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In Topic: Videos: Getting Excited In Church

Yesterday, 11:07 PM

Starts at about 35 seconds. Maybe you've seen it?


In Topic: Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Yesterday, 10:58 PM

I would ask you to present some proof that "95% teach tithing".


This is not my experience at all.


I have NEVER personally heard the tithe taught as a necessity in any IFB church I have ever been to.


I certainly am not saying it does not happen, but when people use terms like "95%" or even "most", I find it hard to believe.


I have heard people use it as "an example to follow, but only as the Lord leads", never as a necessity - the heart of giving is always emphasised.


So - prove it, or stop it.


Proof of "most" or "95%" or else stop saying it.


How about saying "Whenever people preach tithing as a necessity it is wrong"?


That I have no problem with.

At all.


In any way......


But stop making accusations that are simply not true.


It is not 95%, nor in my experience is it "most".


MY personal experience is that it is actually NO IFB church preaches it, but I have heard reports of some who do, so I would never say that no IFB church preaches - that would by just as wrong as saying "95%" or "Most".


"Some do" would be an acceptable statement - but not "95%".

Of course, I can only speak to my experience, but in the roughly 30 years I have been an IFB, going only to IFB churches from the west coast to the east coast, as well as every one I have visited, 100% of them have taught the tithe, as well as NT free-will giving on top of that. Basically, a 10% tithe is required, such that God will TAKE it if you don't give it. I said 95% yes, just off the top of my head, but the first church I have ever been in, mine is the first NOT to teach it.


So, yes, I admit, the 95% is not based up-on researched information, and I apologize for my assumption and incorrect information, but as I said, we can but speak to our experience, and I have just a little.

In Topic: Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

31 August 2014 - 06:33 PM

Home church?

In Topic: Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

31 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:  Rom 15:8


The Kingdom of Heaven was at hand and ready to be established on the earth - but was rejected.

The Body of Christ (ie: the "new man", the Church - composed of Jew & Gentile) wasn't even revealed until

Acts 9 when Jesus himself revealed this "mystery" (which had been hidden) directly to the Apostle Paul.

Then why did Jesus tell the apostles to preach the gospel to every creature? He wasn't just speaking of Jews, but every creature-yes, starting in Jerusalem, but then Judea, Samaria and the uttermost parts of the earth. Do you suppose He wanted them to only seek out Jews in those places? What did Peter preach to Cornelius, particularly when Peter had had no discourse with Paul to hear the gospel supposedly hidden until then? Indeed, Jesus made clear to Peter that there was NO difference bwteeen Jew and Gentile, but, in his own words, "God is no respecter of persons, but in every nation he that feareth Him and worketh righteousness is accepted of Him."


Later, in Acts 15, Peter says that the Gentiles were saved the same way as they, (the Jewish believers) were saved. "And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith...But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, we shall be saved, even as they." (Acts 15:9, 11).


In Acts 2, this is the beginning of the expansion of the church in Jerusalem-there was already a church in place, because those who were saved on Pentecost were 'added unto them". The church.

In Topic: Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

31 August 2014 - 06:10 PM

What if the only options are Churches that don't teach or preach from the KJV?  That is how it is in our town.  MV's, CCM, Catholic, Mormon or Jehovah's Witness.  Not any that I care to attend.

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

If the differences are such that the two can't walk together, then it's time to either move to where there is a good one, or start a new work. (And to be honest, I'm not sure that I would say that the tithing issue is a separation issue). If it was I could never be an IFB because probably 95% teach tithing. I think they are wrong, but if I give I give as a free-will offering, not a tithe-the guys doing the books can call it whatever they like.

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