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#378798 John Calvin Had It All Wrong

Posted by heartstrings on 07 July 2014 - 08:34 PM

I was upset for a different reason:  How dare a MAN who calls himself a preacher lie on my God like that.

#378797 What About Our 'own' Convictions?

Posted by heartstrings on 07 July 2014 - 08:26 PM

Mark 1: 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:


And what would be the purpose of going down into a river if all you need is a sprinkle on top of your head? You can do that with a cup.

#378582 Paul Chappell - Are You A Servant Leader Or Simply A Ministry Manager?

Posted by heartstrings on 03 July 2014 - 11:24 AM

pas·tor   [pas-ter, pah-ster]  Show IPA
1325–75;  < Latin pāstor  shepherd, literally, feeder, equivalent to pās-,  base of pāscere  to put to pasture,feed + -tor -torreplacing Middle English pastour  < Anglo-French



1  [el-der]  Show IPA

before 900; Middle English; Old English eldra,  comparative of eald old



The bible mentions the plurality of elders in individual churches. It also mentions ''elders'' having ''rule''. A ''pastor'' might indeed be an ''elder'' if he is ''older', as Peter said he was, but not every elder was a church pastor. A ''bishop'' was evidently an ''office'' as was a ''deacon'' because the Bible says so. Men try to say that all of these three words; elder, bishop, and pastor, refer to the same ''office''. I have seen no Bible evidence that this is true. If you can convince your church that all three mean the same thing, then you have the ''means'' to eliminate any other ''rulers'' but yourself and thereby squelch the voice of anyone who disagrees with you. This type power gives occasion to the Jack Hyles's, Jack Schaaps and Jim Jones's of this world because it IS worldly.  Too many of us want preeminence, want to dominate; not too many are willing to humble ourselves as servants.


Matthew 20: 25But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.26But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister

#378174 What About Our 'own' Convictions?

Posted by heartstrings on 27 June 2014 - 04:48 PM

I feel you are right about the KJV, that it is the KJB, when comparing it to the vast 'foundation' of sources from which the translators gathered the text, in multiple languages.

It properly is a translation in that sense.


Now about the rest, I can't sway anyone my way, it's against the rules, and I have broken the rules too much as it is. 

I came, yes to try to 'sway' as you term it, but looked like 'the fool' when I tried. (I obviously am new at the forums.)

And I don't like doing that, it's embarrassing. Yet, I moved on, and left 'it' out most of the time, using bad judgement

at times, and getting points.


I am just a simple country preacher, a Cincinnati suburb 'convert', who only has the knowledge of hearing the word of God

in a simple independent Baptist church in Southeastern Indiana (no longer in existence), and reading and studying the word of God myself.

Where the preacher preached and taught from the KJB (and he always did), teaching various 'doctrinal' subjects.

I was licensed to preach by our congregation in 1990. Giving me 'permission' to preach or teach whenever, or where ever

I have opportunity to magnify my Lord.

I have the same 'doctrines' that I have gathered from the Holy Scriptures, that I perceived from various Churches that our

Church fellow-shipped with for years. I never 'saw' some of the 'doctrines' in those independent Baptist Churches, that I read

about on this forum.


I obviously have increased in wisdom while here.

And I am trying to be more considerate of other beliefs than I did at my first postings.

I cannot, and will not defend my position that you mentioned about the 'Bible of my preference'.


Thank you for any prayers for my strength to be the right strength.

And my beliefs to be the right beliefs.

I meant that the King James is THE, ONLY, REAL Bible for the English language, God's pure Word. Everything else is a version, or a flawed translation.

#378167 What About Our 'own' Convictions?

Posted by heartstrings on 27 June 2014 - 03:36 PM

I posted this in a previous thread... what do you think?


"Here we go, bashing someone else's beliefs on 'what' the scriptures plainly teach from a believers own view.

Are we not aloud to believe our own 'convictions'? ''believing'' your own convictions is one thing; voicing them is another


It scares me how Scwenke can be so 'clear' in what he says, (and be wrong 'from my perspective'), and he is aloud to

be a 'believer'; yet someone else can be a 'false teacher' by also believing the scriptures 'clearly'. Scwenke is IFB, KJB and this a KJB, IFB forum


The road does go both ways. Both use the same 'road', yet only one can be right.

But does one being 'right', cancel out what the other guy believes from his own experience in Bible study, and that for years of study?


How is it that two diverse fella's, both with years of reading and studying the scriptures, come up with different views of the scriptures, and

disagree with eachother, how can they say to eachother, you are a false teacher?


Doesn't it have to do with experience, spiritually with the Lord? How can you call one's convictions that he learned from God in his own relationship, wrong doctrine.

Probably with these words - 'you are not understanding what God is saying here...'.


We have the mind of Christ. 


Any thoughts?


Maybe a new thread."




Anything anyone? Do we 'have' to agree?

I've been an IFB for some 28 years but have been out of my 'element' much as you are, here on this forum, because I have been attending a SBC for 3 years. During those 3 years, I still don't like the rock music, the pants on women, the men in shorts with 'necklaces', the tobacco chewing, the MV's and some of the other things that SBC  folks do. But though we still try to 'live right, dress right and spit white', we don't try to impose our beliefs on the SBC's because, again, I feel out of my element there. But here, on this IFB forum, I can still voice such things as that the King James Bible (not 'version') is God's pure, holy, inerrant, unadulterated Word for English Speaking people and that the others are corrupted and false, that Jesus Christ is coming back in the clouds pre-millennially, that Israel has not been 'replaced', and that Calvinism is lie and a slander against the name of the Lord Jesus Christ: because this is an IFB forum; not a ''Geneva bible'' forum. Why are you here: to learn or to sway others to your doctrine?

#377905 Sudan Court Releases Woman On Death Row For Marrying Christian

Posted by heartstrings on 24 June 2014 - 11:34 AM

They may be afraid she'll tell the world how she was treated.

#377846 Altar Calls...

Posted by heartstrings on 23 June 2014 - 05:00 PM

Well.....I was saved during one of those ''Americanisms'' on May 11, 1986.


Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

#377822 Altar Calls...

Posted by heartstrings on 23 June 2014 - 01:48 PM


#377361 When Teens Start Turning To Christian Rap And Rock Music

Posted by heartstrings on 19 June 2014 - 12:28 PM

Dads often have to be the bad guy.  That's why they are the Dads.... :eye:

I've always hated that. It can be so stressful.

#377339 When Teens Start Turning To Christian Rap And Rock Music

Posted by heartstrings on 19 June 2014 - 10:42 AM

It's worldly.......

015 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 1 John 2: 15-16


Christians are not to conform to the world.......


And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.


Just because it's "new" doesn't make it right......

Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16

#377210 Do You Know Any White Person Named Jesus?

Posted by heartstrings on 18 June 2014 - 04:18 PM

Here is an interesting article on the ''Jesus/Joshua'' subject.

#376894 Do You Know Any White Person Named Jesus?

Posted by heartstrings on 16 June 2014 - 10:41 AM

When our first son was born, I named him Joshua and a lady at our church, upon hearing this, said "you named him the same as Jesus in the OT". I didn't argue with her but I was  thinking "no, I named him Joshua". If the Lord had wanted the King James translators to call the OT person "Jesus", or the Lord, "Joshua".  I believe it would be in there . No, I don't believe it's right to name your kid "Jesus", I don't care it you do pronounce it 'Hay soos". I think the highly exalted "name which is above every name" is holy and belongs to the King of Glory.


Phil;ippians 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

#376622 Southern Baptists Unanimously Affirm Biblical Sexuality, Oppose ‘Transgenderism’

Posted by heartstrings on 13 June 2014 - 09:57 AM

One of the weaknesses within the SBC is it's inability to get member churches to comply with the stated positions of the SBC. There is also a problem in dealing with churches which reach a point they should be ejected from the SBC.


This is one of the areas the SBC should attempt to address and correct, at least to the point where they establish a set of foundational principles that must be adhered to by churches within the SBC and if a member church violates one (or more) of those foundational principles they should receive a personal visit from the president and a couple others (or a small group established to deal with such) which can speak to the leader(s) of the violating church and attempt to help them see biblical reason and make correction. If the church refuses to restore biblical correctness in line with the foundational principles they should be quickly expelled.Our

That's because individual SBC's are really autonomous.



This is one of the areas the SBC should attempt to address and correct, at least to the point where they establish a set of foundational principles that must be adhered to by churches within the SBC 


Then it would be more like organized religion...more like Catholicism.

#376480 Southern Baptists Unanimously Affirm Biblical Sexuality, Oppose ‘Transgenderism’

Posted by heartstrings on 12 June 2014 - 12:21 PM

 Our daughter cooks, makes jewelry, tends to her flower garden,  makes 'scrapbooks', wears dresses, goes to the beauty parlour, plays with babies, wears ear rings, and acts like a lady. Both of our boys love to bowhunt, gun-hunt, bowfish, frog gig, alligator hunt, skin snakes, drive pickup trucks, operate power tools, cut wood, and do the 'man stuff'...and they wear britches but no ear rings ***  Kids need a mama to learn the girly stuff and daddy to teach the man stuff. And when you have a sissy dad who won't lead (or who isn't around) or a mom who 'wears the britches', it's a recipe for trouble any way you look at it.


***not saying those are the only 'man things' but you know what I mean.

#376335 Regeneration And Believing.

Posted by heartstrings on 11 June 2014 - 11:19 AM

This is one they might misrepresent, but I'm not sure; I have seen them quote it before.


Jeremiah 1:4Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

5Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


Of course, careful reading will show that's not what it's saying at all.

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