Okay, folks, read this carefully: this is not a tithing thread. Repeat: this is not a tithing thread. Just because it was mentioned in a post does not mean that we need to derail the thread into such. Put a stop to it - without smart alecky comments about whether or not "tithe" was collected in my church Sunday.
There is a tithe thread already going. Post in that rather than here.
Hi'yall from outerbank nc my name Susan and I'm deaf have two grand kids and go to faith baptist fundamental kjv preaching our pastor who love us and it's myfirst time join a group like this to be able communicate others Christian online and make friends with y'all
I would lkke to thank all who have prayed for me for a liver transplant. The Lord miraculously provide a liver for me, and I am doing well. I am out of the woods yet, completely, and now have a limited lifestyle, but thank God, I am still kicking!
Brother, I am not a moderator, so I speak for myself. The initial idea for this "debate" format has to do with some very specific teachings that have been batted around the forum for a very long time. Because of the nature of open forums like this one, it is nearly impossible for two people to have any type of meaningful discussion on these topics because of the myriad of interruptions and rabbit trails. The idea is for two people to mutually agree to have a rational discussion upon an agreed upon topic without interruption and without time constraints. Because it is limited to two people, they do not have to worry about trying to "keep pace" with the entire conversation. They can work at it as they have time.
I believe this will give the two "debaters" time to really think and compose a good solid response, instead of just "firing from the hip" as they try to keep up with a conversation with unlimited people.
Love being told what I'm thinking, I really do. Also love being told how one man is the sole arbitrator and definer of independent baptistism. Okay,that was an emotional response.
Sigh. Enough is enough.
Edited to add:
Maybe I need to say this. James, you have indicated that you are feeling discriminated against by some of the mods, including myself. I want you to know that I actually consider you to be pretty much spot on in doctrine (I don't say that to too many people!), and I like having you around to point out that good doctrine to the various folk around here who may not share it. What I object to is the way you (and yes, you do) seem to switch from arguing against a person's wrong beliefs and turn it into an argument against them. You have on occasion also indicated that you have actually researched (for lack of a better term) people on the Internet and brought that information here. I admit that sometimes you have dug out trolls with this method, but to be frank, it smacks to me of stalking. All that to say, I like what you say but I believe that how you say it is wrong. I wanted you to know all that. I agree with your doctrine, and do not want to limit the promulgation of that doctrine!
We moderators do not always do the job that even we would like to see done. We can't read everything, and sometimes we miss or misunderstand what we do read. We really do try not to get biased, and sometimes when we truly feel ourselves so, we will take a break or ask someone else to handle the situation/person so that we don't mishandle it. There's an awful lot that we would like to say personally that we choose not to, as well. At the end of the day, we have a job to do. Whether we do it well or not, throwing perceived inconsistencies in our teeth does not help or encourage us in this job. It actually makes it harder. I really don't understand how anyone can think this recent line of attacks can in any way improve the situation. We can only moderate so long as people allow us to by their cooperation.
I have been greatly saddened and angered by the explicit attacks against HappyChristian. She has put much personal time and effort into making OB what it has been over the past number of years, and does not deserve the malicious attacks made against her. She is a godly and wise woman, which fact is reflected in her posts, and an excellent example in her ability to moderate her own choice of words and avoid hasty responses. I have never known her to respond with cruel words. She has been a great encourager to many on this site, and all of you who are sitting by and listening to this attack without defending her ought to be ashamed of yourselves!!
Me, my son, and one of the men spent yesterday rotating the church auditorium through 90°. Well not the auditorium itself, but the contents of it.
I have talked about doing it off and on for the last 12 months, but Sunday this man came and said - let's do it tomorrow.
So we did. Moved the platform - which was heavy.
Moved my office from one corner to another so now it is at the back of the auditorium.
Moved all the chairs around - and this is the kicker - we used to have three "blocks" of chairs with two aisles, now we have fours blocks of chairs with three aisles - and that means that people can't even just rotate "their seats"
Moved the Piano (of course) to put it back next to the platform.
Moved the small bookcases that have hymn books and visitors Bibles in them.
Bought a couple of new bookcases to put the plethora of stuff that has been collected somewhere.
So as a result I hope we don't, but I am preparing for a church split this Sunday.
My only consolation is that we didn't get new carpet with it all - That would have been the last straw I am sure......
On a serious note, it means that the double entry doors to the auditorium are now at the back and we can use them as they were intended to be used. My wife had a look last night and she loves it; I really like the way it looks now as well, both from the doors and from the platform.
(You will note that this is in fun and games - just in case someone has temporarily misplaced their sense of humour).