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#81 John81

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

I don't remember the name of the pastor, but a new Christian once asked him about how to deal with having lost friends and the pastor told him not to worry about it. The pastor told the young man if he was living for Christ his lost friends would soon not want to be around him.

 

When the young man, who had been saved while away in the military, returned to his home and his lost friends showed up he found out just how right that pastor was. His lost friends didn't want to hear about his Saviour and Lord, they didn't want to hear the Gospel, they didn't want to hear about his life with Christ, and since he was no longer willing to do the sinful things they all used to do for fun, his lost friends were soon nowhere to be found.

 

One who is truly following Christ can't help but shine the light of Christ for others to see. They can't help but talk about their Saviour and Lord, they can't help but want to try and help those around them know Jesus, they can't help but share with them they are about to crash and need to change course.

 

If one wants to hide their Christianity, if one wants to keep silent about Jesus and doesn't care enough about the lost folks around them to warn them of danger, and if a professing Christian is willing to hang out with the lost and act much like them, then sure, they may have several lost friends.

 

Those who do this should pay heed to Scripture and make their calling and election sure. Then they should look to Scripture and be reminded that worldly friendliness isn't love; that true love is sharing the Saviour with the lost and warning them of the dreadful fate of being without Christ.

 

Our words, actions and lives are to be lived in such a way as to example Christ, drawing the lost to salvation and warning them of the danger they are in.

 

TODAY is the day of salvation. None of us knows when our time will be up. We don't know if ourselves or a lost person we know may die tonight; or if Christ may return before we meet again. Dare we delay in sharing Christ with the lost? Dare we put off warning the lost of what awaits them if they remain lost?



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:24 PM

Mrs. Arbo and I were not blessed with children, but if we were, I believe that the safety (spiritual, emotional, and physical) of our kids would be paramount in importance.  Though it is difficult to avoid them altogether, I'd want to protect them from their influence.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:21 AM

Then how do you give them the Gospel then? I mean, Jesus was attacked by the Pharisees for hanging out with " sinners"!! Jesus was involved with them to give them the Good News, but yet the Pharisees could show now compassion for the lost, the very same people He would hang on a cross for!!

 

Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:36 PM

Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.

Good point. Even though the new evangelicals on this board may not like it, This evening after work I will go out on the streets and pass out gospel tracts to strangers and will talk to them about the Lord. Since the new evangelicals won't do that, we as true believers should.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:22 PM

Good point. Even though the new evangelicals on this board may not like it, This evening after work I will go out on the streets and pass out gospel tracts to strangers and will talk to them about the Lord. Since the new evangelicals won't do that, we as true believers should.

How one chooses or is led to share the gospel is between that person and God.  Because someone doesn't go door to door or hand out tracts doesn't mean they are not sharing or are not "true believers."  This is going to be harsh...but is that how you spoke to your brother?



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

There is no "method" of sharing the gospel.  We are to share the gospel period.  Whatever way one chooses to share is better than not sharing at all.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:00 AM

No. Implore them to leave their vile life and if they refuse, tell your children to leave them with one final warning..."You are a hell bound walking dead carcass." The wages of sin IS death." Not "will be" death nor "soon to be" death...

 

The wages of sin "IS DEATH". You're already dead. Spiritually dead. A walking dead corpse waiting for the rotten flesh to expire then you will be a dead soul on their way to hell!

 

Sodomites repent or sodomites walk dead till they are dead. Christian have nothing to do with the filthy workers of iniquity!


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 04:06 AM

I have yet to find a homosexual who would like to be my friend!

If we are truly standing against homosexuality as clear as the Word of God does, would it be an issue?

We are to love the sinner but hate the sin. How can you hate the sin and accept it all at the same time? I, personally, wouldn't want to be friends with someone who couldn't accept the way I choose to live. For this very reason, my old "friends" don't accept us because we choose to live a separated life. Just doesn't sit well with most folk? I still love those people but our friendships have changed or barely exist.

But Proverbs 27:17 says "Iron sharpeneth iron: so a man sharpeneth the countanence of his friend." We are to witness to everyone, but at the same time, what you hang out with will affect you, even if you're actually trying to rub off on them. It may be all in good thinking, but it can lead to destruction. I'm not saying you should carry hate signs and shout condemnation, they are condemned already, as were we all. We can be friendly without reducing the Bible by having friends who want us to accept their perverted way of living.

As far as lost family, you can't choose family, but you do choose friends. My lost loved ones will be won (by God's grace) through my conversation (way of living) more than my closeness in our relationships. Do I compromise? Not at all. I can control what comes in my house, in front of my children! I don't have to go to their homes where things that are sin, according to the Lord's Word, take place. This is also why I homeschool our children.

  So to answer OP, No. My children are not allowed to hang with anyone who says they are gay. Or anything else that goes against the Bible. Even if it means cutting ties with family. They already know how we feel and why we feel this way, so there isn't much that needs to be cut. They know we love them dearly and we are here when they are ready to repent and turn from their wicked ways. I am not above anyone, 1Corinthians 6:9, 10,11, "but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Glory!) There is a change in me and I cannot tolerate those things I once was. I'll be here though. When they decide their way is not God's way. I talk to my brother a lot, he is a lost man. He was hurt by a church going person and since then he refuses to have anything to do with God. But he and his wife are very special but we aren't as close as my other brother who is saved. When my lost brother asks me something, he knows he is going to get the truth from the Bible but it is done with love and compassion.

 

Friendship isn't what is missing, it is the compassion for the soul bound in sin and headed for hell.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:09 AM

Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.

Can you show me where He rebuked them?



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:40 AM

Can you show me where He rebuked them?

 

Jesus's entire life, works, and words were a rebuke of the sinner.  I know even though I am a Christian when I look at Him, my life is rebuked.

 

God bless,

Larry



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:59 AM

As honebee pointed out, "I have yet to find a homosexual who would like to be my friend."

Years ago, my son and my ex-husband were going to a homosexual to get their hair cut.  I arrived to pick up my son one day in this man's shop.  After I left, the man asked my ex husband if I was a Born Again Christian.  No words were exchanged between me and this man, except "hello."  My ex husband told the man, "yes" and also asked him how he could tell.  The homosexual said, I can spot a Born Again Christian a mile away.

 

Since I have been saved, the only friends I have are other born again Christians.  In fact, two professing "friends" say they are born again, but still have a foot in the world.  I haven't spoken to either of them in over two years.  Therefore, the only friends I have are friends who are IFB.  I lost all contact with my unsaved friends when I trusted Jesus Christ as Personal Saviour.  They decided they didn't want to hang around me anymore.  That's alright with me, b/c I know my friends are women in my IFB church and surrounding IFB churches.  And, I also know that the closest friend I have, besides my husband, is the Lord Jesus Christ.    


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:10 AM

As honebee pointed out, "I have yet to find a homosexual who would like to be my friend."
Years ago, my son and my ex-husband were going to a homosexual to get their hair cut. I arrived to pick up my son one day in this man's shop. After I left, the man asked my ex husband if I was a Born Again Christian. No words were exchanged between me and this man, except "hello." My ex husband told the man, "yes" and also asked him how he could tell. The homosexual said, I can spot a Born Again Christian a mile away.

Since I have been saved, the only friends I have are other born again Christians. In fact, two professing "friends" say they are born again, but still have a foot in the world. I haven't spoken to either of them in over two years. Therefore, the only friends I have are friends who are IFB. I lost all contact with my unsaved friends when I trusted Jesus Christ as Personal Saviour. They decided they didn't want to hang around me anymore. That's alright with me, b/c I know my friends are women in my IFB church and surrounding IFB churches. And, I also know that the closest friend I have, besides my husband, is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Exactly....the lost/unsaved friends will usually stop being friends with one who is truly saved. Same for family. Of my family only my sister claims to be saved (she attends a Lutheran church), but one sure would not know it by her fruit...she is still deeply steeped in the world and sin. My brothers stopped communicating with me years ago after I was saved. My parents are communicating with me but are not saved, but have seen my life changed and my sisters hypocricy and ask questions from time to time.

Like you Candle, my family is comprised of Jesus, my wife and my church family.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

My husband told me long ago, that I would loose all my worldly friends.  He told me it is a part of being a follower of Jesus Christ.  I am happy to say that my husband has a large family, all of whom are saved.  He is the oldest of nine children.  They are included in my church family, as well.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:51 AM

My husband told me long ago, that I would loose all my worldly friends.  He told me it is a part of being a follower of Jesus Christ.  I am happy to say that my husband has a large family, all of whom are saved.  He is the oldest of nine children.  They are included in my church family, as well.


That's wonderful that his family is all saved.

I just found it amazing how I didn't have to do anything to "lose" lost friends, rather the quit associating with me when I began to follow Jesus and the Bible. I no longer have the desire (and also despise) for things such as alcohol, profanity, sinful music, and so on. I thank The Lord for all of that.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:00 AM

Luke 18:9-14



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:01 AM

That's wonderful that his family is all saved.

I just found it amazing how I didn't have to do anything to "lose" lost friends, rather the quit associating with me when I began to follow Jesus and the Bible. I no longer have the desire (and also despise) for things such as alcohol, profanity, sinful music, and so on. I thank The Lord for all of that.

 

I should say that some of my in-laws grandchildren aren't saved.  However, they are young.  

Same with me, Bob.  They know what I stand for and chose not to associate with me.  I thank the Lord, as well, b/c I don't want anything to do with their lifestyles.  I have planted seeds, and I leave the rest to God.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:04 AM

Luke 18:9-14

 

GS, you are missing out on something.  The unsaved who were once my friends, want nothing to do with me b/c I am a Born Again Christian.  



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:13 AM

GS, you are missing out on something.  The unsaved who were once my friends, want nothing to do with me b/c I am a Born Again Christian.  

I'm not referring to you but all the hypocritical, judgmental, so-called Christians on this forum who like to turn their noses up at people and think all are heretics who don't agree with them.  Think like me, act like me, dress like me, talk like me.  Sounds like a cult.  Whoever gets offended, well then the shoe must fit.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:21 AM

Luke 18:9-14


That's not it at all. Unsaved family and friends quit associating with me. I have made attempts at witnessing when the opportunity arose.
We are also called to be separate. One who is saved should not put him/herself intentionally into a situation where his/her testimony could be questioned, nor should he/she do, say or act as the worldly sinful world. One who truly loves Jesus will want to honor him and strive not to sin (although none of us are perfect) and strive to do ones best to glorify Him.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:24 AM

I'm not referring to you but all the hypocritical, judgmental, so-called Christians on this forum who like to turn their noses up at people and think all are heretics who don't agree with them.  Think like me, act like me, dress like me, talk like me.  Sounds like a cult.  Whoever gets offended, well then the shoe must fit.

 

I don't believe that if a person is not an IFB and does not hold to the KJV is a "heretic."  I believe that a person can be saved, using any Bible.  In fact, my MIL was saved when my husband was one years old, while she was holding him in a rocking chair.  A Pentacostal woman had been witnessing to her for some time.  She prayed to Jesus and He saved her right then and there.  I was saved, after many Christians had witnessed to me, in the hospital.  I trusted Jesus Christ as my Personal Saviour, after an Epileptic seizure.  I wanted to get in touch with my son.  He was with one of my lost friends.  It was that day that she decided she didn't want to associate with me anymore.  My son was staying the night at her house, as my ex husband let him.  She is a smoker, and I told her that I didn't want my child to be around a chain smoker anymore.  I never smoked, but for some reason the Holy Spirit convicted me to speak with her about it.  Thankfully, my unsaved ex husband complied with my request and picked him up right away.  He doesn't smoke, either.
 

I chose to be a member of an IFB church b/c I love the teaching.  I have studied Baptist history and believe the Lord led me to my church.  I also chose the KJV, b/c it is the only Bible that has ever made any sense to me.  I have read Modern Versions and I don't understand them.  


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