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Father, Forgive Them

Yesterday, 07:54 AM

I recently heard a pastor say that when Jesus prayed the Father would forgive them (those who crucified him), and when Stephen prayed the same for those who stoned him to death, those were prayers both knew God couldn't and wouldn't grant.


The pastor said those prayers were only given to show how forgiving they (Jesus and Stephen) were. He said God would not grant their prayer request and that both (Jesus and Stephen) knew that.


I've never heard that preached before.


Could, would, did, might God grant their prayer request and not hold that specific sin against their attackers?



Russia's Putin Says Cold War 'victors' Want To Reshape World

24 October 2014 - 07:55 AM

Russia's Putin says Cold War 'victors' want to reshape world

LAURA Russia Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:39am EDT


(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized on Friday what he called the United States' "unilateral diktat" in global affairs and said the "so-called" winners of the Cold War wanted a new world order that suited only them.

In a speech fiercely critical of the United States, Putin told an informal group of political scholars known as the Valdai Club that the global and regional security system had been weakened.

Underlining that Russia was a strong state more than two decades after the end of the Cold War, Putin said Moscow would not "beg" in response to the sanctions imposed on it by the United States and the European Union over the crisis in Ukraine.

So Far, So Fast

24 October 2014 - 07:25 AM

Things Fall Apart
By Patrick J. Buchanan


Friday - October 24, 2014
When this writer was 3 years old, the Empire of Japan devastated Battleship Row of the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor.
Before I was 7, Gen. MacArthur was in an office in Tokyo overlooking the Imperial Palace, dictating to a shattered Japan.
In 1956, President Eisenhower, impressed by the autobahn he had seen in Hitler's Reich, ordered a U.S. Interstate Highway System constructed, tying America together, one of the great public works projects in all history.
Within a decade, the system was on its way to completion.
In 1961, John F. Kennedy said the United States, beaten into space by Nikita Khrushchev's Soviet Union, would put a man on the moon and return him to earth within the decade.
In July 1969, President Nixon, on the deck of the carrier Hornet, welcomed home Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins of Apollo 11.
What ever became of that America? What ever became of that can-do nation? What has happened to us?
This October saw the vaunted Center for Disease Control and Prevention fumbling over basic questions on how to protect Americans from an Ebola epidemic in three small countries of West Africa.
In September, an intruder with a knife climbed the White House fence, trotted across the North lawn, walked through the unlocked front door of the president's house, barreled over a female officer, and ran around the East Room before being tackled by a Secret Service agent going off duty. The president had just departed.
Days earlier, an armed security guard in Atlanta with a violent criminal past was allowed by Secret Service to ride an elevator with Barack Obama.
Last summer came reports that 60,000 children and young people from Central America had walked across the border into the United States, overwhelming our Border Patrol.
Last spring, we learned that sick and suffering vets were deliberately made to wait months for appointments to see VA doctors, and dozens may have died during the wait.
Earlier, the rollout of Obamacare, years in preparation, became a national joke and a metaphor for government incompetence.
Under President Bush came Katrina, where 30,000 residents of New Orleans were stranded for days behind a pool of stagnant water after a hurricane. The city and state couldn't handle it.
Yet, during five days in 1940, 350,000 British troops, besieged at Dunkirk, were rescued from across the Channel by their countrymen in boats and yachts under the guns of the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe.
Such events have contributed to a collapse of confidence among Americans in the competency of their leaders and their government.
Large majorities now believe America is heading downhill, that the future will not be as good as the past, that we are going in the wrong direction.
Malaise pervades the republic.
And there are larger reasons for these sentiments.
Our recent wars, in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, all seem to have left them and us worse off. In fighting our new war in Iraq and Syria we have neither a credible strategy nor sufficient troops to prevail against the Islamic State.
Already, Americans are asking: Why is this our war?
Since the mid-1970s, the real wages of working Americans have stagnated as we have run uninterrupted trade deficits totaling more than $10 trillion. Under Obama the national debt has surpassed the Gross Domestic Product.
Our manufacturing base has been hollowed out with Detroit as Exhibit A. We outsource our future by borrowing from China to buy from China.
We borrow from Japan and Europe to defend Japan and Europe, though World War II has been over for 70 years.
FedEx tracks with precision millions of packages a day. But the U.S. government cannot locate and send back 12 million illegal aliens.
Thirty years after a Reagan amnesty that carried a commitment to secure our borders, Obama is preparing an executive amnesty for untold millions of illegals, as soon as the election is over. And still the borders are not secure.
If government is conceded a role in anything, it is in building roads, bridges, highways and airports, and in running public schools.
Yet our infrastructure is crumbling, U.S. children fall lower and lower in international competition, and the racial divide in academic performances has never closed, despite an investment of trillions in education over half a century. 
Even Joe Biden calls LaGuardia a "Third World" airport.
Many private institutions are succeeding splendidly. But our public institutions, save the military, seem to be broadly failing.
Congress is gridlocked. The president is seen as a dithering incompetent. The Supreme Court is polarized irreparably.
Our political, racial and cultural clashes, traceable to conflicts created by the revolutions of the 1960s, are daily magnified and exacerbated by cable TV, the Internet and social media.
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world," wrote the poet Yeats.
Clare Luce put is another way. In this world, she said, there are two kinds of people -- optimists and pessimists. "The pessimists are better informed."


09 October 2014 - 06:52 PM

There are some who believe God created everything and then basically headed out on an extended vacation, leaving us to go it alone.


There are others who hold to a partial view of this, in that they believe God doesn't deal directly with us but He's active in some things.


These views, and others, naturally effect our understanding of prayer.


Do you believe God hears your prayers and responds to your prayers?


Do you believe God "speaks" to you (not like walking with you in the garden chatting), through the Holy Ghost, that still small voice, the Word, preaching, others?


Some believe God doesn't respond to our prayers and anything we consider an answer to prayer is simply coincidence.


Some don't believe in coincidence.


Some believe God doesn't speak to anyone in any way these days.


Do you believe God does sometimes answer prayers for healing, wisdom, protection, etc.? There are some who reject that idea.


What are your beliefs regarding prayer and God's interaction, or lack thereof, in our lives?

Trying To Get On The Same Side As The World

07 October 2014 - 06:06 PM

Not much has changed in a hundred years.





The chief danger of the Church today is that it is trying to get on the same side as the world, instead of turning the world upside down. Our Master expects us to accomplish results, even if they bring opposition and conflict. Anything is better than compromise, apathy, and paralysis. God, give to us an intense cry for the old-time power of the Gospel and the Holy Ghost!


--A.B. Simpson (December 15, 1843 - October 29, 1919, Canadian preacher, theologian, author, and founder of the Christian and Missionary Alliance)



How are things where you are?

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