some thematic points: 1. Food, with a specific focus upon bread, is a theme that runs throughout this context. For this reason Jesus used the metaphor of bread (referring unto Himself as the Bread of Life) and of eating and drinking that bread throughout the discussion of John 6:35-65. 2. The people were focused upon the matter of PHYSICAL food; whereas Jesus sought to refocus their attention upon SPIRITUAL matters. 3. The particular spiritual matter upon which Jesus sought to focus their attention was to believe on Him. Sister Rose, are you following this contextual information thus far; or do you have any questions about this contextual information?
  10. Need Help with Another Thread

    I need help with another thread. I am engaged in a thread discussion with Sister "Roselove," the thread started by her entitled, "Saved in 3 Tenses?" That thread discussion began with a question that she asked in the question forum. However, I am not simply engaged in answering the original question, but am engaged in an ongoing discussion. Yet because the thread is in the question forum, postings can be moved out of order through a system of ratings. (Indeed, this has already occurred with two of the postings in the thread) I believe that this system will distort the flow of the discussion for future audiences, as well as possibly for the present discussion. Thus I make the following request -- If it is possible, can this thread discussion be moved to a forum structure that does not contain the rating system for postings? Or, if it is possible, can the rating system itself be locked out for this particular thread discussion? Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
  11. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, Having read through the article, I certainly understand why you are confused and uncertain. Thus I believe that BEFORE we move to John 15:1-6, we should examine the points of this article concerning the teaching of John 6:35-40. Would you agree?
  12. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Indeed, I wish to focus upon John 15:1-6 next, if that is acceptable. However, before we move, I wish to apply the truths that we have gleaned from John 6:35-40 unto your personal case -- Have you yourself, "Roselove," come unto God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, through faith as personal Savior? If you have, then: 1. God the Father gave you unto God the Son. 2. God the Son did not and will not cast you out. 3. God the Father has assigned God the Son not to lose you. 4. God the Son will certainly NOT fail God the Father in this assignment. 5. God the Father has assigned God the Son to give you everlasting life. 6. God the Son has indeed given you everlasting life. 7. God the Father has assigned God the Son to raise you up at the last day. 8. God the Son will certainly raise you up at the last day. Your assurance of security is founded upon and rooted in the authority, power, and faithfulness of God the Father and God the Son. Indeed, in relation to God the Son's faithfulness, your assurance of security is not only founded upon and rooted in His faithfulness unto you, but even more so is founded upon and rooted in God the Son's faithfulness unto God the Father.
  13. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Indeed, God the Father is "NOT willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance," as per 2 Peter 3:9. However, that is NOT the point of God's giving certain individuals unto God the Son, as per John 6:37. Indeed, I believe in the doctrine that all human individuals are drawn by God unto His Son as Savior. However, I would agree with you that not every one will accept Him as Savior. Many follow the broad way unto eternal destruction; whereas few follow the narrow way unto life everlasting. God's Holy Word does NOT teach universalism in relation to eternal salvation and eternal life. All are drawn, but not all come; therefore, not all shall be saved. However, John 6:37 speaks concerning those individuals who actually DO come unto Christ through faith for salvation. The order of the verse is as follows: 1. God the Father gives certain individuals (NOT all individuals) unto God the Son. 2. ALL (every single one without exception) that God the Father gives actually do come unto God the Son through faith for salvation. 3. Each and every single individual who comes unto God the Son through faith for salvation shall "in no wise be cast out" by God the Son. If we then add the truths of John 6:39-40 concerning these individuals, we would add: 4. Each and every single individual who comes unto God the Son through faith for salvation shall have everlasting life (as per verse 40). 5. Each and every single individual who comes unto God the Son through faith for salvation shall not be lost by God the Son (as per verse 39). 6. Each and every single individual who comes unto God the Son through faith for salvation shall be raised up at the last day by God the Son (as per verses 39 & 40). The great doctrinal controversy then concerns a question in relation to point #1 -- By what means does God the Father determine which certain individuals He chooses to give unto the Son? I believe that the answer to this doctrinal controversy is to be found contextually within the teaching of John 6:44-45 (as per my note in my previous posting).
  14. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, In your above paragraph, you have made reference unto various passages of Scripture, including James 2:14-26; Acts 13:43; Galatians 5:4; Hebrews 12:4-11; Hebrews 12:15-17; John 15:1-6; Matthew 25:14-30. However, before I focus my attention upon these passages individually, I wish to focus your attention upon one of the passages that (I believe) teaches the doctrine of eternal security. This passage is John 6:35-40 -- "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." In this passage we encounter four different groupings of individuals: 1. The Lord Jesus Christ, God the Son. 2. Those individuals who come unto and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. 3. Those individuals who do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. 4. God the Father, the One who sent God the Son. For the sake of our present discussion, I wish to focus out attention, not upon the activities of those who believe or upon the activities of those who do not believe, but upon the activities of God the Father and of God the Son and upon the relationship between God the Father and God the Son, as revealed in this passage. These points are as follows: 1. God the Father gives certain individuals unto the Son. 2. God the Son will "in no wise cast out" those individuals who come unto Him. 3. God the Son came down from heaven to do God the Father's will. 4. God the Father wills that of all the individuals which He hath given unto the Son, God the Son should lose nothing, no, not even a single one. 5. God the Father also wills that of all the individuals which He hath given unto the Son, God the Son should certainly raise them up in the last day. 6. God the Father also wills that unto every one of the individuals who believe on God the Son, God the Son should give them everlasting life. 7. God the Son will indeed raise up at the last day every one of those individuals who believe on Him. Now, I wish to ask of you some thought questions based upon this passage: 1. Since it is God the Father's will for God the Son to lose not even a single one of those whom the Father has given unto Him, if God the Son does actually lose even one of these individuals, would God the Son be fulfilling the will of God the Father or breaking the will of God the Father? 2. Since it is God the Father's will for God the Son to raise up at the last day (in the resurrection of righteousness) all whom the Father has given unto Him, if God the Son does not actually raise up every single one of these individuals, would God the Son be fulfilling the will of God the Father or breaking the will of God the Father? 3. If God the Son actually does in either of these matters break the will of God the Father, what would that be called spiritually? (Hint: It would be called sin against God, something that God the Son would NEVER actually do.) 4. If God the Son actually does commit a sin against God the Father, can He be the eternal Savior of any other sinner whatsoever at all? If tuno this point you have followed my flow of thought, then I would present the following truth for consideration: If God the Son loses even one, then God the Son can be the Savior of NONE. (Note for the audience as a whole: I fully recognize that John 6:35-40 is a passage of controversy in the doctrinal debate between the Calvinistic belief system and the Arminian belief system, specifically in relation to the doctrinal debate over unconditional election and irresistible grace. For the present thread discussion I was not focused upon the events that precede an individual's coming unto Christ through faith, but was focused rather upon the assignment of His will that God the Father placed upon God the Son concerning those who actually did come unto the Son through faith. However, I DO believe that the key in correctly understanding the passage in relation to the doctrinal debate over unconditional election and irresistible grace is to be found contextually through a correct understand of John 6:44-45, with a strong focus upon verse 45.)
  15. Saved in 3 tenses?

    Sister Rose, I have now read through all of the postings in your various other threads concerning the matter of eternal security. At present I am reading through the article that you referenced in another thread concerning "the tense readings of the Greek New Testament." In this posting, I wish to present some initial thoughts (which we may then consider in more detail as the discussion proceeds): 1. Concerning the matter of eternal security -- Those who hold strongly unto this doctrine (as I do) will place their primary focus upon God's authority and power to maintain a believer's eternal security. However, those who unto the doctrine of required perseverance (lest salvation be lost) will place their primary focus upon the believer's effort and power to maintain that security. In my own case, I begin with the passages concerning God's authority and power in the matter and then build upon that foundation in consideration of other passages. 2. Concerning the article about the tense readings -- Although I am only half-way through the article, I have a number of conflicts with the article already. First, I believe that the article immensely distorts the meaning of the Greek present tense, as well as somewhat distorts the meaning of the Greek aorist tense. Second, the author of the article appears to view the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration with favor. (By the way, if the author actually does/did hold that water baptism is necessary for regeneration and salvation, then he held unto a false gospel which included human works. As such, I must question the very salvation of the author, and thereby also question the ability of the author to discern Scripture correctly.) Third, the author of the article appears to view the false doctrine of purgatory with favor. Fourth, the author of the article strongly teaches the false doctrine of complete sanctification upon this earth. 3. Concerning the article about 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 -- I myself would contend that the author of the article mishandles the grammatical structure of the single sentence in these two verses. I suppose that I must now ask which of these matters you desire to consider in detail first?
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