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In Topic: Matthew 24

19 November 2014 - 06:25 PM

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

There have been many "tribulations since AD 70. 

Think about the Crusades, when many were killed for their faith.
Think about the 20th Century, when more than 6,000,000 Jews were killed in Adolph Hitler's gas chambers.

Sorry Covenanter, but Preterism doesn't agree with Scripture or history.

In Topic: David Cloud

19 November 2014 - 02:27 PM

In my opinion, the phrase "when has that ministry taken a stand...?" Infers doctrinal statement rather than individual statement. It is attacking the ministry, not the minister.

In Topic: David Cloud

19 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

Ken Ham doesn't claim to be IFB. I don't see any point in trying to hold him to IFB standards. Everyone knows that is a new evangelical ministry - and a very good one, as those go - take it or leave it, as you choose.

This business about having to have a written statement against Billy Graham seems rather extreme. I would hope that a good IFB church would warn against him - but having it in the doctrinal statement? I think it would be better to remind people of the principles involved in separation rather than trying to dictate a particular form of the exercise thereof.

I agree.  One need not have Billy Graham in one's doctrinal statement. 

Think about it.  If Billy Graham repents of his error, then what?  Re-write the doctrinal statement?  Leave Billy in, but move him in to the "Preachers We Idolize" category?

Yes, congregations should be warned of error.  Paul consistently did that, as seen in his words to the Elders at Ephesus.  But to put the names of those in some form of doctrinal error in the Church doctrinal statement is carrying it to the extreme.  One would have to write every spiritual leader's name in the doctrinal statement, because none are perfect.  We all have our faults.

In Topic: David Cloud

19 November 2014 - 12:54 PM

Acts 20:28 (KJV) 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Acts 20:29 (KJV) 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

Acts 20:30 (KJV) 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Paul warned of wolves in the midst of the congregation scattering the flock. He also warned that some wolves would be Elders of the Church.

Anyone who is in any position, whether leaders or laity, is subject to error. We must always be vigilant, because the devil walks about seeking whom he may devour.

David Cloud is not above error himself. He, like us, is in a body subject to sin and sinful passions. He does err from time to time. And, being public, will be called on error when someone catches it.

I have emailed him in the past and received answers that were good as well as answers that were questionable. I have questioned a few of his articles myself, presenting clear Scripture as to why I saw him to be in error.

Funny thing though, whenever I pointed out his error, he always rejected it, even though Scripture revealed him to be wrong. Yes, a watchman on the wall is good. But that watchman should not put his own beliefs above the authority of Scripture.

Was Cloud wrong in his pointing out that Ham went to a CCM concert? Maybe, maybe not. Did he first go to Ham and speak with him? Or did he just begin to point fingers?

If the latter, then he was wrong.

In Topic: How Old Is The Earth

16 November 2014 - 06:56 PM

What is funny, is the attempt to put time in eternity. The foolishness of saying Earth existed in eternity, just a day or two before creation is ludicrous... to say the least.

You are saying 'Days existed before days existed'. RoFL

No, if Earth existed in eternity, then the Earth has always been in existence. But the Bible says it was made in the six-day creation period. I'll stick with the Bible.
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