"Sinner Saved By Grace!?!"
Posted 20 December 2005 - 01:16 AM
The difference between us and a lost sinner is the fact that our sins have been forgiven and washed away by the blood of Jesus, and we are on our way to Heaven.
I'm glad to be a sinner saved by grace.
Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:23 AM
I don't think "saved by grace" occurs exactly like that in the Bible, but I was able to find these:
(Sorry, I use the NIV :roll: )
"Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)"
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
2 Timothy 1:9
"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,"
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace."
Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:45 AM
Posted 06 September 2005 - 01:55 AM
Not mocking anyone at all - was just worried me being a NIV reader was a bad thing...
Posted 06 September 2005 - 02:36 AM
By the way, welcome to the boards - didn't think of stating that in my earlier reply.
Posted 06 September 2005 - 02:53 AM
Without wanting to get off topic (and because I "wanted to ask the question") I've created a seperate thread - http://onlinebaptist...ic.php?p=111815 - just curious to know more about "why KJV instead of NIV" (comments would be appreciated).
Posted 09 April 2005 - 02:29 PM
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 08:14 AM
1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Paul still considered himself a sinner - otherwise he would have said "I was chief", not "I am chief", stating he still was.
There are other passages that also refer to the believer as a sinner - though there is a difference. God does not class us the same as the ungodly, ie. the "sinners" we were before we got saved. Being a saint does not mean we are no longer sinners - but that is not our prime identification in Christ. I think God will consider us as such until we no longer sin - when we are in Heaven.
Posted 15 April 2005 - 03:32 PM
I do not have much time. Ye we were sinners but as I said earlier Christ died so we may be made saints. Which we are to strive not to in no more. Obvioly we do still in. We are human.
But Christ came to save the sinners and the lost. I got saved almost 2 year ago. So if Christ came to save sinners then He is still trying to save me? Anyways it is till probably a matter of opinion, I am at the Library and my Bible is in the car or I would show you the verses I used. Like you said Jerry Paul said I am the chiefest of sinners. Not Christ. I will ask Chad the verses he had on that. They were much better thatn mine. But after that I would like to be out of this disscuion. It could get ugly
Posted 15 April 2005 - 03:53 PM
Being a saint is not the opposite of being a sinner.
Saint means set apart (for God's use).
I became a saint the moment I repented of my sins and trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour - though now I am to live up to my calling and be set apart from the world unto God in a practical day to day manner.
Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:04 PM
Posted 17 April 2005 - 03:25 PM
Do not kill me Brandon. I do not think it is a Biblically sound statement. In Phillipians (I can not remember the verse I will post it later) is talks abouts us being saved by grace, but not SINNER saved by grace. So basically you are degrading yourself. Yes we do sin but because we are able to be forgiven we are no longer a sinner but a saint (that sins) saved by grace. Probably a matter of opinion though. Chad and Bro.Carr agree
So, are you trying to imply that we were never a sinner? Is that why we are no longer "sinners saved by grace?" Well, if we were not sinners, then Christ would not have had to die for us and we would never have needed a Saviour. We were indeed ALL sinners.
Another thing, we are STILL sinners even after salvation. You still sin. You still do wrong things, you still go against God's Bible on occasion. To say that after salvation you are perfect is simply not true. True, after salvation God does look at us and see His perfect Son, Jesus. However, we are STILL human beings and we can STILL sin after salvation. So, therefore I believe that the phrase "Sinner saved by grace" is indeed true.
Glad to be a Sinner Saved by His Grace!
Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:57 PM
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Posted 18 April 2005 - 07:13 PM
"Brethren we have met to worship and adore the Lord our God"
Oh Jessi they fixed your mistake on the calander