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Is Joel Osteen a preacher or a motivational speaker? lol

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#21 candlelight

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:45 PM

Joel Osteen is no Bible Believing preacher.  He promotes false doctrine by his motivational talks.  He denies the deity of Jesus Christ and should be marked as a False Prophet.  Sadly, many in the world listen to his "so called" sermons and swallow the garbage that he spews out of his mouth.  I don't believe he is saved.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:19 PM

I noticed that "huckster" (I think that's the English word for a snake-oil salesman) is not an option.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:56 PM

When has Osteen denied Jesus is God? I've not heard that before.

 

I've only listened to him once, it was a recording of an event he did in Florida a year or two ago. He did present the biblical Gospel at that time, but the rest of the message he gave was a mix of watered down preaching and motivational speaking.

 

I've read some of his writings, and the Gospel was there in its most basic form and everything else was watered down motivationalism. I did notice that his writings got more watery as time went on.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:49 PM

I seem to recall him trying to avoid the topic of Hell during an interview on a talk show.

He is just a motivational speaker at best....motivates me not to watch or listen to him.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:07 PM

On more than one occasion Osteen has dodged or attempted to dodge some of the "tough" things; including hell, homosexuality, etc.

 

However, on the rare occasions when an interviewer won't let him get away with a dodge, so far from what I've read he's eventually stated that he holds to what the Bible says about the matters but that he doesn't want to focus on them.

 

He's afraid of controversy and like many others he thinks popularity is important to open doors for more people to hear the Gospel. Billy Graham, Rick Warren and many others have chose that path too.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:23 PM

When has Osteen denied Jesus is God? I've not heard that before.

 

I've only listened to him once, it was a recording of an event he did in Florida a year or two ago. He did present the biblical Gospel at that time, but the rest of the message he gave was a mix of watered down preaching and motivational speaking.

 

I've read some of his writings, and the Gospel was there in its most basic form and everything else was watered down motivationalism. I did notice that his writings got more watery as time went on.

 While Osteen may believe Jesus is God, that doesn't mean he is saved.  I have watched him more than once and he is a motivational preacher not a preacher that speaks the truth about the Bible, John.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:03 PM

I watched him one time because I was teaching on false prophets. Has anyone paid any attention to the chant that he has the whole congregation to recite before the message? They use the word "I" lo less than 12 times. It sounded like Satan when he decided to overthrow the throne, or something that Nebuchadnezzer would do. Freaky.

 

My advice.....stay away from the kool-aid



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 03:05 AM

 the only way the Lord would ever be present at his mega church would be to tell someone to flee this place, " a pastor he's not " he's a deceiver leading his followers to hell   " we need to pray for him and his followers"



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 08:07 PM

That junk shouldn't be posted here TGL; and you should stop watching it too!   :knuppel:



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 12:56 AM

I watched him one time because I was teaching on false prophets. Has anyone paid any attention to the chant that he has the whole congregation to recite before the message? They use the word "I" lo less than 12 times. It sounded like Satan when he decided to overthrow the throne, or something that Nebuchadnezzer would do. Freaky.

 

My advice.....stay away from the kool-aid

 

I think the chant at the beginning is something his father John did when he was running the "ministry". I used to visit my mother(deceased) who would have him on all the time and both of my sisters still watch him. They say they love how he gives them hope and blessings from God and they often cannot turn the channel.  They are that captivated! And this is scary as he is very charismatic to millions of others.  Too bad he wasn't a real IFB minister that stood for what the Bible says instead of a being a motivational speaker.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 04:26 AM

the only way the Lord would ever be present at his mega church would be to tell someone to flee this place, " a pastor he's not " he's a deceiver leading his followers to hell " we need to pray for him and his followers"


I think I need a little Osteen after last Sunday's condemnation sermon.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 06:59 AM

Whoever the preacher, they need to be led by the Holy Ghost and they need to boldly proclaim the Word of God.

 

Those preachers who water down their sermons, who refuse to preach certain biblical matters, are extremely dangerous; as are those preachers who set up their pet peeves or some certain point as the focus of most all their sermons.

 

The whole Word needs to be proclaimed. Preach the truth that homosexuality is sin, but be sure to preach the whole truth, which includes the fact Christ died for all sinners, including homosexuals, and like other sinners, homosexuals can also be made new in Christ.

 

Be clear that adultery is sin and it's sin for men as well as women. Preach the biblical truth about divorce, but make sure divorce isn't presented as the unpardonable sin. Point men and women, single, married, separated and divorced to Christ. Do so in love with the hope they will yield to the work of the Holy Ghost in their lives.

 

We have far too many preachers out there today who either want to tickle the congregation with a feather or bring a sledge hammer to the pulpit so they can hammer the congregation.

 

We need more men of God to step to the pulpit with Bible in hand boldly proclaiming the whole counsel of God out of a heart of love pointing to the only way of salvation and the only way to right living through Christ.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 01:48 PM

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 04:08 PM

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:39 AM

Joel Osteen's Megachurch Robbed: $600,000 Goes Missing

 

Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Houston was robbed of nearly $600,000 in cash and checks last weekend. The donations were collected in services Saturday and Sunday.

 

The theft wasn’t discovered until 8:30 a.m. Monday, when a church worker and off-duty Harris County Sheriff’s officer noticed the break-in, MyFoxHouston.com reports.

 

Lakewood has asked anyone who attended services last weekend to pay close attention to their accounts and immediately report any suspicious activity. The church has assured members this was not a data breach and is limited to donations made last weekend.

 

“We are working with the police to fully investigate the incident,” the church said in a statement. “The funds were fully insured, and we are working with our insurance company to restore the stolen funds to the church.”

 

Nearly 45,000 people attend services at Lakewood Church every week.

 

http://www.charisman...00-goes-missing



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:30 AM

This is terrible!  $600,000 in one Sunday service?  Not that I would want my church to become a mega church, but $600,000 would be a nice number to build on our property.

I hope they find the thieves.  



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:31 AM

$15 per person??????

I thought they would better at ripping people off than that...

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:06 AM

If I am correct his ministry just filed a theft case that some one stole $600,000 dollars last weekend from his ministry.  I just couldn't see this being done seeing that he has such a large staff and supposedly multiple accountability levels for those who handle the tithes and offerings.

 

What got me was they had insurance to cover stolen money.

 

Seems to me this may be an insurance scam.


Edited by AVBibleBeliever, 12 March 2014 - 02:57 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

One news report I heard said the money was stolen from a safe. Banks are closed on Sunday so the money is typically put in the safe until it can be put in the bank on Monday.

 

The insurance wasn't just for money, it was insurance that covers theft and such.

 

At the moment, there is no reason to view this as a scam.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:15 PM

$15 per person??????

I thought they would better at ripping people off than that...

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Osteen doesn't preach that if you don't tithe you are under a curse and in sin.






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