wretched

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  • Birthday 08/14/1963

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  1. wretched added a post in a topic Titus   

    Very interesting and seems very reasonable IMO. I am not sure of the history of why IFBs stay away from the term Bishop. I suppose the catholic association but ? There is certainly a difference between the two in Scripture.
  2. wretched added a post in a topic Free Will   

    Can't argue Scriptural interpretation with apostates friends, it is the meaning of the word. They worship a lost writer named calvin, come out from among them and be ye separate saith the Lord.
    Why would the only theme of the NT be to suffer for Christ in the spreading of the Gospel if the calvin robot idea had an ounce of merit?
  3. wretched added a post in a topic Donald Trumps Everyone Else . . . . Not   

    I for one appreciate greatly the information in this thread. I have been wondering lately whether I should bother with voting at all.
  4. wretched added a post in a topic It Is Time   

    The problem is faith in God's Word as being complete and timeless. unbound by regional environment, culture or time period. To even imagine that the Word was influenced by those factors is blasphemy IMO and carries a heavy judgement at the Great White Throne.
    Whether a date setter or a preterist, both are by sight and not by faith and neither idea is of God. I call none brethren who believe either way. These types believe what can be "proven" to them by sight or other resource. That is no belief (faith) at all.
    It is sad to imagine it but I wonder if these types belief in the finished work of Christ is also dependent on outside corroboration? Well if parts of God's Word is dependent on outside corroboration then it is reasonable to assume that all of IT is. Without faith in God's Word, their is no faith at all.
    Strange how the lost have more belief in the Divinity of the Bible than intellectual christians do.
  5. wretched added a post in a topic It Is Time   

    Here are the issues I see and I appreciate the run down I really do, that clears up some things and confuses others at the same time.
    1. You seem to bring down the Bible to a base form as if it written by the whims and environments of the men God chose to write it. Especially Revelation
    2. You feel the need to validate Scripture by the writings of men after it was completed. This may be the worst in my opinion.
    3. You can't prove your points with the Bible alone, you seem to place equal weight on the writings and history recordings of men.
    Without faith it is impossible to please God. Intellectualism (pride/self-glory) is the exact opposite of faith. I fear you have allowed the sin of intellectualism to steal your faith in God's Word as written.
    This is where all the whacky ideas come from and it is always of the flesh....ALWAYS
     
  6. wretched added a post in a topic It Is Time   

    Wow, fascinating..I doubt I have ever witnessed Scripture reduced to hearsay and rumor so well. Early church writers, huh? I would ask who but the proper question is who cares?
  7. wretched added a post in a topic It Is Time   

    This is a part of the point I make John. Discipleship to us is "here read this dude and that dude and I will see you back in church next week"
     
  8. wretched added a post in a topic It Is Time   

    The solution is quite simple but certainly will not occur. We are in the free fall portion of the falling away IMO so don't expect any change for the better.
    All discipleship, training, mentoring, encouragement, giving, edification and service is to be done in, through and out of the local church. No one should be writing books and/or making movies. God isn't leading them in any of that. He said in His Word what a pastor, deacon, evangelist is to be and a big shot author is nowhere in there. Because all leading by God occurs through His Word and by no other venue. Every single thing we do and decision we make and work for God we do is supposed to be done with and through the local NT Church as it was exampled in Acts
    It is this devilish universal mentality that has muddied the waters so badly here in these last days. Believers think they can be in God's will as free agents, doing and NOT DOING whatever they want apart from the church. They ignore their own pastors because they prefer some "big shot for God's" book on the subject or their blog, or website. HOW SAD WE ARE IN THESE DAYS. All we can do to help fix it - is to fix ourselves individually and stop this satanic free agency nonsense.
    All this universal free agency really means is to NOT serve the Lord and to not give and to not grow but our flesh sure loves it and will defend it vehemently.
     
  9. wretched added a post in a topic "Forced to Watch"   

    I stated it as opinion with an understanding of Scripture as a whole. No one verse but many overall that point to it.
    Happy go lucky, mind-erased bliss is indicated absolutely no where in Scripture. That way of thinking motivates one to do nothing for the Lord and certainly never to lose your life, pick up your cross and follow Jesus.
    Do you really think you will be mindless? Everything that made up your soul will be erased? Yes a new body but never a new soul, what are you thinking with this??
    This even smacks of calvin worship but in a different way. So we have no mind or free will in Heaven but we do here on earth or both? The Bible teaches NEITHER.
     
  10. wretched added a post in a topic "Forced to Watch"   

    It appears that your timeline is off John. The event you reference of no more crying, sorrow, etc. is what I am talking about and it clearly occurs in Rev 21:4 which is after the Great White Throne and (once again) after the 1000 year earthly reign. There is no logical explanation for the tears, crying and sorrow to be wiped away at this point in the future if it occurs immediately upon a Christian's death or the Rapture. And where do you get this anyway? Sure the Bible does teach that at some point in the future we are wiped clean and have glorified bodies but nowhere does it state exactly at what point this occurs.
    I think it is a grave error to believe that we will suffer no shame once the Judgement Seat is finished. I believe the exact opposite. Bible clearly says we will be judged for both good and bad done in the body after salvation and goes on to clearly record the timeline for future events through the 1000 years, the Great White Throne and the New Jerursalem and ONLY THEN will the tears be wiped away, the crying, sorrow and pain no more. Not one second sooner.
    Are we condemned for sin, absolutely not. Are we judged for our actions and inactions in the body after salvation - Absolutely. Part of our judgement will be the sorrow we will endure for over 1000 years IMO. If God chastises and even kills Christians who ignore Him on earth, it is consistent to believe we will not be happy go lucky campers initially in Heaven.
    Your line of thought is dangerously the same as the easy believism types (rock and roll rick warren) half Gospel types. They think salvation is a one time agreement and then you go on about your fleshly pursuits without consequence. I don't think you actually believe that but your line of thinking here marries with it.
    Any line of thought that takes away the Fear of the Lord is of Satan (especially in regards to believers).
    I think even the Godliest of beleivers will crumble in shame before Him, prostate and unable to even lift their eyes. This will be the first time we will really feel regret, when we realize for the first time what He actually did for us and how we repaid Him by spitting in His face at every turn down here.
     
     
         
  11. wretched added a post in a topic "Forced to Watch"   

    I don't understand, How would the taints of sin in your old physical body have anything to do with your soul being intact, IE, your mind, emotions and personality? You will still be you yet without sin. I have never seen anything that hints at memories being erased prior to the Great White Throne. I think we will be fully aware of self and our past, family, friends, acquaintances.
  12. wretched added a post in a topic "Forced to Watch"   

    The Great White Throne Judgement does occur after the millennial reign and God indicates the wiping away of all tears after the Great White Throne in Rev 21 also. It makes sense to me that we would have full memory throughout.
  13. wretched added a post in a topic "Forced to Watch"   

    Oh I bet there will be many "surprises" for my sorry rump up in Glory. I think I will answer for much wasted time after salvation and I think I will be very rudely enlightened about all I knew I should be doing down here and couldn't let go of the world enough to do it.
    Ever felt regret over a decision, action or inaction you have done (or not done). I try to imagine the regret I will feel once there., I think I will finally understand what that word really means.
    I bowlegged the word surprises above because I won't truly be surprised at my Judgement. Shocked and dissappointed at myself - ABSOLUTELY but I know what I should have been doing all along anyway, the Scripture and Spirit tells me constantly.
    There will be a 1000 years of complete and vivid memory for all of us with many reminders IMO. Living with regret for 10, 20, 50 years is bad enough...try to imagine 1000. IMO there will be hierarchy during this time (maybe forever), those whose physical life for Christ faithfully mattered as best they could and then the vast majority of us who quenched the Spirit to grievance accepting our fleshly excuses as truth.
    Once again, Scripture taken as a whole and some thought put into it consistent with Scripture as a whole. No particular verse.
    If you don't get it, study and pray harder; If you "won't" get it, shame on you; if you do get it, you have from today forward to change it.
     
  14. wretched added a post in a topic R. C. Sproul Jr.   

     
    No problem guy, you win. Won't do you any good later but that is between you and God. Enough said by me. I wrote all that more for myself than anyone else.
  15. wretched added a post in a topic R. C. Sproul Jr.   

    Here is something about Bible study our flesh can't teach us. There are general themes that are prevalent throughout Scripture that taken as a whole can lead a Spirit lead, thinking-for-themself person to draw conclusions from. This is a case such as that.  
    If your only purpose on earth after salvation is to spread the Gospel (which is it without any need for anyone's agreement) lest you want me to paste the entire NT in this post and If a prevalent theme in relaying "thus sayeth the Lord" is not optional and it never has been, then it stands to reason that we will be judged for it.
    There is a reason the Judgement Seat of Christ is called that. There is a reason why there will be tears in Heaven and there is a reason why these tears will not be wiped away for over 1000 years.
    2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
    11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
    It will not be "happy time" for everyone (hardly anyone) at the Judgement Seat like the false gospel spreaders and lukewarms want to make themselves believe. Nor wll it be simply a "Crown Handing Out ceremony". You and I will be judged (note: I did not say condemned) and the verdicts from this judgement will stick with us throughout eternity (once again a general theme logically concluded if the lost have no appeals at the Great White Throne). There will most likely be a point in time, contextually after the millenial reign of Christ where we will remember our earthly failures for God no more. Hence the wiping away of these tears. Rev 20: 11-15 & Rev 21:1-5
    So, what is it in Ezekiel 3 that I previously posted that you don't understand? "but his blood will I require at thine hand"
    Now if David will see his unborn child again, it stands to reason that we will all recognize all the family and close unequally yoked buddies we had on earth also. They will accuse and rebutt but to no avail. No doubt, they will point to us and say Lord Lord, how come thy servant never PERSUADED ME? A reasonable conclusion if the tares will rebutt and say LORD, LORD, did we not prophesy in thy Name and in Thy Name do many wonderful works. It is implied that all, both saved and lost will be able to reply at their respective Judgements.
    IOW: we only get one shot down here friends, the shot is PERSUADING MEN, make the most of it. Perhaps if you start thinking this way, that lost jesuits writings will not be so important to you anymore or his subsequent minion's writings relieving your flesh. Or all that "wholesome" entertainment everyone wants to waste God's time doing down here (for that matter).
    Lets tighten up our belts and buck up boys cause mutely handing out tracks once in a while (when you have no worldly plans) ain't going to cut it at the Judgement and for the rest of eternity.