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#1 2T3:16

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:09 PM

I walked down the driveway to the house. A gentleman was outside. I greeted him and offered him the tract. He said "get off my property or I will call the police" , I said "yes sir" then to my back as I was leaving he yelled at me "I said get off my property or I will call the police" (he might have said "I'm calling the police"), ..... since I was already walking ... I stopped, turned around, said, "yes sir" ... and turned back around while he was yelling "I'm calling the police" and calmly walked off his property. What was my legal responsibility? Anybody suggest how to handle a situation like that?

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:25 PM

I would say that you did the only thing you could do. It was his property, he is allowed to tell you to get off his property. And you did as he asked.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:17 PM

When asked, or told, to leave the right response is as you said, "yes, sir" and then leave. The only thing different I might have done was add "have a good day" along with the "yes, sir", and then I would have walked away with no further comment and no stopping.

 

Some folks are going to be gruff and antagonistic toward us. Best to leave them be, pray the Lord will send someone they will hear, and move on.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:37 AM

You weren't wearing that jumper were you?

 

There's nothing else really to do, say goodbye and walk away.  The sidewalk is not his but I wouldn't stay in front of his house and then be antagonistic.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:51 AM

You did the right thing.

 

I've had people tell me they didn't want to hear it, so I shut up and moved on. Most of the time people tell me they don't have time to talk. I hope they find time before its too late.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:14 AM

I agree with everyone else, you did the right thing. If someone is so vehemently opposed to the Gospel, Jesus said simply dust your feet off and walk away; take it to someone who's heart hasn't been so hardened. There's no use standing there to argue with someone like that because it just would have gotten worse from there.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:38 PM

Yep, I'm in agreement that you did the right thing.   I think even the turning around and answering was good, because speaking as one is walking away is, to me, disrespectful.  He was not courteous, but you were.  

 

I remember one time we knocked on a door.  A voice from inside yelled, "I've got a gun pointed right at you. Get off my porch or I'll shoot."  We didn't say good day, good-bye, yes sir, or anything.  We got off the porch.  :nuts:



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

Yikes!

About the worst I ever had was when a man angrily told me to leave and not come back. Then there was the woman I handed a tract to, who tore it up and dropped it on the ground. But then a friend of mine, I used to go on visitation with, had a man answer a screen door stark naked! :bigshock:



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

I've had a woman answer the door in a towel, a man in underwear, a dog turned loose on me, a pistol in my face and a bunch of people once run out the back of the house thinking we were the police!



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

Different areas of the country view visitation differently.  Where I live (northern midwest), arriving on a person's doorstep uninvited is considered rude. 



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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:03 PM

You weren't wearing that jumper were you?

 

There's nothing else really to do, say goodbye and walk away.  The sidewalk is not his but I wouldn't stay in front of his house and then be antagonistic.

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:10 PM

Different areas of the country view visitation differently.  Where I live (northern midwest), arriving on a person's doorstep uninvited is considered rude. 

That's how many look at it around here too.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:05 PM

That's how many look at it around here too.

In all fairness, I'm not thrilled when someone shows up at MY house unannounced, either.  :knuppel:  I do; however, try to be nice about it.  Our family knows me, though, it's like, "If you want me to put aside what I'm busy with (with soon to be 7 kiddos at home again, believe me, I would have stuff to lay aside!) then just give me a little ring first so that I can plan on wrapping up what I'm doing.  I'll make much better company that way, I promise."  When I've been out door-to-door I try to remind myself of that and keep it brief if the person seems busy......if I can just invite them to church and get a track in their hand, the Lord is able to work on the rest. 



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:15 PM

I've had a woman answer the door in a towel, a man in underwear, a dog turned loose on me, a pistol in my face and a bunch of people once run out the back of the house thinking we were the police!

:th_laugh1: 

Some of our guys once had a fellow answer the door without his shirt on. When asked whether he was good enough for heaven, he pointed at himself and said, "Well, of course - I'm perfect!"  :bigshock:  I always thought it was a good thing we girls hadn't got that door... I'm sure I would have broken out laughing at him. :lfpop:  



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:30 PM

     I may be considered a heretic when I say this but I believe that door-to-door "soul-winning" is a very ineffective method of witnessing (and I might add that it is not Biblical). You heard me right: I believe that there is no Biblical basis for door-to-door "soul-winning." The only verse that even comes close to being a proof-text for it is Acts 20:20 - "And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house," The only problem is that this verse applies to home Bible studies, not to witnessing.

 

     Here are the verses that we should be using: Luke 24:13-15 - "And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.  And they talked together of all these things which had happened.  And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them." As we travel in this life we are to talk publicly of the things of God to one another and to those that cross our paths. This is the most effective way of witnessing.

 

Sincerely,

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Edited by brosmith, 27 November 2013 - 04:32 PM.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:44 PM

     I may be considered a heretic when I say this but I believe that door-to-door "soul-winning" is a very ineffective method of witnessing (and I might add that it is not Biblical). You heard me right: I believe that there is no Biblical basis for door-to-door "soul-winning." The only verse that even comes close to being a proof-text for it is Acts 20:20 - "And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house," The only problem is that this verse applies to home Bible studies, not to witnessing.

 

     Here are the verses that we should be using: Luke 24:13-15 - "And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.  And they talked together of all these things which had happened.  And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them." As we travel in this life we are to talk publicly of the things of God to one another and to those that cross our paths. This is the most effective way of witnessing.

 

Sincerely,

Bro Steve Smith

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Fair enough. I don't always think it's particularly effective myself - but then it must get some results or the cults wouldn't do it! And as we have the Holy Spirit providing the increase, shouldn't we expect more than the simply human-powered results they see?

When you say that it is unBiblical, though, that makes it sound like it's wrong to do. I assume that's not what you meant?  There's nothing in the Bible about printing Bibles or passing out tracts or evangelistic web pages either, but such tactics aren't wrong to try. We are told to 'go into all the world and preach the gospel'... I suppose front doors could be part of that world too. :wink



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:04 PM

Fair enough. I don't always think it's particularly effective myself - but then it must get some results or the cults wouldn't do it! And as we have the Holy Spirit providing the increase, shouldn't we expect more than the simply human-powered results they see?

When you say that it is unBiblical, though, that makes it sound like it's wrong to do. I assume that's not what you meant?  There's nothing in the Bible about printing Bibles or passing out tracts or evangelistic web pages either, but such tactics aren't wrong to try. We are told to 'go into all the world and preach the gospel'... I suppose front doors could be part of that world too. :wink

 

     I used the word "unbiblical" because the majority of independent fundamental Baptist preachers have this idea that you are sinning if you don't go out knocking on doors. I wouldn't necessarily say that door-to-door "soul winning" is wrong but I do believe that it is a bad substitute for how we are supposed to be witnessing. Another bad substitute is the bus ministry. These things become an end unto themselves. A Christian may have a bad testimony at work or never witness to his neighbours or co-workers. But if he goes out door knocking or works on a bus route then he gets the false assurance that he is being a good witness for Christ. Living a consistent Christian life before the world and then giving a verbal witness as opportunities arise is not only the best way of soul-winning but it is the Biblical way.

 

Sincerely,

Bro Steve Smith

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:14 PM

Fair enough. I don't always think it's particularly effective myself - but then it must get some results or the cults wouldn't do it! And as we have the Holy Spirit providing the increase, shouldn't we expect more than the simply human-powered results they see?

 

     A little food for thought when it comes to the effectiveness of door-to-door "soul-winning":

 

     Any salesman worth his salt can get results. Spiritual results, however, are accomplished through spiritual methods. Back in the summers of 1981 and 1982 I was trained on how to get "results" at the door. The method is akin to high pressure sales. However, the end does not justify the means.

 

Sincerely,

Bro Steve Smith

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:29 PM

Yikes!

About the worst I ever had was when a man angrily told me to leave and not come back. Then there was the woman I handed a tract to, who tore it up and dropped it on the ground. But then a friend of mine, I used to go on visitation with, had a man answer a screen door stark naked! :bigshock:

My daughter once had a man answer the door who was naked, but she had a male church member with her who dealt with the situation.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:59 PM

I have had people answer naked.

Most of the time over here you end up putting it in the letterbox because there's no one home.
We had an american preacher visit and he was amazed at the number of houses we went to - because if someone did answer they said no and closed the door.
He said in his area that people were at least polite and chatted even if they weren't interested.

Here they don't mind being rude. :(

Edited by DaveW, 27 November 2013 - 08:00 PM.





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