Jordan Kurecki

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About Jordan Kurecki

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    Only a sinner saved by grace
  • Birthday 03/11/1992

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    Reading the scriptures, listening to sacred music, door to door evangelism, handing out gospel tracts, preaching,teaching others the word of God.
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    I was raised in a broken home, I never really went to churches at all growing up except for maybe 5 or 6 times at random churches when I was younger, I became hopelessly addicted to drugs in my teen years, My life was falling apart, I was miserable and without hope in this world, then I started going to a Baptist church with a friend, I heard the Gospel and I repented of my sins and turned to Jesus Christ to save me, My life has been incredible since the Lord came into my life. I go to Fairhaven Baptist College

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    http://jordankurecki.sermon.tv/

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  1. So you claim that the papacy is the "man of sin?? When did the Papacy sit in the "temple, showing himself that he is God"? I would venture to guess that you are somehow going to claim that the temple means the church? Except for the fact that the Roman Catholic church is in no way at all the temple of God because they are not a true church made up of regenerated people. please show me in the scripture how an unregenerated group of men following the traditions of men can be considered the temple of God? There are serious problems with your interpretation.
  2. First, the Roman Empire did fall, and the Antichrist has not yet been revealed. Second, Paul said the restrainer is "HE who letteth will let until HE be taken out of the way" the personal pronoun "he" tells us that the restrainer is a person. the Roman Empire is not a person.
  3. Glad you pointed this out to clarify. Here is an example. the spanish word Hablar means to talk. when you put O at the end of the word it means "I talk" So Hablo means "I talk". It's one Spanish word but translates exactly to two words in English. It's not that you are adding words.
  4. I do not agree with your division of the tribulation period into tribulation and wrath. I don't understand how you could not consider the seals also as the wrath of God.
  5. While what you say is true, it also does not say that he is going to come down to the earth, in fact it says we shall meet the Lord in the air an be caugh up in the clouds. However a careful comparsion with John 14 gives us another aspect to the picture: 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. Notice Jesus said he was going to his Father's house to prepare a place for us. the implication is that when he comes again, it is to take us to our mansions in the Father's house. To me this is a clear picture of Christ descending to get his Church and then reascending to take them back to the Father's house. and just for the record, I did not quote Morgan Edwards to prove the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, but I quoted him simply to show that the point you made about the Irvingites is false. Now if you wish to have a discussion on the Pre-Tribulation Rapture I believe I can explain the position more clearly and possibly help with some of the difficulties you percieve, as of yet you really have not brought forth an argument that I have not given a reasonable answer to.
  6. “For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins” (Ephraem the Syrian, On the Last Times). Observe that Ephraem taught that the saints will be taken to the Lord so they will not see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world, which is exactly what 1 Thessalonians 5:3-9 says. Ephraem taught a literal antichrist who will sit in a literal rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, a literal 3.5 year Tribulation, a literal Two Witnesses or prophets who will preach in Jerusalem, a literal battle of Gog and Magog. “And when the three and a half years have been completed, the time of the Antichrist, through which he will have seduced the world, after the resurrection of the two prophets, in the hour which the world does not know, and on the day which the enemy or son of perdition does not know, will come the sign of the Son of Man, and coming forward the Lord shall appear with great power and much majesty, with the sign of the word of salvation going before him, and also even with all the powers of the heavens with the whole chorus of the saints. ... Then Christ shall come and the enemy shall be thrown into confusion, and the Lord shall destroy him by the Spirit of his mouth. And he shall be bound and shall be plunged into the abyss of everlasting fire alive with his father Satan; and all people, who do his wishes, shall perish with him forever; but the righteous ones shall inherit everlasting life with the Lord for ever and ever” (Ephraem the Syrian, On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World, A.D. 373). Ephraem believed in the imminency of the return of Christ and urged his fellow Christians to live godly lives in expectation of His return. Invicta please take back your statement from earlier that implies that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture was invented by the Irvingites. Anyone who reads the above quotes from Ephraem the Syrian can clearly see that he did in fact teach a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Just because you claim that people are misunderstanding doesn't change the truth. If you don't want to believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, then that's your choice, but please stop spreading misinformation about the position. The Following is also interesting: MORGAN EDWARDS (1722-1795) Morgan Edwards was one of the most prominent Baptist leaders of his day. He was the pastor of the Baptist church in Philadelphia and the founder of Brown University, the first Baptist college in America. A summary of life was featured in the Baptist Encyclopedia. He was one of the first Baptist historians of repute, his Materials Toward A History of the Baptists (1770) providing a foundation for all subsequent works. Following is what Edwards believed about Bible prophecy: “The distance between the first and second resurrection will be somewhat more than a thousand years. I say, somewhat more; because the dead saints will be raised, and the living changed at Christ’s ‘appearing in the air’ (I Thes. iv. 17); and this will be about three years and a half before the millennium, as we shall see hereafter: but will he and they abide in the air all that time? No: they will ascend to paradise, or to some one of those many ‘mansions in the father's house’ (John xiv. 2), and disappear during the foresaid period of time. The design of this retreat and disappearing will be to judge the risen and changed saints; for ‘now the time is come that judgment must begin,’ and that will be ‘at the house of God’ (I Pet. iv. 17)” (Edwards, Two Academical Exercises on the Subjects Bearing the Following Titles; Millennium and Last-Novelties, 1744). What has Edwards said? Note the following: • He believes that at least 1,003.5 years will transpire between resurrections. • He associates the first resurrection with the rapture in 1 Thess. 4:17, occurring at least 3.5 years before the start of the millennium (i.e., at least 3.5 years before the second coming of Christ at the start of the millennium. • He associates the meeting of believers with Christ in the air and returning to the Father's house with John 14:2, as do modern pretribulationists. • He sees believers disappearing during the time of the tribulation, which he goes on to talk about in the rest of the section from which the rapture statement is taken. • He, like modern pretribulationists, links the time in heaven, during the tribulation, with the "bema" judgment of believers. The only difference, at least as far as the above statements go, between current pretribulationism and Edwards is the time interval of 3.5 years instead of 7. In fact, anti-pretribulationist John Bray wonders, https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/when_was_the_pre_tribulation_rapture_taught.html http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/morgan-edwards-another-pre-darby-rapturist You can find more examples of believers who held to the rapture before the Irvingites or Darby here: http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/yet-another-pre-darby-rapture-statement Invicta if you are going to insist that the quotes above are not evidence that Christians taught the Rapture before Darby or the Irvingites then the burden of proof is on you to refute the quotations, simply saying they don't mean what they appear to say is not really a valid response.
  7. Well to be quite honest, Ephraim the Syrian taught a pretribulation rapture around 370 AD. Though I don't give weight to any doctrines based on whether or not we have written records of Church History where individuals taught a particular doctrine. the Bible is my authority. Also, you are painting a strawman here. It's not that the Holy Spirit is completely removed from the earth, but that his dispensation of indwelling believers is ended, and things go back much like how things were in the Old Testament where the Holy Spirit will come upon men, like he did with David, Saul, and others. It's not the Holy Spirit is completely removed, but all of the believers who are indwelt by him are removed, therefore his influence on the earth is removed so that the man of sin, the antichrist, shall be revealed. That is not to say that God will not still pour out his spirit upon certain individuals again during the tribulation. " The question has often been asked, Will anyone be saved after the rapture? The Scriptures clearly indicate that a great multitude of both Jews and Gentiles will trust in the Lord after the church is caught up to glory. Though the children of God living on earth at the time will be translated when Christ comes for His church, immediately a testimony will be raised up to the name of Christ through new converts among Jews and Gentiles. Though these are never described by the term “church,” they are constantly called saints, that is, those set apart as holy to God and saved through the sacrifice of Christ. The presence of saved people in the world after the rapture has puzzled some because according to 2 Thessalonians 2:7 the one who now restrains sin, often identified as the Holy Spirit, is pictured as being removed from the world. The question then is how can people be saved in the tribulation if the Holy Spirit is taken out of the world? The answer, of course, is that the Holy Spirit is removed from the world in the same sense in which He came on the day of Pentecost. People were saved before the day of Pentecost when the Spirit of God came to indwell the church, and it should be clear from other Scriptures that the Holy Spirit is always omnipresent. He has always been in the world and always will be, in keeping with the divine attribute of omnipresence. Though the special ministries which are characteristic of the present dispensation may cease, there will be the continued ministry of the Spirit in a similar way to that which existed before Pentecost. There is a parallel in the fact of the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Throughout the Old Testament, Christ was present in the world, but it was not His particular field of operation though He ministered as the Angel of Jehovah. In due time, according to the plan of God, Christ was born in Bethlehem and ministered as God’s unique revelation of Himself to mankind. Then He ascended into heaven, yet at the same time He told His disciples, “Lo, I am with you alway” (Matt. 28:20). In other words while His special earthly work was completed with His sacrifice on the cross and His resurrection, He nevertheless continued to work in the world in His omnipresence as God. Likewise the Holy Spirit is resident in the world now just as Christ was resident in the world between His birth and ascension. When the present age ends and the Holy Spirit is caught up with the church, the situation will return to that which was true before the day of Pentecost. The Holy Spirit will continue to be working in the world, but in some particulars in a different way. There is good reason to believe, however, that the Holy Spirit will lead people to Christ, and many will be saved during the tribulation time. A description of this is given in the seventh chapter of the book of Revelation, which is so plain that no one should question whether people will be saved after the rapture." https://bible.org/seriespage/7-saints-great-tribulation
  8. Are you sure that the scriptures only promise a jot and tittle preservation? If God only promised "jot and tittle", then would you also be consistent by believing that preservation does not apply to the New Testament as well since it is in Greek? I also have some questions for others in this thread, but let me preface it by saying that I do believe that the King James Bible is without error. Here is my question, Where does the bible promise that God would accurately translate his words into an English version in 1611 and then preserve them? Why do we not believe the Tyndale, Geneva, or Bishops bible to be the inspired "preserved" word of God?
  9. ;)
  10. That preacher was wrong. While it is true that all believers both Jew and Gentile will be taken up by the rapture prior to the 7 year tribulation period, it is also true that AFTER the Rapture there will be people who become converted and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Honestly I don't see any difficulty at all.
  11. Excuse me, but this is the Authoritative Pastor Scott Markle thread for all English speaking people. The views expressed here carry full authority and the FACTS about you represented here far outweigh the contrary OPINIONS you may have about yourself. Just because you claim this thread is not authoritative does not mean that it is not in fact authoritative, not only is it authoritative, but I believe it is also the Preserved Pastor Scott Markle Information thread as well, and as such it will be preserved by the power of the world wide web through the stewardship of Onlinebaptist.com. Pastor Scott Markle wants us to be left adrift without any authoritative page on his nature and character so that we are left only to the fanciful opinions and false caricatures, and false image of himself that he wants to present to us. Brethren, please take heed that this man seeks to lead you astray into a world of no absolutes, a world where all is grey and fuzzy.Do not fall for it! "a fool answereth a matter before he heareth it"
  12. I have hard time seeing how it could, because according to Matthew 25, at the second coming at the end of the 7 years, the Sheep enter the Kingdom, and the Goats enter everlasting fire. Therefore to me it seems that if the rapture happened at this point, all of the sheep would have glorified bodies, and all of the goats are damned.. this would mean there would be only people on earth with glorified bodies that are like unto the angels in heaven. However I must admit that maybe small children under the age of accountability at this time perhaps may not fall into either category.
  13. I think the only reason he sells any of his books on Marriage is because Pastor Damron requires all the young couples who are getting married to read it. ;) Figures, the only way he can get rid of his books is if they are mandatory reading or he gives them away! P.S. For those who may get offended, I am kidding.
  14. Personally, I do not believe Eve really did add to God's word, I have often heard people preach that Eve added to the word of God. however if that were really true would not that be the first sin in the Garden and not the actual eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? why did not God rebuke eve for "changing his word". Honestly I just think that in our zeal to defend the KJV, that we read something into Genesis about Eve's response to the serpent that just really is not there. I will be the first to defend the KJV against other versions, but I do not believe that we need to stretch things to do so. Sadly to often I see the KJV defended with arguments and reasons that are sometimes weak and sometimes plain just wrong. I would also like to say: How do we know God did not further add that they should not even touch the tree? We certainly don't see anywhere that God commands an offering of a lamb, and yet in Genesis 4 we see Abel offering a sacrifice of a lamb to the Lord, Would my other brothers also contend that Abel added a religious tradition that was not from God based on the same type of reasoning applied to Eve's response to the serpent and her supposed "adding" to the word of God?
  15. This thread is dedicated to the official presentation of information gathered on Pastor Scott Markle, having spent the last 5 days with him, I have concluded the following things about him: (Disclaimer:The following information may or may not be whole, complete, and may or may not be stretched for entertainment value) 1. Pastor Markle hates rainbows, it's true, the man has a completely unfounded hatred of rainbows, don't ask me how, I just know. 2. Pastor Markle is a much better magnet salesman than he is a book salesman 3.Pastor Markle does in fact talk in his sleep 4. Pastor Markle may or may not have a dorky pair of sports glasses that he wears when he gets beat playing basketball...hockey is another story..(The glasses may or may not still be dorky) 5.Pastor Markle is not as patient in person as he potrays himself on the onlinebaptist forums. 6. Pastor MArkel hatess wehn thnigs are nto orderyl 7.Pastor Markle uses absolutely zero sarcasm. 8. His wife is extremely patient and long suffering 9. If asking him a question, be prepared for a 4 pt outlined response followed by 10 other expositions on other topics and subjects before getting the answer to your original question. But in all seriousness Pastor Scott Markle is a good man and I am privileged to call him a friend.