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#1 The Glory Land

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:01 AM

At what age can a child come to Christ for Salavation?   :popcorn:



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:04 AM

There is no "set" age.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

At what age can a child come to Christ for Salavation?   :popcorn:

 

What do you think?



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:11 AM

What do you think?

 

I say around 10,  before 13, this age is when sin really starts kicking in. :(



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:15 AM

What do you think?

 

 

Hey, I ask the questions around here...  :verymad:  :preggo:



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:15 AM

Not before they've heard -- that puts some of them fairly old.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:17 AM

When they can truly understand sin, salvation, repentence, the Gospel message, etc. This is different for every individual. I've heard 7 yrs olds articulate the Gospel better than 25 yr olds. Setting an arbitrary number is a dangerous practice in my humble opinion.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:18 AM

I say around 10,  before 13, this age is when sin really starts kicking in. :(

 

Sin kicks in at birth.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:19 AM

When they can truly understand sin, salvation, repentence, the Gospel message, etc. This is different for every individual. I've heard 7 yrs olds articulate the Gospel better than 25 yr olds. Setting an arbitrary number is a dangerous practice in my humble opinion.

 

Can the parents add this pressure to them?


Edited by The Glory Land, 22 October 2013 - 11:33 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:20 AM

Psa 58:3  The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. 


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:22 AM

Can the perants add this pressure to them?

You can pressure someone into going through the motions, it is impossible to pressure someone into trust.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:24 AM

You can pressure someone into going through the motions, it is impossible to pressure someone into trust.

 

True, trust and obey.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:25 AM

Can the perants add this pressure to them?

 

Certainly, but so can preachers and Sunday School teachers. You also can't assume that a child who knows and understands the Gospel is a result of negative pressure. It's just as likely, or more likely, that it's a result of positive teaching and the parents taking their responsibilities of raising their children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord seriously. All in all, I'm not sure how anyone could consider a child knowing and understanding the Gospel to be a bad thing.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:37 AM

 

Psa 58:3  The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. 

 

Yikes!  Henry come quick with the Holy Water.... our infant just lied to me!!!

I said that in sarcasm, and yet the Bible declares that infants can and do indeed speak lies as soon as they are born.  But how do they speak lies not even being able to articulate words in our language yet?

We do not know.  But God says they do.  Perhaps it is in their crying.  Perhaps in their actions.  All we know is that they speak lies even from a very young age.



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Posted 22 October 2013 - 07:47 PM

I think many are never saved because they are never confronted, & asked to make a choice. This would probably be more so for those who never attended church regularly.

 

Wonder how many Sunday school teachers of our younger ones does not understand how to lead someone to Christ?



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:44 AM

I often wonder about this, it seems to be another of those unrevealed mysteries.  Think of the world in the time of Noah; God destroyed the babies as well as the teens and adults.  Perhaps upbringing IS the key.  The infants in Noah's day were not any more enlightened than babes are today, and yet they perished in the flood.  Judgment fell on ALL of them, and only Noah's family survived. Their parents made the decision for them, a mystery indeed.

 

It may be similar to asking "What is the age of death?"


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:54 AM

Yes, babies died in the flood. The children of those who followed Korah(sp?) dropped down into a pit and died. Many babies die young today, many are miscarried and stillborn. But there's a whole world of difference between physical death and eternal damnation. 

 

9For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

 

At what time could Paul have been "alive" and later "died"? I could be wrong, but I suspect it was when he was an innocent child, with no concept of right and wrong, very similar to the original state of Adam and Eve, But when Junior is told "No, No NO" and Junior does it anyway, at some point the child disobeys the "law", commits his first sin, and "dies" spiritually, just like Paul says he did. Am I far off here? And after the child becomes a willful sinner, and can understand sufficiently, he needs salvation. The Bible gives no certain age for this.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:33 PM

Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

 

Ro 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

 

That's about what the Bible teaches.



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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:04 PM

I suppose it remains a question, but wasn't the flood a symbol of the eternal judgment of God, and not merely physical death? 

 

Babies are born with a sin nature (the will to sin) and will sin from their mothers womb (potentially).  If sin is accounted for at the new born level isn't judgment also demanded?

 

Not wishing to argue the point, in fact I hope there is an "age of accountability", but the Bible is not clear on it.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:58 AM

I suppose it remains a question, but wasn't the flood a symbol of the eternal judgment of God, and not merely physical death?

Babies are born with a sin nature (the will to sin) and will sin from their mothers womb (potentially). If sin is accounted for at the new born level isn't judgment also demanded?

Not wishing to argue the point, in fact I hope there is an "age of accountability", but the Bible is not clear on it.





Or you can use the understanding of Sex. At what age does a child understands Sex?




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