wretched

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  1. Free Will an Illusion?

    Well I just tested this theory and my findings are "ironclad" proof that they are dead wrong. I wanted a twinkie, wrote it down on a post it note, ate it and then confirmed by looking at the post it note. Yes I did choose this twinkie just like my memory tells me I did. case dismissed
  2. a wife

    hmmm, wretched heretick. It does have a ring to it
  3. a wife

    Bishop qualifications: 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. All present tense. None are written in the past tense. None are intended by God to be thought of as lifelong quals long before a man is even saved. Had they been, God would have worded them differently. He didn't, He worded them in present tense only. IOW: a man wants the office of bishop, he must currently possess these qualifications. One marriage? Never divorced? Never widowed? Nope it doesn't say anything like that. If one wife means never divorced, it would say that. Divorce is commonly mentioned throughout the Bible so think for a minute and wonder why it is worded "husband of one wife". Nowhere else in the Bible is divorce referred to like this (ie. husband of two wives, three wives, etc.). Now in OT Soloman's case it is loosely mentioned like this and he was not "divorced" (get the coorelation?). It was common practice in those days and even today in some cultures to have multiple wives. To believe this lie (and I believe it is a lie and not just a common misinterpretation) then you would have to concede that all quals are past tense just like the wife one transcending their lost and saved lives. IE, the man could have never punched anyone, including childhood; could have never drank wine; could have never wanted something that belongs to someone else, etc... Apostles were elders of churches. They planted all of the churches in the NT and lead them while training others to lead. There is no mention of wives and marriages and children with them. If they had families, they left all that in the dust of the present world to pick up their cross and follow Him. Matter of fact, I doubt seriously that God even means that a bishop "must" be married and have children. It makes much more sense in light of the actual examples of church elders in the NT that they do not have to be. God lists it IMO because most men at the age above novice (30 years old +) were typically married with kids. 30 being the age our Lord began His earthly ministry. IOW: if you are married, it is to be to only one woman and if you have kids, they must be in subjection. Novice the key qualification in Jordan's case. Scripturally that is the only thing that DQ's him based on his personal testimony that I know of. Think about it.
  4. Has Online Baptist become Reformed?

    Just looks like one of them pop up ads at the top to me? I think any sites members go to magically appear in the pop up ad thing at the top....it is sorcery and of the devil... So, that said, you have been doing some exploring huh MC?
  5. a wife

    Ah, I see Jordan. Well, good for you then and maybe one will come along soon.
  6. a wife

    Excellent point to read and study over and should lead Jordan right to I Cor 7. I suspect the Bible teaches that this is all God wants from every single saintin relation to marriage whether first marriage or subsequent. I recommend to you Jordan that you prayerfully determine why exactly you feel you need a wife? According to God's Word it is certainlynot to better serve Him so what exactly is the need? Those already marriedhave no choice but to stay, they must honor their commitment. Andthose passages dealing with husbands and wives is directed to those people but according to God (and not men)however, if they didn't have that worldly baggage they could be totally free to pick up their cross and follow Him. This goes for both men and women in I Cor 7. Of course most cases you hear offolks in this dilemma of feeling the "need" of a spouse are squandering their freedom on the world anyway so it is a moot chapter of Scripture to them. Anyone who has been around a day or two knows the fleshly needs of men and women. Men are drivenby sex and women are drivenby security; neither of which glorifies God or serves Him. The earth is already populated Jordan, the lost do that fine. It sure doesn't sound like God needs us to do it even 2000 years ago anymore. Food for thought that I doubt you will hear echoed anywhere else but pray about it. One thing is definitely for sure: God doesn'tcommand you to marry nor anyone else; quite the contrary according to God in I Cor 7 which is far more direct, clear and applicable to you than any other passages ofScriptures dealing with this subject. I think God made it clear through Paul that our purpose is to lay down our lives every day for the Gospel and not to follow worldly pursuits which absolutely do include marriage and raising a family. That will not amount to beans in eternity. Think about it.
  7. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    Oh that is the group John Calvin started. You know, the guy that taught all those poor souls that God is in complete and continuous control of everything including what you had for lunch. In addition, Calvin was the one that taught them to believe that God made you get saved against your will for some odd reason (maybe it was your minty breath) as opposed to what the Bible says which is that He knew you would get saved from the foundation of the world because He simply knows everything and knew you would believe.
  8. Prayers for a childhood friend

    I won't pry into itBCW and can see now some background. I recommend you just pray, pray and more prayand do nothing else at this point.
  9. Prayers for a childhood friend

    This is an odd post Ma'am. Since noone has the benefit of background in this situation it reads like a fleshly relationship you restarted with a man who is not your husband. That is where the confusion came in and I read it the same way. Please don't be offended, I am simply telling you how your post reads and nothing more. Were you witnessing to this man frequently during your reunion time or was it just a worldly friendship? If you were witnessing then you don't need any help understanding why he wants nothing to do with you. The world will hate you just as they hated Christ if you are living for Him. Beg God for this man's soul as explained in Luke chapter 11 and let him stay away is my recommendation. Platonic friendships don't have lies and mind games by enlarge so this post also is confusing. Just so you know
  10. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    If only he was runnin
  11. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    HA, good one
  12. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    One thing is definitely sure and that is it won't be Cruz or Trump selected at a contested convention. Trump because he is an outsider that would reinvent Washington. Cruz because he stands for the morals of the Bible more than anyone else in the legislative branch (that is readily reported on anyway). My guess is it will be Bush.
  13. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    I don't doubt that HC. It is looking more and more like a brokered convention and none of the campaigning candidates will be picked. The GOP doesn't like either Trump or Cruz so who knows who they will give the nod to.
  14. Why are Christians voting for Donald Trump?

    This information has all beenchecked, then double checked... it is 100% Correct. That's why there is such an alarm within US government, since Trump's statement about temporary suspension of migration of Muslims to US till US authorities make sure there is a proper concept of safe penetration of US territory! People are stunned to learn that the head of the U.S. CIA is a Muslim!Do hope this wakes up some!Until it hits you like a ton of bricks read it again, until you understand! We now have a Muslim government! John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. Obama's top adviser, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live. Hillary Clinton's top adviser, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are still involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt! Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim Homeland Security Adviser, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim Obama adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim. Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim . Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim . Nancy Pelosi announced she will appoint Rep Andre Carson, D-Ind, a Muslim , as the first Muslim lawmaker on the House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, of all things! It would make Carson the first Muslim to serve on the committee that receives intelligence on the threat of Islamic militants in the Middle East! He has suggested that U.S. schools should be modeled after Islamic madrassas, where education is based on the Quran!!! It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was sworn in. He did not repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again, in private. Yeah, right. CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible?? Valarie Jarret wrote her college thesis on how she wanted to change America into a Muslim friendly nation and she is a Obama top advisor! Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an, NOT the Bible! Conservative Congresswoman Michele Bachman, R-MN, was vilified and verbally tarred and feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking over our government! Considering all these appointments, it would explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on Christians all over Africa and the Middle East! The more damage Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! Our nation and our government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us! It can only get worse! In his book Obama said, "if it comes down to it, I will side with the Muslims". Common sense doesn't grow in everyone’s garden! **pasted from an email I received
  15. Why hide if you have the truth?

    See what you did Jeff?? OFP is the most level-headed judge on here