With that, I wold like to join the others in saying Merry Christmas.
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God didn't require 10% of all the Jews, just the farmers and herders.
The first tactic of the devil, all the way from the Garden of Eden, is to say... "Yea, hath God said???"
The devil wants us to doubt and water down the Word of God.
There are alot of man made rules in fundamentalism and I'm against each and every one of them.
But I firmly believe that the entire Bible has made a case for 10% being the basic, bottom line of what we should give.
If that's what you believe then that's how you should give.
Yet what God hath said to Christians is that we are to give according to as God leads in our hearts. If God leads you to give 10%, then that's what you should give.
I just don't understand the mentality that God would ask saved believers to give LESS than what Jews had been giving under the law for centuries. Everything I see in the New Testament tells me that people were following God's leading to give MORE than a tithe. In my opinion, tithing is basic...then God leads in our hearts to go far above and beyond that, "according to measure".
But of course this discussion will go on forever....we have to agree to disagree.
Peter told the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 that the Gentile Believers were not to be put under the yoke of bondage in the Mosaic Law. Gentile Believers were not to be required to keep the commandments of Moses... this included the command to tithe.
God sometimes leds me to give less - as in the church is being mislead, don't give. I think God also doesn't direct me to make an offering to a particular place as He hasn't been directing me to give exactly 10% - which are both types of laws, and the "tithers" have been making a law about how much and where both from OT law.
Since God was not a God of the Gentiles prior to the cross, I cannot believe that they were paying tithes to Him prior to the cross. There is no evidence that they did from what I can tell.
That said, it is absolutely wrong for pastors, or anyone else for that matter, to tell Gentile Believers today that they must give 'x' amount of their income to God.
The Gentile Believer should however pray to God asking Him as to what He would have them give and then give that amount cheerfully and willfully that they feel God wants from them.
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Posted by irishman on 10 May 2010 - 04:58 AM
I'm sorry if your local Methodist church was incorrect. I'm not sure if they are affiliated with the UMC, but I have taken confirmation classes and I promise they do not teach works based salvation.
Okay, I believe in love the sinner hate the sin. As far as homosexuality goes, Leviticus says that it is an abomination. Well guess what? It also says that I should go stone my mother for wearing clothes woven of different fabric. Oh and my uncle? He plants different crops side by side. So I guess i have to put him to death too. Perhaps you can advise me how to handle this situation according to Leviticus?
Posted by irishman on 06 May 2010 - 09:39 PM
So clearly we should spend all our time "soul winning." Next time I am faced with an opportunity to minister to the needy, I think I'll just tell the hungry child and the old lady with the collapsing roof who can't afford her thyroid medication that they must not be praying hard enough. Either that or they aren't true believers. In fact, I might just tell my priest on Sunday when he asks for volunteers to tutor disadvantaged school children that we should disband the program. Obviously, if these poor children had more faith they would make straight As somehow.
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