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Then you would get the worst of the basest of men.

Which is what has been happening as more and more people quit voting...

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One of the main prOBlems is that few voters would be willing to follow Dave's course. Those who most often tend to vote either voter Party, paycheck, pet issue or personality. A certain percentage of voters are going to vote Dem or Repub no matter who the candidate is or what they stand for. A larger percentage will vote according to who they think will somehow put more money in their pocket. Then there are those who have a pet issue and they will vote for any candidate who takes their side on that issue regardless of their position on other issues. The personality voters vary in percentage, with a surge of such voters who voted OBama, especially in his first run. These voters cast their votes based more on feelings than substance.

 

For decades we've watched the Republican Party continually moving more towards the Left and yet Christians and so called conservatives alike have been nearly unanimous in their declarations that if a candidate has a "R" by their name we must vote for them even if we disagree with them. We can see where that has got us.

 

An even bigger prOBlem comes in trying to get folks to cast ballots when they carry so much more weight and importance than even a general election ballot; and that's in primaries. LuAnne made mention of a primary above. Far fewer vote in primaries which means those few votes really count. Sometimes 10-20% of registered voters is all who vote in a primary and they are the ones who are actually selecting the candidate who will appear on the general election ballot.

 

Incumbents continue in office, despite their poor performance, simply because they have more money, more connections and manage to use these to get their supporters to vote in a primary. Meanwhile, any challenger, even if he's a great candidate, has to fight an uphill battle. Often if just a few percentage more voters would vote in a primary for the best candidate, that candidate would win. Instead, too many sit out the primaries and then complain about the terrible choices in the general election.

 

Two presidential cycles ago the GOP had something like nearly a dozen candidates competing in the primaries for president. Had even a simple majority of so-called conservative and Christian voters chosen any one of those candidates to give their full support from the beginning they could have seen their choice as the GOP candidate in the general election. Instead they argued, split their votes between several candidates, jumped from supporting one candidate to another at the slightest hint their candidate may have made a misstep or the media convinced them their candidate couldn't win against the Dems. This allowed the liberal and "moderate" voters to give us a liberal minded compromiser candidate who had no chance against a charismatic, solidly leftist Dem.

 

The Christian Right is becoming smaller and the GOP leadership has noted this as they have called for dropping issues that mainly appeal to the Christian Right. As they have reasoned, either the Christian Right will vote for them anyway, or if they don't they won't be voting Dem, so who cares.

 

When the Christian Right had the influence to do so they should have come up with a list of key or core principles they would not compromise on. They should have made it clear they wouldn't vote for any candidate who didn't hold to and vote for those points. Then they should have stuck to such.

 

Unfortunately, things went the other direction.

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Which is what has been happening as more and more people quit voting...

That is exactly what took place in 2012.  We should vote to try and get the best and the least basest person in.

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One of the main prOBlems is that few voters would be willing to follow Dave's course. Those who most often tend to vote either voter Party, paycheck, pet issue or personality. A certain percentage of voters are going to vote Dem or Repub no matter who the candidate is or what they stand for. A larger percentage will vote according to who they think will somehow put more money in their pocket. Then there are those who have a pet issue and they will vote for any candidate who takes their side on that issue regardless of their position on other issues. The personality voters vary in percentage, with a surge of such voters who voted OBama, especially in his first run. These voters cast their votes based more on feelings than substance.

 

For decades we've watched the Republican Party continually moving more towards the Left and yet Christians and so called conservatives alike have been nearly unanimous in their declarations that if a candidate has a "R" by their name we must vote for them even if we disagree with them. We can see where that has got us.

 

An even bigger prOBlem comes in trying to get folks to cast ballots when they carry so much more weight and importance than even a general election ballot; and that's in primaries. LuAnne made mention of a primary above. Far fewer vote in primaries which means those few votes really count. Sometimes 10-20% of registered voters is all who vote in a primary and they are the ones who are actually selecting the candidate who will appear on the general election ballot.

 

Incumbents continue in office, despite their poor performance, simply because they have more money, more connections and manage to use these to get their supporters to vote in a primary. Meanwhile, any challenger, even if he's a great candidate, has to fight an uphill battle. Often if just a few percentage more voters would vote in a primary for the best candidate, that candidate would win. Instead, too many sit out the primaries and then complain about the terrible choices in the general election.

 

Two presidential cycles ago the GOP had something like nearly a dozen candidates competing in the primaries for president. Had even a simple majority of so-called conservative and Christian voters chosen any one of those candidates to give their full support from the beginning they could have seen their choice as the GOP candidate in the general election. Instead they argued, split their votes between several candidates, jumped from supporting one candidate to another at the slightest hint their candidate may have made a misstep or the media convinced them their candidate couldn't win against the Dems. This allowed the liberal and "moderate" voters to give us a liberal minded compromiser candidate who had no chance against a charismatic, solidly leftist Dem.

 

The Christian Right is becoming smaller and the GOP leadership has noted this as they have called for dropping issues that mainly appeal to the Christian Right. As they have reasoned, either the Christian Right will vote for them anyway, or if they don't they won't be voting Dem, so who cares.

 

When the Christian Right had the influence to do so they should have come up with a list of key or core principles they would not compromise on. They should have made it clear they wouldn't vote for any candidate who didn't hold to and vote for those points. Then they should have stuck to such.

 

Unfortunately, things went the other direction.

We need to vote for the one most qualified and OBama was not qualified in anyway, it was a racial vote by all voters who voted for him.  So the next election is important that we vote not on party line but on who will do the best for our country.

 

I would vote for a candidate like Rubio, Crux and even Rand because they have a desire to serve the country above an agenda and they are not hooked into the machine politics.

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I would vote for a candidate like Rubio, Crux and even Rand because they have a desire to serve the country above an agenda and they are not hooked into the machine politics.

The only way any of those three will be on the general election ballot is if they make promises to "machine".  There will be no real choice come election day. 

The "machine" will control the outcome  as usual and the nation will continue on the path to depression and war.

 

No I am not a tea leaf reader, I am just a student of history.  Some say history repeats itself, some say it rhymes, I think it kinda goes around in circles like a whirlpool.  Our nation is in one, ever spiraling down into OBlivion.

 

I better stop now before I spiral into depression. :badday:

 

God bless,

Larry

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