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AdamL

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  1. Is the KJVO "movement" dying?

    I believe there is a big difference between preaching a sermon from I Timothy chapter 2 on modest dress or Titus chapter 2 on worldliness and reading 1 or 2 verses of Scripture and then screaming about women wearing pants. That was my point. Both my wife and my daughter only wear skirts and dresses. I threw away all of my rock and roll and worldly music about 8 months after I got saved. These changes happened because through studying the Scriptures the Holy Spirit taught me and I brought these things to my wife and we studies them together and made a decision to obey. I am in the Navy so I do quite a bit of traveling. Whenever I am traveling for work or on vacation I find a local church to go to wherever I am. I also have been recommended many preachers and watched and listened to sermons online. There are some very good preachers from the samplings I have had but there is also a great number that will read a passage and never reference it again and scream about their pet peeves or tell stories for 45 minutes. That is not preaching and it is certainly not doing anything for the Body of Christ.
  2. Is the KJVO "movement" dying?

    I apologise if the term "ifb movement" is offensive to you. I certainly agree that that is not the way it is supposed to be at all. However when the vast majority of pastors of IFB churches are influenced and taught through the Jack Hyles method of ministry, through the college or his Pastor's school, that is what we have ended up with. I think the question is how do we get out of the mess that has been created?
  3. Is the KJVO "movement" dying?

    I may get ostracized for this but I am going to share my opinion anyway... The King James Only Movement is tied to Independent Fundamental Baptists. Other than some snake handling type charismatics and Mormons I cannot think of any other groups that exclusively use the KJV (although I would feel confident in saying they do not believe the KJV is the word of God). Because the two are tied together what effects 1 will effect the other. It is my personal opinion that the IFB movement is floundering. In my opinion the movement was supported by strong personalities that were able to rally large followings behind them. Men like Jack Hyles, Tom Malone, Lester Roloff, etc. These men had huge ministries, many with large Bible colleges. These men are gone and what happened to their ministries? They are gone as well. Midwestern is now basically an online correspondence school, Tennessee Temple is gone, First Baptist Hammond (Hyles-Anderson) is a shell of what it used to be. Scandals that followed some of these men did not help matters any. This leads me to a glaring conclusion, these ministries were built upon men, not upon Jesus Christ. Now that these Giants in the movement are gone those that learned under them are for the most part unwilling to adapt to changing cultures and instead parrot what they have been taught without being able to attract followers the way their predecessors did. Adapting does not mean compromising. In order to adapt we don't have to change the Bible version we use, we don't have to bring in guitars and drums and huge electronic screens. We might want to consider changing the way we are reaching people. We might want to consider leaving behind shallow topical preaching that is just screaming about women wearing pants or that the movie theater is the devil's playground. We might want to consider actually teaching the Bible and engaging people that have questions and are searching for answers. We might want to consider actually presenting who God is and what the Gospel is to people instead of rushing through the Romans Road and trying to get the person you just woke up on a Saturday morning to pray a prayer. Shallow preaching, weak evangelism, and refusal to change our methods will finish off what is left of the IFB movement. When we send missionaries out to foreign lands do we expect them to do things exactly the same way we do them here in America? I surely hope not. We have seen evidence from this board that knocking on doors is not culturally acceptable in certain countries, in some places it may even be illegal. So our missionaries find different ways to reach people. Why can't we do that here? Why must we continue to go door knocking every Saturday morning at 10 am regardless of the fact that only 1 out of 10 people answer the door and that 1 doesn't care what you have to say? I will tell you that with this Millennial Generation that is coming up the only way you will reach them is to be able to answer their questions. Answers like this is the way it is or do it because I said so is not going to go anywhere with them. They are not going to listen to someone read a passage from the Bible and then scream about women wearing pants and rock music for 45 minutes never referencing the biblical passage again. You can say well then forget them we don't need them. But that is not going to work for the church in America. If the church in America is to continue then we must reach them or we will go the way the church in Europe has gone. Would anyone have thought 400 years ago that missionaries would be going into Europe? Well if we keep up the way we are going missionaries are going to be coming to America instead of being sent from her. If the IFB movement dies or floats off into obscurity the kjvo movement will as well. God's word will still be preserved and available but who will carry it forward? To continue to give God's word to a lost and dying world we must find new ways to reach people and teach them the Bible. Once we reach them God and the Gospel will do the work like He has for 2,000 years. The Romans Road is not the Gospel and very few to any new creatures in Christ will be made using it. And to present the Gospel you have to actually engage lost people. Our churches have to quit swapping members but convert the lost and disciple them in sound doctrine. All of this is my opinion. I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I believe the King James Bible is God's word. I am disgruntled and frustrated. I want to see a stop to a reliance on man's way and a revival of God's way.
  4. God is the Trinity. Godhead does not mean Trinity it means divine. The general revelation of God to man does not reveal the Trinity but it does reveal that there is a God. Special revelation (the Bible) reveals the Trinity. The person of the Son was manifested in the flesh. He is fully Divine The Father and the Spirit were not manifested in the flesh but they also are fully Divine. Colossians 2:9 says that the Son of God in the flesh was fully Divine.
  5. I am aware of that image. I do not display any images like that or pictures of Jesus. Like you stated I also do not believe it is appropriate to do so. I believe you are creating your own definition for the use of the word in Colossians 2:9. The verse means that Jesus Christ is fully God. He is Deity. As far as what exactly Paul preached in Acts 17:18 we don't have all the details. He certainly could have been preaching the Trinity, it mentions specifically that he preached Jesus and His resurrection. Again I believe you are inserting a definition you like into Acts 17:29. I have already gone over what I believe the verse is teaching. Carrying on your logic you would have to say that in Romans 1:20 that the general revelation of God to man through the creation clearly reveals that not only does God exist but He is a Trinity. I don't think the Trinity is clearly revealed without the special revelation of the Bible. General revelation clearly reveals that their is a God and because of that men are accountable to Him. That verse is clearly talking about the general revelation of God. The word Godhead is translated from a different Greek word in each if these three instances. Each of those three words either convey a divine being, a divine nature, or being divine/deity. They do not specifically reveal that God is Triune. Like you previously mentioned the word Trinity is not in the Bible. So in order to teach it we must find it in Scripture. 1 John 5:7 is obviously the clearest description, however it is not the only one. We cannot create our own definitions for a word to teach a doctrine we believe in though.
  6. I have no problem whatsoever with the Trinity. I believe it, I support it, I teach it. There are many many things in the Bible that come in threes and you have listed a plethora. What I am saying is that the word Godhead does not mean Trinity. It is talking about Divinity. Romans 1:20 is talking about the power and divine nature of God. That from the creation those things are fully evident and mankind is without excuse. Colossians 2:9 is talking about the full Divine nature that was in Christ. The Father, Son, and Spirit were not walking around on the earth in the flesh, the Son was. But the fullness of Deity and the full Divinity of God was in Christ. I believe in Acts 17:29 Paul is simply saying that God is not gold, silver, or stone. He cannot be made by man. The true and living God is the one that created us not the other way around. And He commands all men to repent. Those are my thoughts. You and anyone else are certainly entitled to disagree. There are examples upon examples that show God is Triune. I just don't think Godhead is a good one to show that.
  7. I reserve the right to be wrong here but I believe that the use of the word Godhead is speaking to the Divine nature/Divinity of God. Not necessarily that God is triune. I believe 100% in the Trinity but I am not sure that the word Godhead is the best way to prove it.
  8. I received a message from my friend Doug Devine from Pensacola. He will be heading to Papua New Guinea to work with our mutual friends the Florence family. He is an older gentleman and a very firm believer in the power of prayer. He is going to PNG for an undetermined amount of time to be a help to the Florence family in any way he can. Please for him, the Florence family, and for PNG. If anyone would like more info about this ministry please contact me directly.
  9. new member here

    Welcome. Thank you for being a witness for Christ. Do you belong to a local church that may have brothers willing to go out and witness with you?
  10. Beekeeping

    I have seen this hive and read some about it. It does use plastic. From reviews I have read beekeeping purists absolutely hate it. They say it is much worse for the bees this way and that the traditional way of opening the hive is much better for the bees and for your understanding of how the hive is doing. With this flow hive there is basically no interaction between you and the bees. I have no idea if they have a point or not. The flow hive certainly looks easier but I don't know anywhere near enough to speak intelligently about it. Just read a few articles about that type of hive.
  11. If you have one practical tip you can share

    Do not forget about people that you have visited. If someone makes a profession of faith follow up with them for discipleship. I have come back to people and brought them a Bible and had their name but on the front along with some of literature about basic doctrine. Encourage them to come to church. Pray for them. If they show no interest when you come back or reject you then don't push the issue or get upset with them, pray for them and make sure they have your churches info if things change.
  12. Beekeeping

    I definitely appreciate all the info and suggestions! I live in North Florida. I found a bee keeping association in my county so I will try to get in touch with them about equipment and bees, etc. The cold weather probably won't be as much of a concern here. We generally only get down to freezing a couple times per winter and then it goes back up to the 50s or 60s. Once I get some more info and start trying to setup I will post more for those that are interested. Hopefully some pictures too.
  13. Beekeeping

    Does anyone keep bees? I have never done it and looking for some advice. I have done some research on langstroth hives. What things are needed to get started? How do you know if the hive is doing well or sick? How often and how much honey is harvested and how do you make sure you don't take too much? Anyone that has any experience I would be all ears. Thanks!
  14. Canning Help

    Thank you for the information.
  15. Canning Help

    I am wanting to start canning with my wife but I am kind of at a loss as of where to start. I have researched pressure canners some but am not sure exactly what to buy or other methods of doing it. I am wanting to can vegetables and meat if that makes any difference. Anyone that has experience that wouldn't mind sharing I would really appreciate it.
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