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The Ordinances of Heaven

Job 38:33, “Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? An ordinance is an established law or rule.

Astronomer and mathematician, Johannes Kepler 1571-1630, verified that the sun and the planets are governed by scientific laws, or ordinances. Johannes Kepler was a devout Christian. Kepler believed that God created the universe as the Bible says He did.

Psalm 119: 90 & 91, “Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth. They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants.”  All of the ordinances of the physical universe were established by God. The ordinances of heaven include: the revolution of the earth the planets, the solar system, the revolution of the galaxy, and gravity. These ordinances were not understood throughout the centuries until scientists verified the ordinances of the solar system.

Johannes Kepler, and other scientists, has verified that the universe and all biological life is based on scientific fact. Evolution is based on randomness not verifiable scientific fact.

Jeremiah 31: 35-37, “Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.”

God established the ordinances of heaven, the physical universe, in Genesis chapter 1. These ordinances will continue until He creates the new heaven and the new earth: Isaiah 66: 22; 2 Peter 3:10-13 and Revelation 21:1

 

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Most people, even professing Christians, don't know this, don't know the various verses of Scripture which were scientifically accurate long before scientific man discovered such. Most just mindlessly spout off what they've heard from ungodly teachers, atheistic professors, the liberal media and fictional TV shows and movies.

It's amazing how often, both online and in person, people make false claims regarding the accuracy of Scripture as if what they declare is settled fact. Point out what Scripture actually says and most won't bother to check it out for themselves, they will just dismiss it or deny it.

It's good to remind ourselves God is Creator, and also all-knowing. God established all that is, was or ever will be. Imagine His own creation speaking as if they know more than God and as if their theories and attempts to sound brilliant are so far above the Word of God.

One of the things that struck me with so much awe and wonder after I was saved was my new appreciation for "nature". Suddenly I could see God's hand in all of creation and I remember the feelings within me to this day and how I praised God and thanked God so much and so often for the beauty and wonder of His creation.

Creation speaks to the fact of God and I'm glad you put forth this thread.

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John 81said, "One of the things that struck me with so much awe and wonder after I was saved was my new appreciation for "nature". Suddenly I could see God's hand in all of creation and I remember the feelings within me to this day and how I praised God and thanked God so much and so often for the beauty and wonder of His creation."

Yea and amen. God's work in creation is clearly seen and the wonders of creation, nature, the universe, is a wonder to behold.

Thank you very much for your comment.

Alan

 

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The Water Distillation Cycle of the Earth

The water distillation cycle of the earth is very important to the life of mankind. Due to the fact that the water cycle process purifies the water it has also been called, “The Distillation Process.”

Job 36:27 & 28, “For he [God] maketh small the drops of water: they pour down rain according to the vapour thereof: Which the clouds do drop and distil upon man abundantly.”

The water distillation cycle is an orderly, natural and complex cycle that is for the sustenance of the physical life of mankind. The Distillation Process is also an accurate scientific and verifiable fact.

The simple water distillation cycle of the earth is as follows: (1) Atmosphere – Clouds; (2) Precipitation; Rain, snow or ice; (3) Runoff - snowmelt; (4) Infiltration – Groundwater or Subsurface flow, Lakes, Rivers, and Ocean; (5) Evaporation / Condensation – Heat of the Sun. The Sun drives the Water Distillation Cycle and Distils or Purifies, the water, during evaporation.

Without the water distillation process life on earth could not be supported and the earth would soon become a wasteland. Exactly like the other planets, moons, and asteroids in the universe.

The Distillation & Evaporation Process

Psalms 135:6 & 7, “Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places. He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.”

Psalm 135:7, “He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth” the evaporation process distils the water. God caused or designed the water distillation cycle of the earth. Like all of the works of God, the Distillation Process is an orderly arrangement of the physical sciences for the benefit of mankind.

Martyrdom for Bernard Palissy

Bernard Palissy, 1510-1590, is credited with being the initial discoverer of the water cycle. Palissy believed that the physical facts mentioned in the scriptures were scientifically accurate and verifiable. Palissy was correct.

Palissy was a Christian and martyred for his faith by the Roman Catholic Church.

Alan

 

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Brethren,

Hope you enjoy the hymn, "This Is My Father's World." The words express of the wonders of the creation wrought by God for our good.

Alan

 

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It is a bright and beautiful Sunday morning here, and as I gaze out of the window...I catch glimpes of my Father's world.  That was a beautiful rendition of that song, Alan.  Thank you for posting it.  It is such a blessing to live in a tiny little town surrounded by the beauty of creation.  We are in a small valley surrounded by mountains and lava flows.  Many places on the mountain sides one can see where the great flood of Noah's day filled the valley and then receded.  We have rivers and springs and lakes; we have high desert and forested areas.  Not far away are two volcanic mountains, and many waterfalls.  In the wee hours of summer mornings we can hear the yipping coyotes, and the soft lowing of cattle. As the sun rays peek over the mountaintops, the many birds begin chattering, and roosters begin crowing.  Covies of quail often bob their way across the yard, and up higher wild turkeys can be heard gobbling.  Honking geese fly in V-formation overhead, while bears and mountain lions lurk and roam on the outer fringes of the valley.  

The beauties and wonder of our Father's world stretch, and I am so very grateful that the Lord gave me this place to be my earthly home.  Though I am blessed to live in such a beautiful area, I can yet see and witness the destructiveness and grievous consequences of mankind's sin.  It makes me feel very sad, but what causes me even more sadness is knowing the lost and perishing condition of the vast majority of human beings that God created.  Oh how we must be busy about our Father's business of sharing the Good News of salvation!  Are we truly being obedient to the first and second commands of the New Testament (Mark 12:30, 31)?  Do we truly care about the perishing?  We all must ask and remind ourselves often, "For to me to live is...??"

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WellWithMySoul,

Thank you very much for the above post. It was a blessing to my heart and I am sure that it was a blessing to all of the other brethren. You have a way with words that that are a blessing to our hearts.One of the reasons for this thread is to let all know that God created all of the beauty of the natural world for the benefit of man. Only because of the effects of man sin is the world polluted and deadly at times; through natural disasters, floods, accidents, and other forms of the effects of disobedience to God.

Brethren,

The other reason for this thread is to edify and strenghten the brethren in the belief of the written word of God. Also, in our age, through the errors of the teachings of Darwinism, skepticism, scoffers, and worldly philosophy, this thread is written to help restore the Christians belief in the reliability, accuracy, and the infalibility of the scriptures in all disciplines.

As God created this world in His wisdom and understanding, all things that He did are according to scientific, biological, mathmatical, and historical order. As we develop this thread if any of the brethren want to discuss either what has already been brought out, or, a scripture verse dealing with the natural world that would help our understanding in the scientific accuracy of the Bible please bring it to our attention.

Alan

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Well, the science of archaeology has certainly proved out the veracity of the Bible more times than we can count.

Senaccherib's Prism verified the reign of Hezekiah and Senaccherib's attack on Jerusalem

Biblical places and peoples thought to have been myths have been found, like Ur, Assyria, Gath, Siloam, Bethesda, Golgotha.

And many others.

 

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Ukelemike is entirely correct. The science of archaelology has indeed proven that the scriptures are accurate, reliable and trustworthy. Throughout the modern age of archaeology numerous archeaologists have uncovered biblical cities mentioned in the scriptures, confirmed events, battles and nations listed in the scriptures. And, as time goes on and the the archaeologists have more scientific resources and data available, we will probably see other events, battles, kings, and personages mentioned in the scriptures verified by proven scientific archaelological study.

Good, honest, scienctific methods will always confirm the accuracy of the scriptures. Unreliable scientific methods, dis-honest scientists, skeptics, scorners, agnostics, deviously use un-scientific methods to try and dis-credit, or cause people to doubt,  the validity of the scriptures. 

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called." 1 Timothy 6:20

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The Earth is Round 

The Book of Isaiah was written in 760 B.C. Isaiah 40:12-31 is a great discourse on the greatness and wonders of God This chapter shows the majesty of God in creation. Also, how insignificant we are compared to His greatness In Isaiah 40:22 God reveals to Isaiah that the earth is circular: or round. Isaiah 40:22, “It is heGodthat sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as the grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.”

Throughout the ages, men have taught that the earth was flat. But, if a person believed the Bible, he knew that the earth was round.

The mathematical calculations of Nicholaus Copernicus, 1473-1543, and the expedition of Christopher Columbus in 1492, proved that the earth was round Matteo Ricci, 1552-1610, helped the Chinese understand that the earth was round. True science validates the scriptures.

 

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Job 38:35

 “Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?”

 

In Job chapter 38-40:2 God asks Job numerous questions concerning the creation of the universe, the angels, the ocean, the earth, light, the stars, and the animal kingdom.

God gave this discourse to Job, and to us, to realize that our understanding and knowledge is limited and the knowledge, wisdom and the power of God is infinite. God said that lightning could speak.

 

Job could not send lighting from the skies and then make the lightning speak.

 

As man progressed in knowledge, some of the questions that God asked could be answered. God specifically told the prophet Daniel that in the last days knowledge would be increased. Daniel 12:4, “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.”  

 

Benjamin Franklin discovered in June 1752 that lightning is electricity. This was a major development in the history of mankind. This discovery allowed other men of science to use electricity for the benefit of mankind.

 

Samuel Morse, 1791-1872, was the inventor of the workable practical telegraph. The first words of the first telegraph line from Baltimore, Maryland, USA to the US capital in Washington D. C. were, “What Hath God Wrought!” The word, ‘wrought,’ means, “to work, or to put together, a carefully thought out plan.” This is a quotation from Numbers 23:23 b, “What hath God wrought!” Samuel Morse was a strong Christian who gave God the glory for his inventions.

 

In 1876 Alexander Graham Bell invented the first telephone. The Chinese word for telephone, electric speech,「電話」 is correct and accurate. When we use the telephone, or any other modern day invention for speech, we are using electricity: i.e., lightning.

 

The statement of God, “Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?” is scientifically accurate.

 

Brethren,

 

I purposely entitled this thread, "Scientific Facts in the Bible," so that anybody who had a scientific fact, supported by a scripture reference, could put forth his own topic for discussion. And, any discussion on any of the topics already listed is still open to discussion.

 

Alan

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I agree! And what's more, is that God tells us that mankind is without excuse because His creation speaks of His existence and Godhead.  Those who attempt to pervert factual science with supposition and conjecture (such as "the big bang theory", "evolving from amoeba in pond scum" and even "global warming" nonsense) are not only in grave error, but God's word says that His creation and Godhead are clearly seen by mankind. 

Romans 1 
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

So what does God do to those who willfully pervert the truth of God's creation and Godhead? He gives them over to a reprobate mind and furthermore to vile affections. I believe it is no coincidence that homosexuality has become so widespread... after public schools started teaching "evolution" (an unscientific falsehood). I see the link to this in the chapter of Romans 1
 

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There are many principles of God's word that are evidenced today and counted on by the entire globe.  One of them is the properties of light.  The speed of light has been determined to be 186,000 miles per second. When God said "Let there be light"  it is followed by the words "and there was light" Genesis 1:3. Given all the principles that are present each day to keep this world going, it would be a real stretch to use this verse and come to the conclusion that God took thousands of years for creation.  Lets take God at His word. It is His "universe" ( one word)

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2ndTimothy,

Thank you very much for the short lesson on the creative act of God and the speed of light as recorded in Genesis 1:3

If you would like to expand on that subject, or another one, please do so.

Alan

Ronda,

Thank you very much for your thoughts. We always enjoy your discussions.

Alan 

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“The Lack of Sustaining Human Life on other Planets”

Psalm 115:16

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.” Psalm 115:16 God has given the earth for  mankind to dwell in and not the heavens, or, in our modern vernacular, “Outer Space.”

 

In Genesis 1:2 we read that the earth, as originally created, was created completely barren and unsuitable for the sustaining of human life on it.“And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the

waters. Genesis 1:2

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The scriptures are very clear. The scriptures did not say, “...and the earth became without form, and void,” It says very clearly that the earth in Genesis 1:2 was, “...without form and void.” The belief that there was a “Gap” between Genesis 1:1 and 2 and during the, “Gap,” the earth became without form and void is without merit of any kind and a private interpretation.

 

Jeremiah 4:23, “I behold the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, they had no light.” Jeremiah 4:23 is not a historical reference to a supposed ‘gap’ between Genesis 1:1 and 2. A close to look at the context, Jeremiah 4:19-31, reveals it is a prophecy concerning the desolation of the land of Israel and Jerusalem. “For thus hath the LORD said, the whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end ... The whole city shall flee for the noise of horsemen and bowmen they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.” Jeremiah 4:27 and 29

“Form and Void meanings

Among the many definitions of the word ‘form,’ Webster’s 1828 Dictionary gives us this meaning:

 

“FORM, n. The root of this word is not certainly known. The primary sense is probably to set, to fix, to fit.”

 

  1. Determinate shape. The earth was without form, and void. Gen. i.

  2. A mold; something to give shape, or on which things are fashioned. Encyc."

 

Therefore, the earth, as depicted in Genesis 1:2, was not settled, or fixed, or fit for mankind, and, the earth was without a determinate shape. The Earth in Genesis 1:2 had the makings of a habitable planet for human life but it had to be fashioned in order for human life to live.

 

The Earth was in the ‘mold’ stage to sustain human life. As a potter takes a lump of clay that has no human utility and molds the clay into a vessel that a man can use, so did God mold the Earth into a habitable planet for mankind. A comparison of Jeremiah 18:1-10 and Genesis 1:3-23 is recommended to the reader.

 

Among the many definitions of the word ‘void,’ Webster’s 1828 dictionary gives us this meaning:

“VOID, a

1. Empty; vacant, not occupied with any visible matter; as a void space or place. 1 Kings xxii.

2. Empty; without inhabitants or furniture. Gen i."

 

Therefore, the word ‘void’ in Genesis 1:2 simply means there was nothing occupying the Earth and it was vacant, i.e., no inhabitants or items ‘furniture’ suitable for the sustenance of the inhabitants.

 

In Genesis 1:3-23 we see the creative acts of God in supplying the Earth suitable for the habitation of human life. The Earth was made for Man and his descendants.

 

“A picture is worth a thousand words.”

 

Photos of the Meanings of the Words, “without form, and void.”

 

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‘Buzz’ Aldrin, Apollo 11, July 1969, proves that the moon is ‘without form and void,’ and cannot support human life.

 

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NASA’s Pathfinder proves that Mars is “without form and void.”

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NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft verifies that

Pluto is, “without form and void.”

 

The Purpose of the Sun, Stars, and Planetary Bodies

 

Genesis 1:14-19, “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.”

 

The, ‘greater light’ is the Sun and the, ‘lesser’ light is the moon.

 

God made the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, and all of the planetary bodies for the following reasons:

 

  1. To divide the day from the night.

  2. Signs

  3. Seasons

  4. Days

  5. Years

  6. Lights to shine on the Earth: “to give light upon the earth.”

 

There are no other reasons why God made the other Stars, Moons, Planets, Asteroids, and Comets of the Universe.

Conclusion

God did not make the planetary bodies of the universe for the habitation of mankind. All of the planetary bodies of the universe are barren and desolate of life nor can they sustain human life. The planetary bodies of the universe are in the same condition that the Earth was in Genesis 1:2 before God made the Earth suitable for the support of human life. “The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD’S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.” Psalm 115:16

 

True scientific study and analysis always verifies that the scriptures are scientifically accurate.

 

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The, ‘comets,’ or, ‘aliens of other races,’ or other suppositions of the science fiction crowd, did not give life upon Earth nor ‘seed,’ the earth with any form of life, water, or any type of germination. All of the life and physical characteristics upon the Earth are from the direct acts of God by verbal command or from the dirt of the Earth. Evolution, whether secular or “Theistic Evolution,” is unscientific, false, full of unproven hypothesis, blatantly unscriptural, and is to be rejected.

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“Is not God in the height of heaven? And behold the height of the stars, how high they are!”

Job 22:12.

 

The Immense Height or Distance of the Stars

 

The Book of Job is the oldest book of the Bible. The events of the Book of Job approximately 1520 B.C. Only God could have revealed the following information concerning the earth, our solar system and the universe as recorded in the Book of Job.

 

Eliphaz the Temanite one of the three friends of Job, said, This statement is a scientifically accurate fact.

 

The closest star, or actually a group of three stars, is, “Proxima Centauri.” Proxima Centauri was discovered in 1915 by Robert Innes, using a telescope. It took the scientific world from 1520 B. C. to 1915 A. D. to discover that the scientific statements concerning the immense height, or distance, of the stars from the earth, is scientifically correct.

 

Scientists use the stellar parallax method and the measurements obtained from the Hipparcos satellite to calculate the distance from the Sun to the Stars. Due to the immense distances involved, all calculations are derived from the Sun and not the earth.

 

“Proxima Centauri,” is approximately 4.24 light years from the Sun. There are 13 different calculations performed in order to calculate this distance. Using our fastest spacecraft it would take 78,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri.

 

Scientists can only calculate the approximate distance of the closest stars. Even in our modern age, scientists do not know the exact distance of the distant stars. Nor do they agree how to measure the distant stars. Neither scientific instruments nor mathematical calculations can accurately measure the distance of the very distant stars.

 

The mathematical calculations to measure the distance to the stars is very complex and not easily understood.

 

The statement in the Book of Job, “Is not God in the height of heaven? And behold the height of the stars, how high they are!” is a scientifically accurate and verifiable statement.

 

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork.” Psalm 19:1

 

“Is not God in the height of heaven?”

God dwells in heaven and heaven is separate, and above, the universe. Both the Russian consonants and the American Astronauts have verified that, “God does not dwell in outer space but, “In the height of heaven.”

 

Russian Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin

  • I looked and looked but I didn't see God.
    • As quoted in To Rise from Earth (1996) by Wayne Lee; some websites quote him as saying "I looked and looked and looked but I didn't see God." on 14 April 1961, a couple days after his historic flight, but the authenticity of such statements have been disputed; Colonel Valentin Petrov stated in 2006 that the cosmonaut never said such words, and that the quote originated from Nikita Khrushchev's speech at the plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU about the state's anti-religion campaign, saying "Gagarin flew into space, but didn't see any god there." Gagarin himself was a member of the Russian Orthodox Church.
    • Variant: No I didn't see God. I looked and looked but I didn't see God.

Either way, Yuri Gagarin did not see God and the Russian Premier Nikita Khrushchev confirmed that God was not there.

 

In the numerous American space flights none of the American astronauts, whether Christian or atheist has seen God in outer space. Thereby, confirming, that God is not in outer space.

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Brethren,

I decided to re-open, and continue, the studies on, "Scientific Facts in the Bible."

I will delay the next lesson for a day or two in order to allow any discussions or comments on previous lessons.

I also want to remind all of the my statement that I made on November 4, 2015. Please see the comment below.

On ‎2015‎年‎11‎月‎4‎日 at 6:21 PM, Alan said:

I purposely entitled this thread, "Scientific Facts in the Bible," so that anybody who had a scientific fact, supported by a scripture reference, could put forth his own topic for discussion. And, any discussion on any of the topics already listed is still open to discussion.

Looking forward to some good discussions! :D

Alan 

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5 hours ago, Alan said:

Brethren,

I decided to re-open, and continue, the studies on, "Scientific Facts in the Bible."

I will delay the next lesson for a day or two in order to allow any discussions or comments on previous lessons.

I also want to remind all of the my statement that I made on November 4, 2015. Please see the comment below.

Looking forward to some good discussions! :D

Alan 

Thanks Alan, How are you?

I take it you are safe after the earthquake?

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We are fine.

We were in our apartment at the church when the earthquake struck and were awakened, but no damage was done to our building. Our church is a three-story concrete structure (most homes, churches, and other buildings on Taiwan are concrete). Our city, Hua Lien, is app. 100 miles from Tainan where the epicenter was located and most of the damage occured.  As of this morning 29 souls perished and more are expected.

Thank you for your concern.

Alan

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Very glad to hear you are safe and well Alan.

Things such as this serve, or should serve, as a stark reminder just how unpredictable life is and how quickly anyone can enter eternity for better or worse.

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