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ThePilgrim

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#392482 Father, Forgive Them

Posted by ThePilgrim on Today, 08:33 AM

Yes, but then all of their sins would have been forgiven at that moment.

 

The point you raise would lead us to ask if Jesus was only praying for those few who may have been converted or for all those who put Him to death.

 

If we broaden this consideration to include Stephen, we only know of Saul (who became Paul) being converted from among his killers; so was Stephens prayer only applicable to Saul/Paul or was he praying for all those putting him to death?

None of us really know who of the people that Jesus or Stephen prayed for in the instances discussed except for Saul became saved or not, so why do so many assume they did not?  Surely nobody assumes that the only people that were saved are mentioned in the scripture and those not saved are not.




#392417 Father, Forgive Them

Posted by ThePilgrim on Yesterday, 10:48 AM

How can I think that God would put limits on His forgiveness for others when I see that He put no limits on His forgiveness for me?




#392354 Way Of Life - The Hindu Trinity

Posted by ThePilgrim on 29 October 2014 - 10:45 AM

And after all the claptrap the people who believe that drivel end up with nothing of value  . . . . no salvation . . . . no heaven . . . . no Jesus. 




#392352 Last one to post in this thread wins

Posted by ThePilgrim on 29 October 2014 - 10:38 AM

John you just got me to thinking and remembering my past.  My forst memory is when I fell out of my parents car at the age of four.  Hmmmmmm.  That would explain a lot.




#392351 random fact game

Posted by ThePilgrim on 29 October 2014 - 10:35 AM

I could be wrong but it could be a fact that our world is also full of "dark" energy.




#392350 Father, Forgive Them

Posted by ThePilgrim on 29 October 2014 - 10:33 AM

My opinion.  In the case of Christ at least, the culprits were not immedietly forgiven, but were to be worked upon by the holy spirit who convicted them of their sin and they came to Christ at a later time . . . . some in minutes . . . . some in days or years.  Recall the statement of the soldier involved in the crucifixion?  




#392317 random fact game

Posted by ThePilgrim on 28 October 2014 - 07:39 PM

Yeah I know.  My crazy brother-in-law used to work at the cleaners  . . . . he has them now




#392136 Questions Only

Posted by ThePilgrim on 25 October 2014 - 01:34 PM

How do you think my brain feels after thinking them up?   :face:




#391352 The Never Ending Story...

Posted by ThePilgrim on 14 October 2014 - 07:38 PM

. . . . serve me pinto beans.




#391186 Whats for Supper...

Posted by ThePilgrim on 13 October 2014 - 08:15 PM

Simmered some homemade potato soup with lots of bacon in it all day, thickened it, and added some cheese and served it with some homemade biscuits with lots of butter an honey.  

MMMMMMM . . . .it was soooo good :thblisshe5:  :wow:  then I had a cup of good coffee.  :coffee2:   I'll have popcorn later I think.   :popcorn:




#390928 I Am New Here

Posted by ThePilgrim on 12 October 2014 - 03:00 PM

Calvin and Arminius were both mistaken in some of their doctrines (very important doctrines) so why do people want to call themselves by there names.  I read the bible, I follow the teachings of my savior and God,Jesus Christ.  I follow no man because I find that most of them are just as messed up about some things as I am.  All this to say, I am a Christian . . . . call me by no other name please.




#390836 Sorry No Cameras Allowed Here.

Posted by ThePilgrim on 11 October 2014 - 07:55 PM

Happens her too.  Could make me very angry if I were not such a cool-headed person.   :verymad:  :verymad:  :verymad:  :verymad:




#390609 What Madison Said

Posted by ThePilgrim on 09 October 2014 - 10:59 AM

Just reading and musing about things eternal and not so eternal this morning, things like liberty, justice, and the American way, and that sort of stuff.  I ran across a quote from James Madison in his Political Observations:

 

"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

 

Seems like my lifetime from 1938 to today has been filled with one war after another, for one reason or cause after another.  Were the reasons or the causes just or right?  I have my opinions, but then they in the end are just my opinions and so won't give them.  After all this is not about the reasons or the causes of war, it is about some of the things war causes.  

 

I think Madison hit the nail on the head.  Continuous war makes it impossible for the continuance of liberty.  

 

It just seems to go on forever.  When I was a child and even as a young man I gloried in the glorious victories of our military in it's various wars and thought it was a wonderful thing that our nation would set out to right all the wrongs on this planet.  But as I have grown older I have come to realize that it was an impossible task for any nation to do militarily what can only be done spiritually.  Even within a nation nothing can really be changed by force or coercion.  Only God can bring peace either to the world or the human soul.  

 

Forgive my musings.  Just reading the news seems to bring on these spells.  Sometimes I think I would be much happier if I couldn't read and were just really ignorant of what goes on in the minds of men.  




#390368 The Never Ending Story...

Posted by ThePilgrim on 07 October 2014 - 09:03 PM

And it sounded like this . . . http://www.wimp.com/banjobrothers/




#390362 Trying To Get On The Same Side As The World

Posted by ThePilgrim on 07 October 2014 - 08:28 PM

Compromise is very popular around this area.  Iv'e gotten in some discussions about compromise with other Christians and all I hear in return is compromising is a requirement for church growth and holding one together.

If a compromise between God and Satan were possible (which it is not) only Satan could come out ahead.  In today's society compromise is a good word (so they tell me).  Don't you believe it!  

I am not talking here about chocolate or vanilla or strawberry . . . . on that I think we might reach a compromise.  Neapolitan maybe.   :popcorn:






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