I think just working out this bit is going to take me the whole weekend!
It's like this: My dad's oldest brother married the oldest daughter of a pentecostal preacher. And then my dad's second oldest brother married the youngest daughter of same.
The youngest sister passed away several years ago. The older daughter is still living (as are both uncles). She is a pentecostal preacher now. Complete with a wading pool out front of the church...where an "angel" stirs the waters for healing.
Yes, yes. That is my family. So much more could be said.
I've never personally met a pentecostal that DIDN'T have that view......
Me, either. One of my grandpas was a pentacostal preacher...he believed that, as did my dad's entire family - a whole slew of people spread out in a lot of churches in WVA. And all of the folks they married, etc. Interestingly enough, the only ones that believed in eternal security were my dad and one of his brothers-both of whom left WVA and got saved while in the Navy - and became Baptist.(my uncle was led to the Lord by Paul Chappel and in turn led my dad to the Lord. But because of his earlier training, my dad wrestled with doubt for a number of years. God gave him victory.)
There are some that seem to teach eternal security, but when you really nail them down, there is almost always something that can cause loss of salvation. The great majority teach that you must live a certain way to stay saved. Pereservere to the end...
It can only refer to an invading army? When it specifically says that the rider on the horse is the Word of God (John 1 shows us that is Christ) and is followed by the armies of heaven...all on white horses. It's kinda sad that man has to try and dilute what God has said...
Sorry, Ian, but you have absolutely no scriptural proof of James/Jerusalem church. It's conjecture. Mayhap everything else is, too, but there is at least precedence for it being the Holy Spirit that hinders evil, since God is ultimately in control.
Again, scripture is not clear that James and the Jerusalem church were the hinderers. That is pure speculation.
Pharaoh hardened his own heart first, just FYI...he chose the way he was going to go before God ever hardened his heart (I would call that kind of equivalent to how Christians are today...when a Christian repeatedly turns away from obeying God, He quits dealing with them - and I would most certainly say that when God quits working with someone their hearts are hardened, and consciences seared).
I didn't say anything about position. I said government. God ordained government because man needs it. He did not state that there was a certain style of government or even certain people who should or should not govern.
God has used evil to bring about things, but that does not mean it is His will. He allows it. God allows the government a people seeks - we see that clearly with Israel choosing an earthly king. Sadly, here in America, too many people have been convinced that a socialistic government is great and good, and too many people who know better are too lazy to do anything about it. That's God's allowance, but not His will. His will would be that nations seek Him and serve Him.
God allows. It isn't God's will for the garbage that goes on. His Word is quite clear about His holiness. He has used evil in the past to bring about change, that is for sure. But that doesn't make it His will. It makes it His allowance. Just as in the elections here in this country...
Governmentis what God ordained. Government. That is what Romans 13 is teaching.
Ian, you didn't use scripture to show that James and the Jerusalem church were what were withholding. You surmised, and there is no real scriptural support for that. James did not have the power to hold back the mystery of iniquity. Only the Holy Spirit can do that.
I thought that is what you were referring to. A commonly taught theory, but because it is what is usually taught it doesn't mean it is correct. The great thing about the KJV is that it has singular and plural pronouns, Take notice if them. pl pl s s s s pl pl
1 Cor 6:18, What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God,
There is one body and one temple, Not for your theory to be correct it would have to say something like "Know ye not that your bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit.
Matt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
It is not a theory, it is Bible. Pulling one verse out of many that help explain what that one verse is teaching does not a doctrine make. Context is vital for true understanding. As does dovetailing with other verses.
1 Cor 3 clearly teaches the same principle - Speaking about "any man", etc - "Know ye not [note that the same "ye" is used...plural, yes, but speaking to individuals, not just a church body] that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any mandefile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, whose temple ye are."
2 Cor. 6:16 "...WE are the temple of the living God..." Paul wasn't part of the Corinthian church...the "we" there was inclusive of him and any other believer...
1 Tim 1:13, 14 "Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me...that good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us."
Rom. 8:9-11 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."
John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
The Greek meaning for the word we have in Engish as temple is : "a temple, a shrine, that part of the temple where God himself resides." God dwells within His people individually.
Yes, most definitely where two or three Christians are gathered, God is there. How can He be otherwise when He indwells believers individually. Teaching that it is only the corporate body removes individual responsibility to remain right with God...
There are more, but I think these will suffice. During the OT economy, God dwelt in the temple made by hands...but now He indwells individuals as noted by these few verses.
For sure, where 2 or 3 are gathered He is there...but not in the same way that He was in the OT - by simply coming on them. But by indwelling.