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And Ye Shall Be Unto Me A Kingdom Of Priests, And An Holy Nation.

13 October 2014 - 08:50 PM

Exodus 19:5-6

Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant,

then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.
These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

 

Primitive Baptists

06 September 2014 - 10:23 PM

Primitive Baptists, also known as Hard Shell Baptists, Anti-Mission Baptists, or Old School Baptists are conservative Baptists adhering to a degree of Calvinist beliefs that coalesced out of the controversy among Baptists in the early 1800s over the appropriateness of mission boards, Bible tract societies, and temperance societies. The adjective "Primitive" in the name has the sense of "original."  Primitive Baptist churches arose in the mountainous regions of the southeastern United States, where they are found in their greatest numbers.

Despite having emerged as a recognizable group in the early 19th century, Primitive Baptists trace their origins to the New Testament era, rather than to John Calvin. In fact, they oppose elements of Calvin's theology, such as infant baptism, and avoid the term "Calvinist."  However, they are Calvinist in the sense of holding strongly to the Five Points of Calvinism and they explicitly reject Arminianism.

 

Excerpt from WikiPedia:  http://en.wikipedia....mitive_Baptists

 

 

OK, so we are still looking for the "original Baptists" that predated the Reformation and were not part of it.

One poster suggested that John the Baptist started the Baptists (Genevapreacher?).

Anabaptists Are Christians Of The Radical Reformation Of The 16Th Century

06 September 2014 - 07:01 PM

Anabaptists (from Neo-Latin anabaptista, from the Greek ἀναβαπτισμός: ἀνά- "over again" and βαπτισμός "baptism") are Christians of the Radical Reformation of 16th century Europe. Although some consider the Anabaptist movement to be an offshoot of Protestantism, others see it as a distinct movement. The Amish, Hutterites, and Mennonites are direct descendants of the movement. Brethren, Bruderhof, and the Apostolic Christian Church are later developments in Anabaptist groups.

This name was given them by their enemies in reference to the practice of "re-baptizing" converts who "already had been baptized" as infants. Anabaptists required that baptismal candidates be able to make their own confessions of faith and so rejected baptism of infants. The early members of this movement did not accept the name "Anabaptist", claiming that since infant baptism was unscriptural and null and void, the baptizing of believers was not a "re-baptism" but in fact the first baptism for them.

 

from WikiPedia: http://en.wikipedia....iki/Anabaptists

Historians Trace The Earliest Church Labeled "baptist" Back To 1609

06 September 2014 - 06:50 PM

Baptists are individuals who comprise a group of denominations and churches that subscribe to a doctrine that baptism should be performed only for professing believers (believer's baptism, as opposed to infant baptism), and that it must be done by complete immersion (as opposed to affusion or sprinkling). Other tenets of Baptist churches include soul competency (liberty), salvation through faith alone, Scripture alone as the rule of faith and practice, and the autonomy of the local congregation. Baptists recognize two ministerial offices, pastors and deacons. Baptist churches are widely considered to be Protestant churches, though some Baptists disavow this identity.

Diverse from their beginning, those identifying as Baptists today differ widely from one another in what they believe, how they worship, their attitudes toward other Christians, and their understanding of what is important in Christian discipleship.

 

WikiPedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptists

Which Comes First, The Messiah Or The Temple? - The Temple Institute

17 June 2014 - 08:31 PM

The Temple Institute has already recreated all the implements for the temple, including the clothes of the priests, and has trained the priests for the daily Temple ceremonies. 

As well, they have at least created the "corner stone" (if not the entire temple), and architectural blueprints and computer models.  As well, the Sanhedrin has reformed.

 

 

The Performance of the Torah's Commandments Does Not Depend Upon the Messiah

 

There are no Biblical verses that make a connection between the building of the Holy Temple and the arrival of the messiah. The building of the Holy Temple is a commandment that is binding upon all of Israel to fulfill, in every generation.

 

But it must be noted that there is a difference between the commandments that Israel are obliged to perform, and the prophecies referring to the appearance of the messiah. The prophecies are a Divine promise; a heavenly revelation concerning the appearance of the redeemer in the end of days.

 

Nothing can ever change that Divine promise. However it is important to understand that the arrival of the messiah is not dependent on anything other than the will of G-d alone. He shall fulfill His promise at the time that He deems fit.

 

In fact, if there really is a question as to "Which comes first, the messiah or the Temple," there seems to be ample indication that the building of the Holy Temple will precede the messiah's arrival.

https://www.templein...siah_temple.htm

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