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#395423 Pilgrims & Baptists: The Little Known Connection

Posted by ThePilgrim on 01 December 2014 - 02:05 PM

Well as for me I don't remember being taught much at all in grade school (in the 40s and 50s) about the pilgrims except that they enjoyed a great meal with the indians.  I never attended highschool so I didn't learn anything there of course.  But in college (in the early 90s) I was told that the puritans and pilgrims were a bunch of bigoted religious fanatics who loved to burn witches and commited other heinous deeds.  Fortunately I am pretty much educated by my own reading and the school of hard knocks.  So I know that the puritans were not angels nor were they the devils spawn but they were good and they were bad . . . . they were human and people of their time.  Too many people tend to look at people of the past as if those people should be of the same mindset as people in our time, but time and circumstances make different people.  Flaws many and virtues many . . . . in the end . . . . only human.  I am certain that the Baptist sitting in your living room or study is not the same Baptist (by whatever name he was called) that was around in earlier times.

#395163 Mcdonald’S In A Church

Posted by ThePilgrim on 29 November 2014 - 11:04 AM

I have a feeling that a church with a Mc Donaldswill have preaching just as edifying as the food.  :th_wellduh:

#395067 Now Thank We All Our God

Posted by ThePilgrim on 28 November 2014 - 08:57 AM

Something I should have posted yeaterday.  Bettewr late than never.


#394797 Thank You

Posted by ThePilgrim on 26 November 2014 - 02:07 PM

I can believe they quote those in your list.  I believe they think those in the list were or are intelligent human beings.  But does that equate to being thankful?

Leftists only use the writings or sayings of the people mentioned to excuse their actions, to justify themselves.  

Thankful?  No, not really.  Being thankful requires the ability to think beyond oneself . . . . the ability to believe that people can do something for someone else without it benefitting themselves . . . . selflessness.

#394770 ...honour The King,

Posted by ThePilgrim on 26 November 2014 - 11:51 AM


#394721 ...honour The King,

Posted by ThePilgrim on 26 November 2014 - 08:49 AM

Why are the men (sometimes called The Founding Fathers) who instigated the rebellion against the God ordained power of King George such popular men in the eyes of American Christians?  Was it because there rebelion against God's appointed authority over them one somehow differernt than the God appointed authority over our reighning authorities?  I get so confused when I listen to the arguements in favor of never standing up to evil because the evil is believed to be God's will.  So confused.  

#394374 Cranky Old Man

Posted by ThePilgrim on 23 November 2014 - 01:04 PM

I didn't write this but it's how I feel.


Cranky Old Man
What do you see nurses? . . .. . .What do you see?
What are you thinking .. . when you're looking at me?
A cranky old man, . . . . . .not very wise,
Uncertain of habit .. . . . . . . .. with faraway eyes?
Who dribbles his food .. . ... . . and makes no reply.
When you say in a loud voice . .'I do wish you'd try!'
Who seems not to notice . . .the things that you do.
And forever is losing . . . . . .. . . A sock or shoe?
Who, resisting or not . . . ... lets you do as you will,
With bathing and feeding . . . .The long day to fill?
Is that what you're thinking?. .Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse .you're not looking at me.
I'll tell you who I am . . . . .. As I sit here so still,
As I do at your bidding, .. . . . as I eat at your will.
I'm a small child of Ten . .with a father and mother,
Brothers and sisters .. . . .. . who love one another
A young boy of Sixteen . . . .. with wings on his feet
Dreaming that soon now . . .. . . a lover he'll meet.
A groom soon at Twenty . . . ..my heart gives a leap.
Remembering, the vows .. .. .that I promised to keep.
At Twenty-Five, now . . . . .I have young of my own.
Who need me to guide . . . And a secure happy home.
A man of Thirty . .. . . . . My young now grown fast,
Bound to each other . . .. With ties that should last.
At Forty, my young sons .. .have grown and are gone,
But my woman is beside me . . to see I don't mourn.
At Fifty, once more, .. ...Babies play 'round my knee,
Again, we know children . . . . My loved one and me.
Dark days are upon me . . . . My wife is now dead.
I look at the future ... . . . . I shudder with dread.
For my young are all rearing .. . . young of their own.
And I think of the years . . . And the love that I've known.
I'm now an old man . . . . . . .. and nature is cruel.
It's jest to make old age . . . . . . . look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles .. .. . grace and vigour, depart.
There is now a stone . . . where I once had a heart.
But inside this old carcass . A young man still dwells,
And now and again . . . . . my battered heart swells
I remember the joys . . . . .. . I remember the pain.
And I'm loving and living . . . . . . . life over again.
I think of the years, all too few . . .. gone too fast.
And accept the stark fact . . . that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, people .. . . . .. . . open and see.
Not a cranky old man .
Look closer . . . . see .. .. . .. .... . ME!!

#394009 A Lot Of Talk About The End And The Rapture . . . . How Near?

Posted by ThePilgrim on 18 November 2014 - 07:55 PM

Do you want war?  I know I don't.  I know lot of people don't . . . . but it seems a lot of people who have a big say in what is going to happen seem to want war.  I  am just so tired of fools and the super intelligent advisors to the powerful who make stupid, dangerous and deadly decisions.  So tired . . . . come Lord Jesus.



#393477 On Slavery

Posted by ThePilgrim on 10 November 2014 - 11:34 AM

I only gotten half way through my reading of all that news that I set before me to read every day and I am down already.  I just finished my daily reading of the news in the Southeastern Ukraine and I can't help but think about the difference between the people there and the people here in the good old US of A.  What a difference.  The people there willing to suffer and die for the right to live their lives free from the oligarchs and neo-fascists in Kiev and the people in this country who have not the slightest idea of what freedom is.


Americans have become slaves and they don't even know it.  Because they are not whipped or scourged daily by a Simon Legree like character they think they have freedom.  Well they are wrong, and wrong in so many ways. 


The concept of voluntary slavery has been a constant theme across the ages as most people want to be led, told what to do, and will not question or contest those in authority. Liberty and freedom require effort, sacrifice, honor and a people with a strong moral character. The Roman people succumbed to tyranny by abandoning their liberty to despots for a full belly and grand spectacles.


The American people have succumbed to modern day banker, billionaire and politician oligarchs for a belly full of toxic corporate processed food, cable HDTV with 600 stations, iGadgets, a never ending supply of cheap Chinese produced junk at big box retail stores, Facebook, Twitter, 24 hour drive thru Dunkin Donuts joints, and an endless array of professional sporting events, all paid for with an infinite supply of cheap consumer debt from the Wall Street fraud machine. We live in a warfare/welfare surveillance state built on a foundation of debt, consumerism, and delusion, with no tears. The Americans have learned to love their servitude.  


Yes, the American slavemaster (so far) wears a velvet glove . . . . but for how much longer?


There I got it off my chest, but somehow I don't feel any better.  Think I will go read my bible for awhile.



#393130 Last one to post in this thread wins

Posted by ThePilgrim on 05 November 2014 - 10:43 PM

Did you have a prophetic vision of the coming reign of Christ occurring before the next election?

What a glorious day that will be!  But, no John I didn't.  Unfortunately I have never had a vision . . . . but I do have hope.

#393098 Last one to post in this thread wins

Posted by ThePilgrim on 05 November 2014 - 10:47 AM

Great, the election is over!!


Oh, wait a minute, now they'll be trying to tell us what all this does and doesn't mean and then we'll have to deal with a virtual two year run for president.



Cheer up, John.  Next election, they will all be good guys, all telling you the truth and no lies, no negative ads, nothing but honest John's and honest Pilgrim's just like you and I.  So relax every thing is fine.  :smug:

#393035 random fact game

Posted by ThePilgrim on 04 November 2014 - 06:09 PM

That sounds very scientific.  I'll go for that.   :popcorn:

#393015 random fact game

Posted by ThePilgrim on 04 November 2014 - 01:32 PM

Very good!   :clapping: Now show your source.  :bleh:

#393010 Presidential Crimes - Then And Now

Posted by ThePilgrim on 04 November 2014 - 11:44 AM

Another food for thought article by Paul Craig Roberts:



#393009 Election Day - For What It's Worth

Posted by ThePilgrim on 04 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

Not much I can add to this.  :hide:




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