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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:01 PM

Christian fellowship is the mutually beneficial relationship between Christians, who can’t have the identical relationship with those outside the faith.

The privilege that is Christian fellowship is that it exists because God has enabled it by His grace. Those who believe the gospel are united in the Spirit through Christ to the Father, and that unity is the basis of fellowship. This relationship is described in John 17:23 

This relationship must be the basis of Christian fellowship. We can have friendships and relationships with unbelievers, but true Christian fellowship can only occur within the body of Christ. We are united to one another by common beliefs, purposes and goals. We know that we are strangers in this world, and we long for the time when we will be in our true home, heaven.

The importance of true Christian fellowship helps us to focus on Christ and His desires and goals for us.  In true Christian fellowship, Christians sharpen one another's faith and stir one another to exercise that faith in love and good works, all to God’s glory.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:03 PM

Grace it would help us tremendously if we knew if your were a man or a woman.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:19 PM

Grace it would help us tremendously if we knew if your were a man or a woman.

What would that help with?  Why is it relevant?  I am a human Christian made in the image of God.  :-)



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

I agree...how is the gender of the poster even remotely relavent to the OP? It's either accurate and biblical or it isn't.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:41 PM

What would that help with?  Why is it relevant?  I am a human Christian made in the image of God.  :-)

Believe me it is relevant.  Most of the time it seems the writing is from a woman.  If we know that then we can answer accordingly.

 

Also this forum is an "assembly" of believers, we gather here for like minded fellowship, and if a woman is teaching, as you are doing, it is in direct disobedience to the word of God.  But if you are a male then all is ok.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:45 PM

if a woman is teaching, as you are doing, it is in direct disobedience to the word of God.  But if you are a male then all is ok.

You can take that up in another thread.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:51 PM

You can take that up in another thread.

always seems to be your answer to everything.

 

you Start a teaching thread and vaguely use scripture it tends to points to the fact that you may be a woman trying to teach men.

 

Why are you so defensive if someone asks whether you are a male of female.

 

Let me know what gender via PM if it is too difficult for you to do openly. 


Edited by AVBibleBeliever, 31 January 2014 - 01:52 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:55 PM

always seems to be your answer to everything.

 

you Start a teaching thread and vaguely use scripture it tends to points to the fact that you may be a woman trying to teach men.

 

Why are you so defensive if someone asks whether you are a male of female.

 

Let me know what gender via PM if it is too difficult for you to do openly. 

I choose not to be labeled, although I already have been negatively in other posts.  I believe I am "sharing."



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:59 PM

I will say you are a woman then.

 

though gender is not a label


Edited by AVBibleBeliever, 31 January 2014 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:01 PM

This is a forum, not a church. It has already been established in past threads that it is not inappropriate for women to teach in this setting - as it is not a church setting and they are not teaching with the spiritual authority of that church. That is the kind of teaching that is forbidden in Scripture. 



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:02 PM

This is a forum, not a church. It has already been established in past threads that it is not inappropriate for women to teach in this setting - as it is not a church setting and they are not teaching with the spiritual authority of that church. That is the kind of teaching that is forbidden in Scripture. 

I was going to say that.  Thank you.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:04 PM

This is a forum, not a church. It has already been established in past threads that it is not inappropriate for women to teach in this setting - as it is not a church setting and they are not teaching with the spiritual authority of that church. That is the kind of teaching that is forbidden in Scripture. 

a Christian forum is an gathering of Christians discussing topics and we are gathered in the same virtual room called forum.  But teaching or sharing a teaching is what it is.

 

Just because there were no Internet at the time of Paul doesn't change that fact that this is an assembling place of believers.

 

And the fact that you may be a woman who has authority over men does not change the fact you are in disobedience as well.

 

But my main reason for asking was to be able to reply accordingly


Edited by AVBibleBeliever, 31 January 2014 - 02:08 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:06 PM

I will say you are a woman then.

 

though gender is not a label

Well then I should say I don't want discrimination based on age, race, where I live, what church I belong to, etc.  Thank you for your respect in this matter.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:10 PM

Well then I should say I don't want discrimination based on age, race, where I live, what church I belong to, etc.  Thank you for your respect in this matter.

I noticed you didn't say Gender.  Very interesting and revealing Ms.

 

the Bible and the church (the body of Christ) does discriminate on gender


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

I wont comment then on your original Original Post.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:15 PM

I noticed you didn't say Gender.  Very interesting and revealing Ms.

 

the Bible and the church (the body of Christ) does discriminate on gender

I didn't need to since gender was the first thing you asked...I just added the other things I didn't want to be discriminated for.  You are not obligated to read my posts.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:27 PM

I noticed you didn't say Gender.  Very interesting and revealing Ms.

 

the Bible and the church (the body of Christ) does discriminate on gender

Acts 18:26



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

Acts 18:26

First I did not discriminate on your age, race or local fellowship but as far an in the Body of Christ I can discriminate against your gender when it comes to sharing a teaching.

 

Second, concerning the verse you quoted, you will notice that her husband was also there and that they had pulled him aside privately and not openly in the assembly.

 

This is an open forum.

 

Have a good day Maam.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

Acts 21:8-9 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

The Bible does not say a woman cannot preach, only that she cannot hold the office of Pastor/Bishop/Elder.

Ruckmanite's don't like Acts 18 or 21.  They expose the false stance they espouse.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:35 PM

1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Note that the Apostle did not say they could not prophesy, only that they could not prophesy with their heads uncovered without dishonouring their head.






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