Here is a big problem I see in the debate. 1st time Ian said thy people was everyone, Scott said thy people was Jews. 2nd time Ian said thy people was all of Abraham's descendants, Scott said it was the Jews. 3rd time Ian and Scott agreed its the Jews. 4th time Ian is back to they people being everyone, Scott remains with the Jews. When discussing 70AD, Ian points back to "Jews" only as thy people. Israel disbanded as a nation, Jerusalem destroyed, the Temple burnt, all of it Jewish. Scott is sticking with the Jews. So the whole doctrine falls apart because thy people needs to mean two groups for Ian, Christians for promises and Jews for punishments. So as it stands Ian is defeating himself.
Zechariah 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Zechariah 6:13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
I think the Anti-Christ will build the next temple to make it seem like he is fulfilling these verses. The devil's temple will be torn down and a new temple built by Jesus fulfilling these verses. When the earthquake happens it could destroy the devil's temple.
Man has freewill, but as I seek after God to do His will in my life he orders my steps. God has never and never will determine some one to break His Laws/Commandments. God allows our own sinful flesh and Satan to tempt us away from Him. He knows how we will respond but he doesn't force us to respond one way or the other.
Pastor Scott while in the flesh thy people are in a state of everlasting righteousness? Before Jesus is anointed King, you hold God will bring in everlasting righteousness upon thy people? While thy people are under the beasts' rule? Also do you see these thy people as being born again before Jesus returns? And thy people will have children born of the flesh in a state of everlasting righteousness? Sorry Ian, I was saving my questions and posted too soon.
Thank You Pastor Scott. This has been a lot to think about. I have additional questions I'd like to ask. I do not want to step on Teacher Ian's territory as he may ask many of them in his next posting. Ian, I look forward to your next posting and how you will handle Scott's last posting. I want to thank you two men for doing this, it has been a blessing and help to me.
The list as stated in the Bible is: to finish the transgressionto make an end of sinsto make reconciliation for iniquityto bring in everlasting righteousnessto seal up the vision and prophecyto anoint the most HolyPastor Scott, my real name is Ken. I have a question. Is the list of verse 24 out of order? The anointing occurs at the beginning of the 1000 years? seal up the vision and prophecyanoint the most Holyfinish the transgressionmake an end of sinsmake reconciliation for iniquitybring in everlasting righteousnessBut we know after the 1000 years the Devil is released and people join him in a final rebellion. That is sin. It is the same problem teacher Ian had and you rebutted. Why is sin occurring after the 490 years and the 1000 reign?
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=christ&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1 The Holy Bible says Jesus was anointed 555 times in 522 verses. The word Christ means anointed. Even in your own post you call Him anointed while rejecting His anointing. (body of anointed) There was a group in the Holy Bible that rejected Jesus' anointing, the chief priests. Mattew 23:39 was spoken to the scribes and Pharisees who controlled Jerusalem. They was the ones who told Jesus make the people stop. Luke 19:39 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. 40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. He was received as King by lowly people. Matthew 21:5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. Luke 19:38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. John 12:15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Their is no verse in the old testament that says the Messiah must be anointed by man. Even today man is rejecting God's anointing on Jesus. Even Jesus Himself said He was anointed by the Lord and they reject that. The doctrine that Jesus had to be anointed by man was invented by the Priests who rejected Jesus. They still use it today. Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. That is why it is so important that we teach the Holy Bible and how God anointed Jesus in the hope they might get saved.