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  1. I won't presume to speak for Bob but will mention a couple of thoughts for you to consider friend. Assurance of salvation can only come inside each person's heart. "The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the sons of God" Assurance can never truly come from others convincing or reiterating another's belief. In addition, no one can pin down a date or time when they were regenerated. They only know after it happened because their eyes are now opened and they now hunger for the Milk of God's Truth. Sure folks can remember when they recited a prayer or the words indicating belief and can remember when they professed Christ before men but not when they truly believed in the heart. It is at that split second that the Spirit gave them new birth. John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. I am sensing that you maybe misunderstanding the point Bob and others are making in this thread. They are not implying repentance is a "work" but rather a state of one's heart (an attitude of sorrow seeking mercy). This attitude of repentance is brought on by the Gospel Scriptures. I wonder if this may be simply another argument on semantics.
  2. Excellent assessment IMO. Roloff understood that conviction of the Spirit comes only from hearing the Scriptures and produces a broken and contrite spirit in the heart. Psalms 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Easy believe-ism has produced IMO 95% of the so called "saved" people in this country today (including most IFB big numbers churches). People who claim Christ as Savior but do not humbly Fear God because they are given a partial "gospel" of Good News when they have never heard the bad news of sin, righteousness and judgment to come first. These demonstrate no fearful sorrow seeking God's mercy. Sure they are active members of local churches but at the same time, full of the pride of life and self-satisfaction. Although He died for all to be saved & gives all the opportunity to be saved whether they admit it or not, He only loves those who humble themselves when they hear His Word and fear Him. This fear produces repentance which in turn produces regeneration of the Spirit which finally produces our love for Him because of His Great Mercy (never the other way around). We love Him because He first loved us and gave Himself a Ransom for us. The moral of this post is this: How can one benefit from the Good News when they are clueless to the bad news. Easy believe-ism truly is the most cleverly deceptive apostasy of all IMO and it is wildfire now in these final days.
  3. And please also a thorough review brother. What is there to do and see and how did you like it?
  4. That is interesting.
  5. Hey friend, since these horses has been beaten to death and raised repeatedly on here, click the activity tab, then just type in the words transubstantiation into the search feature, study the threads and then do the same with the word eucharist and you will be taught the correct doctrine on it. Then do the same with the word remitted. I suspect every question or argument you can imagine have already been answered by Scripture. The Lord also said He was the true vine, the door, the good shepherd, the chief cornerstone, etc...but the RCC couldn't find a pagan symbol or ritual to falsely apply to it. Our Lord spoke often allegorically and only the Holy Spirit can guide you into these true meanings. Without the new birth, you can never understand. If you are sincere and want to know God's truth you will study all that comes up, will see your need for salvation and won't need more explanations in regards to these roman pagan heresies.
  6. Why certainly He did friend: Matt 16: 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Matt 17: 23 Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men: 23And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry. Luke 24: 6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, 7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. 8And they remembered his words Also Mark 10:34; Luke 9:22; Luke 18:33; Luke 24:46; Just because Peter and the other Apostles didn't understand it yet does not negate that the Lord taught it throughout the Gospels.
  7. Rosie, The best hint at the timing is contained in this passage which I mentioned earlier. The Judgment Seat has nothing to do with the death of believers. It has to do with the resurrection of believers. The resurrection of the just most likely will be at the catching away of the church because it is the only discernible and corresponding event that would make Scriptural sense: Those saved afterward during the trib are judged as they are martyred according to Rev 20. Luke 14:13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. I see no other cooresponding event in which this resurrection of the just is referring too apart from the rapture. Of course this may be incorrect but with what we have been given by God in His Word, there is no "knowable" alternative IMO. However, I and others may be misunderstanding the question. Perhaps you could give more background into the context and reason the question was raised?
  8. Please consider my quickly written opinion: I believe the two judgments we traditional speak of are accurate and are tied directly to the two different resurrections God speaks of: The resurrection of the just occurs at the catching away of the church. And there is a separate resurrection of the just from the unjust. 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Luke 14:13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. Acts 24:15And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust (this speaks of separate resurrections as other Scripture references discuss) The Judgment seat of Christ begins at the rapture with the church saints and continues through the Great Tribulation with the trib saints. As more are murdered/martyred during the tribulation, they are judged for their works on earth during the tribulation. The Great White Throne Judgement of the lost occurs after the 1000 year reign of Christ and is the second resurrection (as I note and bolded below). In order to rule and reign with Christ, we must be part of the first resurrection that occurs at all points of the tribulation beginning at the rapture of the church else what capacity would our ruling positions be determined by?: Rev 20: 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them (indicating judging is taking place during the tribulation): and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished (this is a caveat inserted to distinguish between the resurrection of the saved-FIRST resurrection and the resurrection of the lost- SECOND resurrection). This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. This passage makes it clear to me that the just's judgment occurs during the tribulation, determining position of rulership during the 1000 year reign and NOT 1000 years later when all the lost are judged and condemned. The church age saints judged at the beginning of the tribulation and those martyred (to be saved) throughout the tribulation. All of these rule and reign and their levels of reward/crowns and rank comes from the pure faith works they perform during their physical lives. Although there are some hints that the tribulation saints will hold higher positions of rulership than the church saints (the first-last/last-first parable) I personally believe however that the church age saints will have more rewards and positions of higher authority than those saved during the tribulation. Why, because these trib saints will have the full benefit of sight to believe and a very short period to serve-all indications are that this service will be more in the form of martyrdom as the above passage indicates. The trib saints will see first hand God's miracles, signs and wonders which the church age saints never got to see post Apostles. We got saved by faith without sight of any type and are "bless-ed" to God more so than any other groups in History IMweightofSriptureO. Not only do we rule and reign with Christ but we will judge angels (I Cor 6:3). Sorry for all the bolding but I figure some inflection might help in the explanation's understanding......
  9. Seems appropriate for anderson
  10. This one discusses it pretty well
  11. Excellent post Although I may not be in 100% agreement with the baptism pre-reqs, I understand what you are saying: Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. **This does however indicate to me that Philip took the man's word for it. Perhaps we should ask the right question....
  12. Good catch
  13. According to NT Scriptures I see little if any involvement of angels with us during the church age which is of course consistent with the doctrine of the indwelling Spirit. I gather from the OT, Gospels and Revelation that God uses them for His own bidding episodically now (which we can not currently grasp, see or understand I reckon) but will have many missions for them in the times to come according to prophetic Scripture. There is a warning against the worship of angels in Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, There is also one mention of Angels being assigned to children which intimates "guardian" type angels. This is only mentioned pertaining to children however: Matt 18: 3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Not much, but this is all I got anyway.....
  14. Good question?
  15. Scripture shows and I am sure I am forgetting some info: 3 types of angel, if you count archangels separate from standard cherubs individually created vice procreation sexually genderless not having reproductive organs 1/3 of their numbers are fallen have free will just like man Powerful but of less stature to God than man since we will judge them. Why, what are you hearing?