Disciple.Luke

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  1. Very true quote. I see the "Christian" ranks diving in my own city. I have noticed that the traditional more "moderate" churches are mostly attended by Seinor Citizens who have been devoted to that specific congregation for a life time, but are not attracting middle aged worshippers (unless they turn Sundays into a rock concert and never mention sin in sermons). I know of a church that had 500 regular attenders just a little over two years ago, but have dwindled to 300 hundred because 200 people died of old age during those two,years. The IFB church I attend is growing rapidly with pews filled with members of every age group. There is no middle ground any more. If you believe in the Basic Fundamental Christian teachings there are only a few churches left to choose from. At the same time the liberals are looking for like minded congregations where faith is viewed as some historic tradition, so they don't have to feel guilty about living a lifestyle contrary to Biblical teachings.
  2. I see. I didn't know your post was in reply to another thread topic. Thanks for the clarification.
  3. Are you saying that only the wicked dead before the flood went to the spirit prison, or just they are the only ones Christ went and preached to? Please know I'm not being critical or trying to stump you. I'm just trying to understand what exactly the context is of your first post.
  4. I assume that the "abyss" mentioned in Luke 8:31 is the same place as the spirit prison? In Luke's account they seemed to fear being sent there during Jesus' lifetime?
  5. Your reasoning is what is illogical. Billy Graham is only a sinful human like everyone else, and that's why we have to examine our beliefs daily to make sure our beliefs fall in line with the Bible. Even if an angel from heaven comes down preaching a "different" gospel, we would have to reject it as false teaching. Even if, as you say, that false statements outside the pulpit don't really count as his personal beliefs, that would just make him look like a hypocrite and a liar. I respect Billy Graham, but he isn't infallible when it comes to doctrine and theology.
  6. If it is true that he is suffering from some kind of mental illness due to old age, then his ministry needs to keep him from speaking in public. His quotes about people getting in to heaven apart from saving faith in Jesus, are killing us in personal evangelism. His name alone nearly makes him an "authority" on salvation to many people who are biblically illiterate. When Billy Graham says something, his name trumps mine in a discussion about salvation. So it's not uncommon to have someone tell me "well Billy Graham says....". I want Billy Graham to finish the race well, and not let his "feelings" on a subject take precedence over the Bible.
  7. Watchtower literature says that the Jewish faith believed in a common grave (soul sleep), but they were influenced by the Greeks which led to the immortal soul belief. I have watched several YouTube videos of Christian's attempting to evangelize JWs, and it is unimpressive to say the least. I believe our approach is all wrong. Many Christians start conversations with JWs thinking that if they convince them that heaven is open to everyone not just 144,000, they will get excited and leave the Society. The problem is most JWs DONT want to go to heaven. They want to live on a paradise earth with their resurrected wives, moms,dads, children, etc.. To go to heaven for a JW means you transform into some weird immortal invisible "spirit creature" apart from their families.
  8. You were led to this site by searching for commentary on 2 Kings 5? Im no expert on the 4th and 5th chapter of 2 Kings, but verse 27 seems to answer your question. 27 The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.
  9. I agree with Brother Jim. I am not sure why you would bring this subject up in the Introduction section, but since this is an IFB forum I doubt anyone disagrees with the content in your post. Whatever that font is in the blue letters is nearly impossible to read. Welcome to the forum.
  10. I agree with your assessment that LDS theology has changed. Yes, Brigham Young taught the Adam-God doctrine, but that belief died shortly with him. The problem is that the Mormons are trying to appear more orthodox to the public, but under the surface they still hold to many of the past beliefs. President Joseph Fielding Smith is widely considered to be the "authority" of defining LDS doctrine. My first calling in the LDS was 2nd counselor in the Sunday School Presidency, and my responsibilities (along with the 1rst counselor) was to learn LDS doctrine, and keep a watchful ear for false doctrine being taught in the Sunday School classes and report back to the Sunday School President. It's in these classes where most non-mormons won't hear the actual doctrines being taught. Your comment about there being "more true doctrine in the Book of Mormon" is also accurate. In fact, the break away group, now called the Community of Christ are trinitarian because they rejected Brigham Young as successor and do not hold the Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Convenants as scripture. Interestingly, this is the group that Joseph wife, Emma followed and Joseph's Smiths children were considered his rightful successors.
  11. Correct. The letter was proven to be a forgery and the man (I can't remember the forger name, Mark Hoffman maybe?) was arrested for selling other forged documents and admitted the Salamander letter was a fraud. Regardless the incident revealed two important things about the LDS church. 1. Their Prophet wasn't able to foresee that it was a scam before authorizing a large payment for the letter. 2. It reveals how quickly they try to cover up their often embarrassing past by buying up all the available records to hide forever in their vault. Mormons acknowledge that Jesus is the same as Jehovah in the Old Testament. They believe the Father of Jesus (and us all) goes by the name Elohim and he is the one who came to have physical sex with Mary.
  12. Very accurate! The LDS Church is compartmentalized in a very similar way, but I believe they are even tighter in structure from the top down.
  13. I remember reading Erwin Lutzer re telling a conversation he had with a "popular woman Pastor who skillfully blends Christianity with the New Age movement...". He pointed out how her answers seemed very orthodox to his first several questions he posed to her. As he persisted with his questions he eventually forced her to define her doctrine with more precision until she finally revealed that "When I speak about Christ, I am not speaking about Jesus of Nazareth". He never revealed her name, but I suspect there are many people being deceived by false doctrines without even realizing it. This is why I get annoyed when I ask someone a question who claims to be a "Christian", and their response starts with "My Pastor says" or "My church believes.." instead of "The Bible says...". Too many people in the pews have become Biblically illiterate. Thanks for your testimony!
  14. I would consider a stubborn attitude toward asking for help a form of pride. James 4:6King James Version (KJV) 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Proverbs 8:13King James Version (KJV) 13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
  15. Ukulelemike - Your friend is absolutely correct about evils behind Mormonism. When you first join the church all you hear over and over is how great and peaceful going inside a temple is, but they a forbidden to talk about the actual rituals in public. Immediately they teach how to find your dead ancestors names to prepare to take to "new convert group baptisms". When I joined there wasn't a temple in Indiana yet, so a female convert, the Bishop, The High Priest group leader and myself made the trip to the Columbus, Ohio temple. The temples are beautiful on the outside but I will never forget how something felt terrible wrong once we got inside. If it would've just been me feeling that way I would've just brushed it off, but almost immediately the female convert whispered how it felt evil "like walking into a horror film". Eventually I started searching the web looking for information about what happens during the other rituals, and that was the beginning of the end for me. I found out about the two secret handshakes you have to know to pass through the gates of heaven. And things like how the "sacred" undergarments (Mormon underwear) had Freemason type symbols embroidered on them. Ive experienced the life of being a Mormon and it's either the stupidest religion ever created by man, or false worship that originated in hell.