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#385202 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on Today, 04:59 AM

I won't quote the whole of Revelation, no - but there is so much in there that is quite obviously not fulfilled in history.

Go ahead and make up your own ideas about what Scripture plainly says.

#385187 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on Yesterday, 10:44 PM

Who cares what protestants, Catholics, or southern Baptist preach - we are not they, and you constant accusations linking us to them are simply false.
You are trying to derail the point that you are not able to answer the Scripture that has been posted that denies your twisted form of dispensationalism.

#385174 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on Yesterday, 08:08 PM

No one is arguing that the Catholics are right, and very few here covenant theologians (rip into them all you like), but dispensationalism or not is not related to replacement theology in the way you are suggesting.

It has been plainly displayed by Bible verses that your different ways of salvation is wrong.
This is not anti-dispensationalist, nor is it aligning with Catholicism. It is aligning with the Bible.

NN for instance, who has biblically argued against you, I think I can safely say, is no replacement theologist, and has no love for Catholic doctrine.

If your argument for your line of thinking consists of this angle of attack, then you prove yourself bereft of valid argument.

#385109 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on Yesterday, 05:13 PM

What a load of tripe.

Simply reading the book of Revelation proves you wrong.

You have to ignore, change, twist, reinterpret, and lie about so much of Revelation to see it your way that is amazing anyone can understand it the way you do.

To prove you wrong I just have to quote the whole book - which I won't do for want of space.

#384945 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on Yesterday, 04:54 AM

Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 
Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. 
Rev 11:5  And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 
Rev 11:6  These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 
Rev 11:7  And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 
Rev 11:8  And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 
Rev 11:9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 
Rev 11:10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 
Rev 11:11  And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 
Rev 11:12  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 
Rev 11:13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 
Hmmm - doesn't look to me like they are "the Law and the Prophets", but two actual men who "shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth".
And the events recorded earlier in the book of Revelation don't appear to have happened either......

#384892 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on 31 August 2014 - 07:12 PM


Then why did Jesus tell the apostles to preach the gospel to every creature?

It's prophetic.  During the Tribulation (dispensation), the Gospel of the Kingdom will once again be preached... by believing Jews (Israeli's).  There will be Jews that are saved after the Rapture, and they will study the New Testament.


Right now, we are in the dispensation of grace, where the Gospel of Grace (through Faith, without Works) is being preached; and souls added to the Body of Christ.


Catholics, of course will tell you that there are no "dispensations", that everyone has always been saved the "same way", and that there is no future for Israel because the Church is "spiritual Israel",and that there is no "Tribulation" or "Rapture", etc. etc.

There may even be some Catholics on this board who are "posing" as IFB. and posting strange emoticons...



That is the strangest interpretation of the Great Commission that I have ever seen.......


And calling people catholics is no valid argument.


The plain fact is that the Gospel preached by John was the same as the Gospel preached by Peter, which was the same Gospel preached by Paul, which was the same Gospel preached by Jesus. 


NN in particular has done a wonderful job of presenting this by using SCRIPTURE which you basically ignore, re-interpret, and then non-answer by making catholic accusations which have absolutely no bearing on the issue.


Just because the Catholics have always preached a wrong Gospel is no argument against an everlasting Gospel.

#384868 Dispensations

Posted by DaveW on 31 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

It's not just you NN.........

#384653 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by DaveW on 30 August 2014 - 09:11 AM

The Millennium is not now.....

The Bible plainly lays out a number of things that occur before the millennium, and there is no historical record of these things being fulfilled.

That is aside from the obvious attributes of the Millenium that are not present today.

#384518 Dispensations

Posted by DaveW on 29 August 2014 - 08:07 AM

NN - like, like, like......... ;)

#383681 A Rib Or A Gonad More From Les Feldick

Posted by DaveW on 24 August 2014 - 08:32 PM

I think you would be better to say "bruise" as the Bible does.


I personally think it is pretty clear -

Gen 3:15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 
It says "her seed" 
Gal_4:4  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 
That is pretty clear.
An injury to the heel is an inconvenience, but not a final injury.
Christ died on the cross, but He rose again. He was injured, but not in a "final" way.
But Satan will be injured in a "final" way.
Rev 20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 
The battle will be between the serpent and the seed of the woman.
The Serpent will have a minor victory, but the seed of the woman will deal a blow of finality - a heel injury is an inconvenience, a head injury was then always a death sentence - and often is today even with all our medical advancement.
So what we have here is a promise that one would come to battle the serpent, and in that battle the One would be injured, but not fatally, and the Serpent would be fatally injured.


If that is not about Messiah being cut off and then rising again from the dead, and then Satan being triumphed over by Messiah, then I just don't know what it is.......


Yes I point some people to Genesis 3:15 to show the Gospel - I certainly don't leave it there, but this is the first promise of Messiah. Eve did not know the details, but she knew the promise.

#383459 <> God <>

Posted by DaveW on 23 August 2014 - 06:19 PM

Since you refuse to answer my simple and direct question on the first page, I have reported you.


I expect that you will soon be banned  - again - from this site.


I would suggest that all other members simply ignore this false teacher until the Mods deal appropriately with him.

#383023 Why Only Ladies?

Posted by DaveW on 21 August 2014 - 07:16 PM

My mum is seriously "go into shock" terrified of spiders.
If she finds one in the house, she screams.
When she screams, my dad comes, gets a cloth, picks the spider up gently, and as he is taking it outside to set it free, you can hear him say to the spider "You poor thing - did that lady scare you?"

It is really just soooooooo funny.

But Mum is never impressed.

#382809 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by DaveW on 20 August 2014 - 05:37 PM

Not meaning to discourage you - just keep your eyes wide open and your heart and mind Berean - search those scriptures (which you should no matter what preaching you are under).

#382799 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by DaveW on 20 August 2014 - 04:58 PM

Hey GS, personally, and based on the information you have given us, I would separate; but you know the situation more fully than us.
My only advice further is that if you choose to stay, keep your eyes wide open: I suspect that with this basic issue will come other issues, and some of them may be extremely subtle, but extremely important.

#382714 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by DaveW on 20 August 2014 - 02:36 AM

Hebrews 5:9 doesn't say all those continue to obey him.
It is obeying to salvation - must be, because it is eternal salvation being spoken of.
If it is eternal it can't end - or else it is not eternal.

Heb 6:6.....

Hoping you wouldn't bring that one up! (Joke).

It is a really hard passage because of the phrasing.
It says if they shall fall away, to renew them again to repentance....
Those words "renew" and "again" certainly seem to indicate the regaining of what they had before......

First thing to note is the use of "those", "they" - third person; whereas the rest is "we", "us", and "you".
It seems the writer is referring to other than the group including himself and the hearers.
Some people make a big deal out of "tasted", saying they had not accepted fully, but just "tried out" the Lord....
Not sure if I go along with that entirely.
And vs 5 says they were "partakers of the Holy Ghost"..... how does that fit in?
How can you be a partaker of the Holy Ghost, and not be saved?

You know what..... I am not sure.
This is one of those passages where I see it is talking about "those" not "us" and I see the great weight of verses that say "everlasting life", and I know that no man can pluck me from my Father's hand, and I say to myself "One day the Lord may teach me clearly what this passage means, but for now I must accept that eternal life is eternal, and I don't know how to reconcile this verse."

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