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#382742 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by ThePilgrim on 20 August 2014 - 11:05 AM

Here's a tongue twister...I believe a believer is a believer as long as the believer still believes. :-)

That is probably true if we are discussing Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, however not true when discussing my ever faithful and true savior Jesus who will never ever let me fall from His hand.

#382474 Last one to post in this thread wins

Posted by ThePilgrim on 18 August 2014 - 04:02 PM

I don't expect to find it hard to get used to heaven, having lived in Oregon most of my life.  :hide:

#382470 "Ban The Person Above You" Game

Posted by ThePilgrim on 18 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

Ban Pilgrim for being hesitant to get into the thread (how's that for no reason?   :nuts: )

Very cruel,  :tapping: so ban Happy.  :verymad: Oh" and Rosie too.

#382449 Iraq Or U.s.a.?

Posted by ThePilgrim on 18 August 2014 - 12:16 PM

It's interesting that the local police, after totally dropping the ball on the first night, initiated virtual martial law while denying they were infringing on citizens constitutional rights; and the Missouri governor denounced that and said he was taking over. Then the governor sends in the State police with orders to put on kids gloves. When that didn't work, and he/State police dropped the ball and allowed more rioting/looting, they started adopting more of the tactics the locals had finally used but with nice words sprinkled about. That didn't work. Now the governor has called in the National Guard but as of yet I've not heard their rules of engagement.


Meanwhile, the citizens and business owners are taking big hits.


If what they (the police and media) reported earlier was true, that a few small groups broke from the main protest group and they were the ones who rioted/looted, why weren't forces deployed to surround and arrest these small groups? Why on the first night the State police were in charge did the police refuse to respond to calls for help from citizens and business owners when shops were being ransacked and looted? Why weren't they at least prepared to deal with the same thing after that?

All good questions, John.  I don't know if they are rhetorical or not and I don't know if my answers are correct or not. (probably not)  I believe those in power desire things to get out of hand.  How else can they justify the Police State.  How else to justify their armed personnel carriers with mounted 50 cal. machine guns?  How else to justify military tactics against the populous?  We are not all rioters, we are not all criminals.  Only a tiny minority of even the black population is causing trouble . . . . but we need the National Guard?  Somebody thinks we need controlling and by any means necesary.


When they are out to get you, it is not paranoia that causes you to feel threatened, it is good sense.   :th_wellduh:

#382330 Communication

Posted by ThePilgrim on 16 August 2014 - 10:27 PM

Is not the communication on this site non verbal?

Yes indeed it is and I am glad it is.  You see some (such as I) have trouble with face to face communication.  I can't explain why that is, and I can't say it is a scientific fact, but it is a fact.

I can converse much easier with the written word than I can vocally, face to face.  I have a slow brain I guess, but I need time to pull together what I want to say . . . . to attempt to have it make any semblance of sense at all to another person.  And sometimes even after spending time to pull my thoughts together it still makes little sense to another person.  When speaking I do a lot of stumbling, trying to find a word that might communicate my thought to the other person in a coherant fashion.


I agree we should think about what we are going to say before we say it and I also think sometimes I think we should be silent.  The forum format gives the time to post or respond to a post after a time of thought.  We don't have to put our mouth in gear before the brain is fully engaged.  This brings to mind the posts on time . . . . we creatures have it . . . . lets use it.


I spent some time on this and it may not make any sense but it is what I wrote so I am stuck with it.   :th_wellduh:

#382299 How Old Is The Earth

Posted by ThePilgrim on 16 August 2014 - 11:36 AM

it was a Serious Question.  you either think "from everlasting goes back to the beginning of the six day work of God Gen1:3-31.  or it goes back before Genesis 1:1. 


What we can tell his throne, his person are from everlasting. 


Now when I asked how would you as a man attribute a length of time to be for "From Everlasting"

Time?  Time is something that does not effect God at all.  God was before time and is after time.  Time is a human experience.  God lives in eternity . . . . no beginning no end.  How can such an idea be measured by us?

 It cannot.  Everlasting is a word that will never be fully understood by me or anyone else until we experience it (and then not from it's beginning but it's forever more) in heaven.


Wow, I better get off this subject before I sound completely nuts.  How is it really possible to discuss things that have never been experienced without sounding irrational?

Sorry I tried to answer the question . . . .  :laff cry:

#382263 How Old Is The Earth

Posted by ThePilgrim on 15 August 2014 - 10:48 PM

How far back does "from everlasting" go?

How far is up?  :unsure:  How far is down?   :unsure:

#382262 Ny Farm Fined $13,000 For Declining Lesbian ‘Wedding,’ Ordered To Prove...

Posted by ThePilgrim on 15 August 2014 - 10:46 PM

I really wish someone would do this just to prove a point.

I believe the authorities might arrest and try such a person for hate speech.   :scratchchin:

#382223 Do You Feel Like You're All Alone?

Posted by ThePilgrim on 15 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

I must admit that much of the time I feel like Joshua (only with far less faith) and would like to go off and hide in a cave somrwhere and sometimes I feel like Jeremiah (except no visions etc.) because no one listens to me.

But then I come to my senses and realize that I am just a little man in the scheme of things and why would I think anyone should listen to me.  Also I am not the most most outgoing person in the world so why would I not be alone.


We can't all be popular.  I just live with it and do the best I can with God's help.  

And having this place to spout off once in awhile makes me feel a little better.  So hey, keep those likes coming.  I need them once in awhile.  :thblisshe5:

#382222 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by ThePilgrim on 15 August 2014 - 12:34 PM

I think thew biggest danger of the idea that you can lose your salvation is shown in the fact that everyone I have talked to who believes it ( not being God this is just my opinion) commits some sin or other at some time or other after their "conversion".  (Now I am just taking their word that they were "converted".)  Now since they have admittedly sinned since their "conversion" it seems to be by their own words (that if you sin you can lose your salvation), they must have lost their salvation.  But I have never talked to one who believes they have lost their salvation.  (I guess that just means other sinners and not them personally.)


Arminians seem to believe the loss of salvations only applies to others and not themselves.  Odd thinking.  Just as strange as an extreme Calvinists who believes only he has been chosen.


We all must ask ourselves, "Have I sinned since I claimed Christ as savior?"  

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


God bless,


#382063 Whats for Supper...

Posted by ThePilgrim on 13 August 2014 - 11:16 AM

I've got a chuck roast in the crock pot and later I will go out and pick some corn, just in time for dinner.

#381862 Last one to post in this thread wins

Posted by ThePilgrim on 11 August 2014 - 07:52 PM

In my school days they had had just developed pencil and paper.   :biggrin:

#380912 Psalms Set To Conservative Music?

Posted by ThePilgrim on 02 August 2014 - 11:42 AM

I've mentioned this before on here somewhere, so I won't go through the whole story again...but there's a lady (now deceased) who said that she discovered the music of the Bible has been there all along...in the various accent marks of the Hebrew letters.


I said it before, and I'll say it again...I'm not saying that I believe this. I guess it could be possible, but with anything like this...it's questionable. She put much of the Old Testament (including the Psalms) to this "music of the Bible", and a lot of it is really nice. This is the link to their Youtube channel if you want to peruse it. I think the featured video explains the story of how she "discovered" the music.



I suppose the melody line is okay for some but it just does not go well to my western trained ear . . . . or the other one either.  I would like to hear the Psalms set to some melody lines my ears are use to.

I would take a stab at it myself but they would all end up sounding like folk songs and that just wouldn't cut it either.  I do not like what the CCM crowd has done to them, that's for sure.

Their are some beautiful classical themes  and variations of such which might work.  The Psalms are beautiful poetry and they need beautiful music.

#380853 Things Are Often Not As They Seem

Posted by ThePilgrim on 01 August 2014 - 07:51 PM

When I was in grade school (Didn't have kindergarten in Dayville, Or. during the war) my favorite drawing subjects were soldiers, warplanes, and cowboys.  Lots of guns, tanks, artillery, and bombs.  I suppose if I were at the same school age today they would have me in the Oregon State Penitentiary prisoner education program.  I don't suppose that would be all bad though, maybe I could study criminal law and become a criminal lawyer (or is that lawyer criminal).  They would at least have had me on Ritalin or something else just as helpful to a young boy's psyche.


God bless,


#380678 Sheep Slaughter, And Hamas

Posted by ThePilgrim on 31 July 2014 - 02:02 PM

Straight answer from a Muslim to a Christian is not a requirement of their religion or ethical system.


God bless,


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