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  1. The Widow's Mites

    I wonder why, if this widow was genuinely being robbed, why did Jesus just sit back and use her as an object lesson? Why didn't he either go up to her privately before she put her money in, and quietly explain to her why she should not do so? Or why didn't he put a stop to everything the way he did when he drove out the money changers (who were robbing people - "den of thieves")? Why this? Why that? But nope. He used her as an object lesson and we don't know what happens to her after this account. Wouldn't sitting back and doing nothing when you know someone is being robbed be just as bad as the one doing the robbing? (I personally think Jesus didn't do anything because the Temple wasn't in the wrong for accepting money from the laypeople. And because of her motives. Her heart was right with God. The money didn't mean a thing. Her giving the money didn't mean a thing. It was her heart. Her motives. Those Pharisees Jesus also used as object lessons could've dumped their entire fortunes to the last penny into the Temple until they were destitute on the street and it wouldn't have changed what Jesus said. Because their motives were wrong. Their hearts were not right with God.) There is no command for the New Testament saints that says : Thou shalt tithe to the New Testament church! But there is also no: Thou shalt NOT tithe to the New Testament church! What there is, is verse upon verse upon verse telling us what our attitudes/motives should be like when we do give. If a person decides they want to tithe and they are poor as a church mouse, it's still their decision. It is just as wrong for us to discourage tithing, shame those who do tithe, preach against tithing, and teach against tithing as it is to preach for an exact 10% tithe, shame those who are tithing, encourage forced tithing (fear tithing: God will punish you if you don't, etc). Both are wrong.  There isn't a verse for or against the practice in the New Testament, but there are commands concerning our attitude/motives of giving. What is your motive for preaching for tithing? What is your motive for preaching against tithing? Whatever ones motive is for preaching for or against a thing, you really need to make sure your heart is right with God first, before you start trying to convince others what God wants them to do with their money. (the above is all general 'you' , it's not aimed at anyone in particular)     As a side note, this is why I rarely post here anymore,  it really saddens me when I see topics like this that end up with Christians at each others throats and taking sides. There should only be one 'side', and that is God's side. For some reason, tithing discussions arguments seem to always end up really volatile and full of venom.... and they shouldn't be, it's a topic that needs to be discussed in a level headed way, because it truly is an important topic.
  2. i find it amusing

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  7. Titus

      Now, I believe opposite. To me, personally, "husband of one wife" has a crystal clear meaning and saying "divorced men or a man married to a divorced woman are still qualified to pastor" is adding to the Bible. You and the majority of folks here on Online Baptist disagree with me and see a gray area where because God allows divorce under some circumstances, it's perfectly okay for pastors, under some circumstances. I will not debate or discuss this anymore, as there is already a thread dedicated to that subject (and I doubt it will be a fruitful discussion as we are both firm in our belief). And since this thread is dedicated to the study of Titus, I'll not belabor the point. As to the other things you brought out, I agree there aren't qualifications for certain standards, I was just pointing out that when a pastor doesn't take his role seriously, doesn't take the very words of God seriously, and allows certain things to slide into gray areas in his own personal life, he's leading the church down a dangerous path. So because the pastor allows certain things in his life (whatever it may be), those same or similar things start slipping quietly into the church and the pastor doesn't address them because he himself would be affected, and soon there is less and less preaching against sin and more and more acceptance of sin. Things that used to be crystal clear are now gray and God's people are confused about what is right and what is wrong. Pilate's question to Jesus is becoming commonplace among Christians today - "What is truth?"  If God holds pastors to a higher standard than laypeople (15! qualifications!), than so should we. A pastor should be above reproach. A pastor should not lead the church God has called him to down a path that leads to sin. God will hold that pastor accountable for everything he says and does behind the pulpit and as a pastor. #15 - Faithful to the Word. I believe this qualification is very important, but sadly becoming increasingly rare. Titus 1:9 -  "holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers." 
  8. Titus

    I just wanted to add that I hadn't realized there were so many qualifications for the pastorate. It shows that God is serious about this position and it shouldn't be taken lightly by those who are pastors or who are thinking of becoming a pastor. In regards to the 2nd point that was brought up, that line of reasoning could actually be applied to all of the 15 of the listed qualifications, all you have to say is: "well, God/the Bible doesn't specifically mentioned my unique circumstances, so it must be okay for me. But it wouldn't be okay for so-and-so because their unique circumstances are different from mine."  This is why women are now accepted as pastors. This is why "Christian" rock music is sung in churches. This is why immorality is running rampant and accepted in churches. Because Pastors are becoming lenient. They are not taking their office seriously. They are not taking the Bible seriously. The Bible is being changed to suit the changing times (and I don't just mean the different versions, some who are KJV only will pick and choose what they want to preach and what they don't touch with a ten foot pole because they themselves might be convicted of something). The Bible does not need to spell out every little thing in our lives. We just need to understand "Thus saith the LORD." and not say "well, everything isn't all black and white. Look at this shade of gray, so pretty." while stepping closer and closer to that black area that used to be so obviously black. The Bible gives multiple warnings about this sort of thing, yet they're continuously ignored or glossed over.
  9. Tomato or Rose

    I was just going to tell a joke in the humor section, but decided to make a silly game instead. So, this game is called 'Tomato or Rose'. What happens is, person A tells a joke, a funny story, or anything with humor. If you laugh so hard your monocle pops out and falls into your tea, you toss a  "Rose" and then you tell a joke. If the joke person A told is one you've heard a million times or otherwise don't think it's funny, you give a "harrumph", take a sip of your tea, and throw a  "Tomato" and then you tell a joke to make up for the lame one. You can use emoticons for emphasis if you want. If you're unable to think of a joke or other humorous thing to post, you can just throw a tomato or rose and then anybody after that is free to post something. The only rules are don't throw bricks, don't take the tomatoes personally(if you get a lot you can make spaghetti sauce! yum!), and just have fun! _____________________ Okay I'll start: A collector of rare books ran into an acquaintance who told him he had just thrown away an old Bible that he found in a dusty, old box. He happened to mention that Guten-somebody-or-other had printed it.            "Not Gutenberg?" gasped the collector.            "Yes, that was it!"            "You idiot! You've thrown away one of the first books ever printed. A copy recently sold at auction for half a million dollars!"            "Oh, I don't think this book would have been worth anything close to that much," replied the man. "It was scribbled all over in the margins by some guy named Martin Luther."    tomato or rose?
  10. I've started a Bible study in the Ladies section. If any ladies are interested I'd welcome a good discussion on the subject at hand. I hope it's a blessing. :)

    1. trapperhoney

      I don't have access to the ladies' section...

  11. Greetings from Germany!

  12. It Is Time

    I read your comment and was reminded of yesterday's Bible study. We have been discussing creation, Adam&Eve, etc, and the topic of Lucifer and demons came up. There was confusion as to exactly what a demon/devil/angel is. One of the women kept saying "But I saw the movie, it's different!" after repeating that phrase several times in response to what I was saying, I finally got her to tell me the name of the movie: 'Constantine'  I had to explain that although they used Biblical themes/names, it was not a Biblically correct movie. "But I saw the movie!" <--me
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  14. Suggestions 4 SS Posters

    I don't have any suggestions for cheap professional posters, as when I was looking for some, I couldn't find any cheap ones that were drawn in a style I liked. So my Sunday School walls are bare most of the time. However, last year, I gave my students large sheets of butcher paper and had them draw scenes from the Bible lesson from 'Daniel and the Lions Den', they turned out great! They also drew a favorite Bible scene and chose the 'Temptation of Jesus', which was a group effort. The kids were thrilled with it and enjoyed having it up on the wall until Christmas rolled around and I put it away. I am thinking of doing something similar again, only with smaller and more durable poster paper. This time I'm going to have them individually choose either a favorite verse to write down/decorate or a favorite scene to draw. This might be something your Sunday School kids would be interested in doing. If you have access to an overhead projector, you could even find a scene of your own that could be projected onto the wall and the kids could trace over and paint it as a class project. (If you can't draw directly on the wall, you can cover the size you want with poster paper.)
  15. Bible Quiz

    trapperhoney, it's been over a week, so you may post your own question now.