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#379745 Thanks!

Posted by irishman on 23 July 2014 - 01:11 PM

I would lkke to thank all who have prayed for me for a liver transplant.  The Lord miraculously provide a liver for me, and I am doing well.  I am out of the woods yet, completely, and now have a limited lifestyle, but thank God, I am still kicking!

#378726 Paul Chappell - Are You A Servant Leader Or Simply A Ministry Manager?

Posted by HappyChristian on 06 July 2014 - 03:34 PM

Name-calling is one thing that gets threads locked. And so it is...

#378679 Ask A Politically Correct Question...get The Truth...for Once.

Posted by No Nicolaitans on 05 July 2014 - 07:48 AM

#378088 Debate Topics

Posted by Steve Schwenke on 26 June 2014 - 05:26 PM

Brother, I am not a moderator, so I speak for myself.  The initial idea for this "debate" format has to do with some very specific teachings that have been batted around the forum for a very long time.  Because of the nature of open forums like this one, it is nearly impossible for two people to have any type of meaningful discussion on these topics because of the myriad of interruptions and rabbit trails.  The idea is for two people to mutually agree to have a rational discussion upon an agreed upon topic without interruption and without time constraints.  Because it is limited to two people, they do not have to worry about trying to "keep pace" with the entire conversation.  They can work at it as they have time. 

I believe this will give the two "debaters" time to really think and compose a good solid response, instead of just "firing from the hip" as they try to keep up with a conversation with unlimited people.

#376973 Kingsoft Office Suite

Posted by 2bLikeJesus on 16 June 2014 - 03:06 PM

I find the google docs to be very good for free.  It is all MS software based just a dumbed down version without some of the advanced features of a full version. 

#375701 Don't Call This An Independent Baptist Forum

Posted by Salyan on 06 June 2014 - 01:43 PM

Love being told what I'm thinking, I really do. Also love being told how one man is the sole arbitrator and definer of independent baptistism. Okay, that was an emotional response. 


Sigh. Enough is enough. 


Edited to add:
Maybe I need to say this. James, you have indicated that you are feeling discriminated against by some of the mods, including myself. I want you to know that I actually consider you to be pretty much spot on in doctrine (I don't say that to too many people!), and I like having you around to point out that good doctrine to the various folk around here who may not share it.  What I object to is the way you (and yes, you do) seem to switch from arguing against a person's wrong beliefs and turn it into an argument against them.  You have on occasion also indicated that you have actually researched (for lack of a better term) people on the Internet and brought that information here. I admit that sometimes you have dug out trolls with this method, but to be frank, it smacks to me of stalking. All that to say, I like what you say but I believe that how you say it is wrong. I wanted you to know all that. I agree with your doctrine, and do not want to limit the promulgation of that doctrine! 


We moderators do not always do the job that even we would like to see done. We can't read everything, and sometimes we miss or misunderstand what we do read. We really do try not to get biased, and sometimes when we truly feel ourselves so, we will take a break or ask someone else to handle the situation/person so that we don't mishandle it. There's an awful lot that we would like to say personally that we choose not to, as well.  At the end of the day, we have a job to do. Whether we do it well or not, throwing perceived inconsistencies in our teeth does not help or encourage us in this job. It actually makes it harder. I really don't understand how anyone can think this recent line of attacks can in any way improve the situation. We can only moderate so long as people allow us to by their cooperation.

I have been greatly saddened and angered by the explicit attacks against HappyChristian. She has put much personal time and effort into making OB what it has been over the past number of years, and does not deserve the malicious attacks made against her. She is a godly and wise woman, which fact is reflected in her posts, and an excellent example in her ability to moderate her own choice of words and avoid hasty responses. I have never known her to respond with cruel words. She has been a great encourager to many on this site, and all of you who are sitting by and listening to this attack without defending her ought to be ashamed of yourselves!!  


#376094 Mia

Posted by Gabrielle A on 09 June 2014 - 03:14 PM

Hey BroMatt,

I have been praying for you and the family since I had joined here...hope all is well! :th_popout:

#375129 About To Cause A Church Split......

Posted by DaveW on 03 June 2014 - 02:55 AM

Me, my son, and one of the men spent yesterday rotating the church auditorium through 90°. Well not the auditorium itself, but the contents of it. ;)


I have talked about doing it off and on for the last 12 months, but Sunday this man came and said - let's do it tomorrow.


So we did. Moved the platform - which was heavy.

Moved my office from one corner to another so now it is at the back of the auditorium.

Moved all the chairs around - and this is the kicker - we used to have three "blocks" of chairs with two aisles, now we have fours blocks of chairs with three aisles - and that means that people can't even just rotate "their seats" :lol:

Moved the Piano (of course) to put it back next to the platform.

Moved the small bookcases that have hymn books and visitors Bibles in them.

Bought a couple of new bookcases to put the plethora of stuff that has been collected somewhere.


So as a result I hope we don't, but I am preparing for a church split this Sunday.


My only consolation is that we didn't get new carpet with it all - That would have been the last straw I am sure......



On a serious note, it means that the double entry doors to the auditorium are now at the back and we can use them as they were intended to be used. My wife had a look last night and she loves it; I really like the way it looks now as well, both from the doors and from the platform.



(You will note that this is in fun and games - just in case someone has temporarily misplaced their sense of humour).



#375177 Tithing Can Sometimes Become A Source Of Conflict In Marriage Relationships

Posted by Salyan on 03 June 2014 - 11:33 AM

Green = hard to read. Please change to normal font in accordance with the Board's rules.

#374926 Original Sin And Pelagianism

Posted by No Nicolaitans on 31 May 2014 - 10:06 PM

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


There is no need to say more...


Now, I realize that a Calvinist's definitions of the words world, all, any, etc. are different. They have to be in order to fit their doctrine...that doesn't make their definitions right. The plain reading of scripture defines who God is talking about.


And no, I will not debate Jeffrey or any other person about the verses that I have listed...or...TULIP...or...supertransubordinefficastromodifcationism...or any other Calvinist term .


The Bible and God speak for themselves.

#374882 Beware!devil At Work

Posted by DaveW on 31 May 2014 - 06:50 PM

I knew a preacher who was not technically a great preacher.
I had reason to sit under his preaching for about 12 months of evenings.
I made the decision that our presence was necessary for their encouragement.

People often said that he always preached the same thing, and that they never got anything out of his preaching.

His preaching was not well structured.
But I always got something out of his preaching.
Those that didn't were simply not paying attention.
His preaching was not easy to follow, but it was always Biblical.

Those starving there were just not eating what was being served.
It was not arranged as it would be in a nice restaurant, and so they rejected it as not good enough for them.
It was however hearty and nourishing. Just not always pretty.

I don't think Matt is talking about a preacher too lazy to work, or one on a hobby horse.

#373975 Members Come And Members Go....

Posted by OLD fashioned preacher on 24 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

It can be either: we are NOT to provoke our children to wrath (Eph 6:4), yet we ARE to provoke unto good works (Heb 10:24).

#370671 Unsaved Son's Upcoming Wedding

Posted by jebarr on 21 April 2014 - 06:36 PM

Thank you all so very much for your insight. I can say I agree with everyone's viewpoint about taking this to the Lord and we have been in much prayer about it.  This boy is our oldest of four children and his brother is getting married next year. Similar situation but we do know that they are having our IFB pastor perform the ceremony at least.  I know that I have to make a stand for God and cannot compromise my morals but I am not sure that I can totally skip the reception.  We are staying in the hotel too, so we may be able to just leave when the alcohol and dancing get going.  That way we are able to participate in at least some of it.


I like the idea of toasting with water or soda- I just did not know if that would be bad testimony or not.


I do think my wife would have say on what song is picked out for that mother/son dance so that may help.  Even though we abstain from dancing normally.


My wife doesn't want to have hurt feelings as grand kids will probably be entering the picture next year and the future fiance seems very much in charge in the relationship. So we try the best we can to maintain good relations, invite them to church all the time, and pray for them everyday.


We know that this is their day but everyday is the Lord's to us so we will make our concerns known before hand and hopefully talk this out so that everyone knows the expectations for that day.


Thank you all so much for your help in this matter again.  I think we may have a meeting with our pastor too.



#370251 Intoducing Me

Posted by heartstrings on 18 April 2014 - 02:07 PM

You have to becareful what you post here. I have been reading the forum for about 6 years now, they censor and delete here. I have seen many people get banned from here for something they posted. You do not have to break a rule to get banned from here. They will just ban you if they do agree with you.

I've been here for a few years, been vehemently disagreed with, have ruffled more than a few feathers, and been accused of some really crazy stuff but have never been banned. If you don't act like a troll, intentionally sow discord, or basically just try to be an antagonistic jerk, most are pretty forgiving.

#369595 He Is Risen!

Posted by "I am chief" on 13 April 2014 - 03:52 PM

Amid all the turmoil and unrest we see not only in the U.S. but around the world. We who are trusting in Jesus Christ as the righteous judge of everything have nothing to be "careful" for. We can rejoice in the knowledge that He is risen.


1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.


Hebrews 12:1-2

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