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#397139 New Name for IFBs

Posted by Ukulelemike on 16 December 2014 - 01:14 PM

Does Westboro describe themselves as "IFB"? if so, why do they think its their place to go to other churches and demand they do things their way? I guess they've missed the fact that it isn't any of their business, that if they want to deal with them as brethren, they should do it biblically, privately initially, then, if necessary, to do it publicly, but respectfully. And if they don't consider them brethren, they should just be seeking to give them the gospel, because trying to get the lost to live according to the word of God is like trying to get a fish to live in a tree-they are not the right kind of creature yet.  

#397130 New Name for IFBs

Posted by OLD fashioned preacher on 16 December 2014 - 10:03 AM

"Fundamentalist", "Missionary", "Sunday School" are good terms but not "Biblical" (not saying they are improper for a Christian) and therefore dispensable. "Christian", "Disciple", "Aged", "Holy Ghost", "Saint" are terms used in Scripture and should not be shied from.


"Fundamental" describes what kind of Christian you are, "Christian" defines who you belong to.


You can refuse to be called a "Fundamentalist" as a label without changing what you believe and without denying the Lord. You cannot refuse to be called Christian as a label without denying the Christ even though you don't change what you believe because you are denying the ownership.

#396842 The Moon Is It;s Own Light?

Posted by John81 on 12 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

The only way to attack the Bible through what it says is to twist it and misrepresent it. Typically, these people don't even know what the Bible actually says, only what they've heard others say. Since they already don't want to believe the Bible and want to attack it they are quick to accept anything they think they can grasp for an attack.


While in university I kept studied up on their arguments so when I encountered these often, as I did when there, I could turn their argument back upon them. They bring up the "big bang" so the question must be asked "where, or what, is the actual scientific proof of such?" Since none exists, they can't provide a solid answer. Even if they try to plod along I would ask what caused the "big bang"...where did the stuff they think caused the "big bang" come from?


While we could argue the Bible with them, I've found that's generally not helpful since they won't listen anyway, and usually even the onlookers are not swayed by such a defense. However, by taking the offense and questioning their beliefs they are most often taken off guard, most often unprepared to offer anything like a reasonable answer, and they generally end up looking as if they are backpeddling and skirting the questions. In the end, their offered up belief system is left in tatters which often leaves at least some of the onlookers with the idea that if the anti-Bible position isn't true maybe there is more to the Bible position than they thought. That has led to some more productive conversations.

#396962 Pope Says "dogs Go To Heaven"

Posted by MatthewDiscipleOfGod on 13 December 2014 - 09:26 AM

I am a pet lover but I see no Biblical support that our pets will be in Heaven. Pastors, popes and laymen that preach that they will be in Heaven often do so for emotional reasons. Theology should never come from our emotions but from the Bible alone.

#396617 ...honour The King,

Posted by Standing Firm In Christ on 09 December 2014 - 11:35 PM

Fax me one of those pies.

#396549 ...honour The King,

Posted by HappyChristian on 09 December 2014 - 10:41 AM

Interesting topic.

Goes right along with this past Sunday School Lesson


Take time to read Psalm 73......it's not too long.


Remembering who you are is important as well.

When I was in 8th grade, we had a music teacher who put that Psalm to music...I'll be singing it the rest of the day now.  :clap:  

#396521 Really?

Posted by ThePilgrim on 08 December 2014 - 11:31 PM

Not to worry, they will see less than they can see on Google.  

#394831 ...honour The King,

Posted by John81 on 26 November 2014 - 07:15 PM

I like Burger King! He's my second favorite king, next to the King of Kings. Then comes the King of Cartoons.

That's better than many Christians who still call Elvis "The King". :icon_rolleyes: 

#394827 ...honour The King,

Posted by Ukulelemike on 26 November 2014 - 06:26 PM

I like Burger King! He's my second favorite king, next to the King of Kings. Then comes the King of Cartoons.

#394770 ...honour The King,

Posted by ThePilgrim on 26 November 2014 - 11:51 AM


#394721 ...honour The King,

Posted by ThePilgrim on 26 November 2014 - 08:49 AM

Why are the men (sometimes called The Founding Fathers) who instigated the rebellion against the God ordained power of King George such popular men in the eyes of American Christians?  Was it because there rebelion against God's appointed authority over them one somehow differernt than the God appointed authority over our reighning authorities?  I get so confused when I listen to the arguements in favor of never standing up to evil because the evil is believed to be God's will.  So confused.  

#394697 ...honour The King,

Posted by HappyChristian on 25 November 2014 - 09:01 PM

Nope. Not here in America, Dave. At least not according to our founders. He is to be subject to the very same laws we are. Kings aren't. Lex Rex.

Elected servants are just that, John. Servants who have been put into those positions to obey and enforce the law, not rule. Big difference. But, again, too many people don't know that and that is why we have "lords" and "kings" in DC. Not because it's God's will or because He ordained it...but because He allows it-because if our sin.

#394690 ...honour The King,

Posted by HappyChristian on 25 November 2014 - 08:19 PM

Not true, John. The founders purposely set up a form of government that limited the president precisely because they did not want a king. We the people and the law are the authority...those elected to publuc office are to serve the law and the people - not be their lords. Sadly, most folks don't understand that today and is one of the reasons BO can get away with acting like a king.

The powers that be means government...read Romans 13...God ordained the fact that we should have government. Not the style of it - that, as our founders knew, is left up to each nation. I do not believe BO is God's will for this country. I do believe He allowed it, but that is not at all the same thing.

#394648 ...honour The King,

Posted by HappyChristian on 25 November 2014 - 03:16 PM

Well, since in America we the people are supposed to be king and not the person in the White House...


But, no, I don't think that's appropriate.

#395833 Pope Says It Is Wrong To Equate Islam With Violence

Posted by John81 on 03 December 2014 - 07:55 PM

It's our lives, our witness and testimony, that should stand out and make it clear to others we are different (peculiar people).


Names of churches, movements, slogans, ideologies, description change over time so they better reflect the reality of the times.


Prior to WWII the swastika symbol was used by many different cultures and was considered a beautiful symbol with some strong, sometimes great meaning to various people groups. With that symbol becoming so attached to the Nazis, here we are about 70 years after the fall of the very short lived Nazi Party and that symbol is still extremely tainted.


The Word says people will know us by our love one for another. Shame on us that we are more often known for other things...battling Baptists, bickering Baptist, buffet Baptists, bigoted Baptists...

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