John Young

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  1. I wasn't allowed a calculator in any of my math classes. Just saying. I love word search on my bible app but I admit it has made me a bit slow and stupid when it comes to remembering were precisely in the bible a passage is. Particularly, when at the door and pulpit when God gives me a passage, I can't just stop and word search for the Chapter and verse. It would be too cumbersome and not proper etiquette to be messing with a device. I need to be able to go right to it by memory. So I like to use a regular bible with book tabs and also add color paper tabs for important verse topics. Not to mention problems with battery power, lighting, weather and dropping a device. Also few like to let go of a device when dealing with people of the baser sort when a paper bible is not a problem to share. Over all a paper bible is just more practical for sharing the gospel and following along in church.
  2. Sorry to hear about the struggle you are having. God did say "It is not good that the man should be alone". There were a few years before I was married that singleness was wearing on me and girls that I would not have considered before started to look like viable options to the point of compromising my principles. Without going into detail I'm just letting you know that it is not a good place to go. Be sure you are seeking a wife that will help you and is someone whom you enjoy because she is her. Some people marry a willing girl simply because they don't want to be alone then too late they find she was not someone they wanted to make a life with. In regards to God, If you read a bit further in the same chapter he still considers Himself married to Israel. Seeks reunification at their return and speaks of a future when they are restored. Jeremiah 3:12-20 Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the Lord; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever. 13 Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the Lord. 14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion: 15 and I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. 16 And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the Lord, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Lord: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more. 17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. 18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers. 19 But I said, How shall I put thee among the children, and give thee a pleasant land, a goodly heritage of the hosts of nations? and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me. 20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the Lord.
  3. Any update on what is going on with the church directory? I think it was a nice feature of the site and was wandering if it will be back soon.
  4. FYI to any single Christian men who cannot find single lady in church....Go soul winning and led her to the Lord! I know many men who desired a wife but gave it up to the Lord and then in the process of doing the work of the Great Commission, God allowed them to meet their future wife. Another good option is Facebook....everybody knows somebody. I met my wife on Facebook because she was a friend of a friend and we went to the same college but did not know each other then. We knew each others friends, pastors and churches, were able to learn about each others families, found we had many things in common with similar goals in life, etc. @ Florida. Remember God sees christian marriage between a man an a woman as symbolic of his covenant between Him and man. Christ says "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.". This means if the divorced lady has a christian marriage then, even if they are divorced by man, they have not been divorced by God. If her husband is still single then she should seek to go back to him and have that marriage restored. However, if he or she remarries then that will no longer be possible. Matthew 5:31-32 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 but I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. I would say it would be better for your relationship with God and for christian marriage in our country for both of you to remain single than to marry divorced. Ultimately, as a Christian you have liberty and are free to do what you want in this matter, and it may even work out well for you, but I would not count on it. Expect to have more complications than the typical marriage. Jeremiah 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man’s, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the Lord. Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
  5. "Forty years" most likely is referring from the time David was anointed king of Israel by Samuel. So after Fourty years of David's anointing as the righful king of Israel Absalom attempted to become King of Israel.
  6. Its not a grammatical requirement unless you are actually using those words as a title in the sentence ("with quotes" as well) but I tend to capitalize the subject as if it were a name anywhere (without quotes) regardless, but that is just me. Whatever you do, do it consistently!
  7. It seems to me his Mid-trib position came about as a result of his prison ordeal. Some Pre-trib believers hold to the false idea that they and "the church" won't endure ANY tribulation and then when they do endure persecution for the cause of Christ they try to find a reason for it and flip to the other extreme, believing Israel's tribulation is actually for them and "the church". In so doing they grasp at historically Catholic doctrines to formulate their own.
  8. His divorce, subsequent remarriage nary a few months later, and then recently leading "church services" at the DAL over youtube was the thing that did it for me in deciding to part ways with him and his ministry. I'm not going to stand in condemnation of him and I'll let him "plow his row" for Christ and I'll "plow my row" for Christ, as he likes to say, but I'm not going to help him to do it by defending, promoting or participating in his ministry anymore.
  9. I think that may be too much speculation. Speculation is dangerous business, particularly if someone tries to build a doctrine on it! The bible never says Herod was a reprobate, though he very well could be. In my opinion Christ was silent primarily to fulfill the scripture which said he would be like a lamb to the slaughter. While it is not out of the realm of possibility as an extra reason God allowed for Herod to be the one in that position, the fact that wicked Herod happened to be the ruler and got the silent treatment, ultimately, does not really matter too much in regard to the overall purpose. Regardless of who it was, Christ was going to give them the silent treatment. Acts 8:32-35 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: 33 in his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
  10. I tend to agree that it could use a better title or structure in regards to being a systematic theological doctrine. Most likely just a subset of the doctrine of sin. Reprobate simply being the point in which God gives them over to their own devices and allowing their lust towards sin to take it's course. I tend to be of the persuasion that even at that point God can allow for some such persons to "come to their senses" and we cannot, on our end, truly know if God has "blinded for a time" or forever determined someone to be un-savable before death. Much of what is commonly taught about it can go to extremes in my opinion and I am not at all against keeping it in proper perspective of our command to preach to all regardless of what state God is dealing with a person in. Jesus after all was contending with people who could not hear his words and whom he called children of the devil so.... Matthew 19:25-26 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
  11. The doctrine is sound. However, the application of some people may not be. For example the Great commission does not have a Reprobate clause but some try to use it as an excuse not to preach the gospel to all creatures. Additionally, a reprobate is primarily a heart issue and while becomes apparent over time outwardly does not always directly relate to outward appearances. So to claim one individual is a reprobate based on the general grope tenancy to be reprobate is not a good practice. That is why even for a Heretic, apparent reprobates, or etc. we still give a few attempts to reach them then move on to those who actually want to hear the truth. Titus 3:8-11 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
  12. What you are alluding to is the "Doctrine of Reprobates." A reprobate is some one who knows the truth of salvation but consistently rejects it and God anyway. Basically the only reason lost people (the children of men) even consider God is because God is actively drawing their attention. If that person humbles themselves to the drawing of God then God will save them (and make them His sons) but over time if that person, while knowing the truth, constantly resists and insist on going their own way then God will let them go by handing their consistence over to themselves. Once "on their own" their lust to sin will warp their mind and harden/blind them to salvation. Its not that they "can no longer be saved" but that once God gives them up, they will have no desire to be saved and will spiral deeper in to more gruesome sins. It is the rare person who can be brought back from this reprobate spiral into death but not impossible (of course it could be debated that such a person brought back was not yet given over, but I digress in that squabble). However, It is my belief that once God gives them up they then have the option of becoming a "child of the devil", which at that point, if they do, they can never be saved because not only will they have no desire for salvation but, as a child of the devil, now have a strong desire to DESTROY anything Godly. James 4:5-7 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. James 1:13-16 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren. Isaiah 57:15-21 For thus saith the high and lofty Onethat inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. 16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him. 20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. 21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked. Romans 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. John 12:39-41 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. 41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him. John 8:31-59 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. 52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. 1 Timothy 1:12-13 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 13 who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
  13. The way things are going that may not actually be a problem anymore. The Anti-Christ could just simply Self Identify as a "33 1/2 year old middle eastern male" and societal norms would demand everyone accept it as that person's "truth".
  14. For one, everybody will love the Anti-Christ. It will be someone that could deceive the very elect if God was not protecting their minds. Trump is not that well liked to be the Anti-Christ.
  15. I like how Paul the apostle stated it in Ephesians: Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Works do not save us but salvation makes us able to work as God wanted us to be able to work. The lost person cannot work at all for spiritual things, much less for salvation. The lost boaster of "works" get nothing from God but humble sinners are saved just by asking for it. Luke 18:10-14 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. James 4:5-7 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.