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#386417 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 08 September 2014 - 12:12 AM

Gen, we are discussing how RC traditions have infiltrated influence Baptist theology.  It has and I only give some easily seen ones.


say what you like. 


It doesn't make it any less true.


Did you go to "the house of God" today?

I met with the house of God today


"But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth." (1Tim 3:15)

#385768 Star Wars Or Star Trek?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 12:07 PM

I liked it in the beginning but as I got older the Star Trek series either seemed to get more and more liberal and socialistic in content or I got more and more conservative so I stopped liking it.

Being a sort of addict to good science fiction writing Tte Star Wars junk was always just a little to juvenile for me.

So all in all I will have to vote for bummies even though chicken is more tender.

True-the original was like, :"Fly through space, fight bad guys, and kiss the alien women", It was pretty simple, though from time to time they did deal with issues like overpopulation and war and such, but it always becamse Kirk beating someone up and kissing some green woman who looked like Batgirl or Catwoman, (yes, Yvonne Craig and Julie Newmar were both on the original series)

#385764 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 12:03 PM

One has to also wonder that if we are made like Jesus, with resurrected form such as His, will we be able to pass through objects as He seemed and instantly go from one place to another? Perhaps any form of transportation will be more a matter of fun or entertainment, such as eating seems to be in the NH/NE.

Because its ALWAYS fun to drive a muscle car, even if we don't need to!

#385746 Prayer-Though Not Sure For What.

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 11:16 AM

An update:


:Last Sunday this fellow called and asked for a ride to church, so I went and picked it up. It seemed his feelings had lessened on it-he still believed I had shut him up, ot told him to be quiet or something, though he wasn't as sharp about it, and decided it didn't matter and apologized for how he acted. So, being a man, I told him if I had said something that made him feel as though I had shut him down, I was truly sorry, and assured him that his questions and input are always welcome, as are anyone else's, though I reminded him of how often I had answered his question and maybe he needed to let it go. So, we shook hands, he said it was in the past and would remain there, forgotten, (we'll see) and came to church and was just fine.


So thank you for all your prayers, and praise God for His answer.

#385742 Star Wars Or Star Trek?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 11:11 AM

I don't suspect tribbles would be very good to eat, because, since they are born pregnant, they would just be a ball of fur filled with tiner balls of fur. Not much room for meat in there! Maybe that's why the Klingons didn't like them-if you can't eat it or fight it, what's the point of it?

#385704 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 09:37 AM

I think we all need to reign in the use of the term 'fool' and all variations of it, because biblically, one who is a fool is one who rejectes the Lord and does not believe God exists, and I think we can all agree we don't fall into that category.


We also may disagree in these things, but let us attempt some more respectful attitudes in our disagreements. I am enjoying this thread, but if we can't respect one another even in our disagreements, I'll shut it down.


Thank you for your support.

#385687 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 04 September 2014 - 08:25 AM

Seems to me, if one doesn't knoW WHO Jesus is, we really can't have faith that He can do anything for us. Otherwise, we ask like Pharoah, "Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice...?"  Who is Jesus, that He can do anything for me?


Well, He is the Messiah, the promised one of God, revealed in Genesis 3 as the one who would bruise the serpent's, Satan's, head, which He did on Calvary. Etc, etc, prophecies, David, Solomon, etc..." 


What seems to be being espoused here by some is the basics of easy-believeism, "Just believe in Jesus and that He died for your sins, and you can go to heaven! Yay!"  ALL the information in the Bible about Jesus, from Moses and the prophets, the gospels and the epistles are 'able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus" (2Tim 3;15)  What scriptures do we think Paul was talking about to TImothy, that he knew from childhood? Certainly not the NEW Testament. Timothy was only half Hebrew, half Greek, raised by a Greek father and trained in both, but it wsas the OT that Paul lauded to him as being able to make him saved by faith in Christ Jesus. Not by the law or works or any such thing.

#385446 Shunned By Amish, Pastor Now Pointing Them To The Gospel

Posted by Ukulelemike on 03 September 2014 - 11:03 AM

Oh yes! That's where my community is and there so much to lose when you're own about being saved as Amish. There the belief that you're either Amish, very strict Mennonite in general or your going straight to hell. The bishops have a very strong hold over life. If course you also risk losing your family like I did. It's so much harder, for me, to have kept quiet to. I couldn't take baptism knowing that I'm lying and not going to follow ordnung.

It is always such a hard stand to take, when one's community is also the center of one's religion, or vice-versa. I know the Japanese whose families are strict Buddhists have that obstacle, as well as muslims. Few think of the Amish that way, but yes indeed, many of the orders of the Amish and Mennonites are just as bad, though fortunately they won't kill you for it, just put you forever out of their lives.

#385435 Shunned By Amish, Pastor Now Pointing Them To The Gospel

Posted by Ukulelemike on 03 September 2014 - 10:14 AM

I know the Amish, or at least the ones I met when visiting Pennsylvania at a food stand, carefully steer the conversation away from things of faith, as I tried to speak about the Lord with them. Good whoopie pies, but sadly, even those who may be saved, seem willing to let everyone else rot and go to hell for the sake of a misguided idea of separation.

#385413 Way Of Life - Millennial Glory And The Final Rebellion

Posted by Ukulelemike on 03 September 2014 - 08:25 AM

That last paragraph sounds good, until you compare it to Scripture.

Jud 1:3-4
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

We are also, at times, to share the Word of God contentiously.

It flushes out snakes and wolves, who have crept in unawares.

This does not include wringing ones hands and complaining that others are allowed to speak, but rather, teaching the basic doctrines over and over.

Exortation, Rebuke, and Reproval... all necessary.

I actually agree with both points.


I think we need to be discerning when dealing with various believers, because some can receive hard rebukes, while others need a gentler hand. Peter was tough enough to handle being called 'Satan' at his rebuke. Perhaps John, being the one who so often spoke of the love of Jesus, might not have been so able. people are different, and as such, we need to deal with them in different manners, but all in love. Of course Jesus was showing Peter love when He called him Satan, and peter was showing love to Simon when he rebuked him and told him that he was in the gall of bitterness. Simon also seemed to take it well, asking for prayer and not running away angry.


And certainly we are told to be kind one to another, but kindness doesn't stop us from plainly rebuking sin and error. I am one of those folks who is pretty well able to take a rebuke, because I have received so many in my life, (I was pretty rough around the edges as a youth), but some are more tender. But I believe that if our first love is the Lord, any rebuke should be received at least well enough to consider it, because we should always be checking ourselves and our hearts and motives and doctrines, because we are all flawed humans yet.


I may be beginning to ramble, so I'll stop now. Too early to wax theological.

#385321 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2014 - 06:29 PM

Jesus Christ,.


But believing he is the Christ does not save anyone.  the gospel of Grace is about his atoning death on the cross for all men.  Only belief on the cross of Christ saves.


up until Paul he death burial and resurrection was reserved only for Israel.


Anyone today who teaches that you get saved just by believing Jesus is the Chrsit, of the Messiah, or the son of God is teachig another gospel.

Up until Paul-at what point? When Paul was sent out of the church at Antioch, or the moment of his conversion?


And by the way, on Pentecost, who says all those saved were of Israel? They were of many nations, many languages, not just israelites who had migrated, but these were people who heard the languaes of the places where they were born. In 'our own tongues'. So, not of Israel. converts, perhaps? Jews, yes, but not necessarily Israelites.

#385293 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2014 - 03:46 PM

Much of the surface of the earth will be destroyed and the population decimated. 

I'm assuming that during the Day of Wrath (last 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation, Day of Jacob's Trouble),

Babylon the Great is totally destroyed, and hailstones and asteroids will have destroyed satellites, etc.

so that there is total economic collapse.  So, returning back to a pre-industrial civilization is the result.



And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares,

and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the

LORD of hosts hath spoken it.  Micah 4:3-4

That's why I am working on my solar-powered, electric car! Yeah, baby! I'll park it in my underground bunker in the desert, and when Jesus comes, I'll dig it up and drive it. Except I'll be resurrected and won't need it, soooo....

#385272 Videos: Getting Excited In Church

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2014 - 11:13 AM

Just up to the part where he grabs the mic...and then he tells the people some of them can't sing either.... heh


I guess that pastor never read the verse that says "Make a joyful NOISE unto the LORD..."  Never says make a pleasant sound, just a joyful noise.



#385269 Agreement/disagreement With The Pastor

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2014 - 11:06 AM

Okay, you're right-back to agreement'disagreement with that pastor.


I admit I don't always agree with my pastor. The sad thing is, I'M the pastor! Which means sometimes I find myself to be incorrect on something and I need to go back and make things right.


Last Sunday I taught on the subject of holiness, as in "Be ye holy, for I am holy", and discussed what it was to be holy, ie, set apart, sanctified and separated unto the work of God.


I spoke about it to the tabernacle and the temple, the holy place and the holiest, or holy of holies, the two places particularly set apart for the service and worship of God.  And I spoke briefly about the church building, which, in itself, is just a building, but it is something that, being set apart for service for the Lord, does, indeed, become, by that standard, a holy place. This is why I teach that a church building should not be used for other purposes, like AA meetings or community meetings or the like-it is set apart, separated, holy unto the work of God, and should be treated as such.


Later as I thought back on the lesson, it occured to me that I did not give such teachings about the building when we had it, and, living in it for a while as I did, it just became like my house, and not as a place holy and separated unto God. And because I never taught about it as such, I wonder if those who are there did not think of it as important, either and thus, it was taken from us-because no one really cared about it from the perspective of being holy to the Lord's work.


Don't misunderstand me-I didn't destroy it or treat it terribly, but not being the greatest housekeeper, living in it did make a mess in some of the back areas, at times, and since we lived toward the back part of the church, aspects of it could not be used for their assigned purposes.


So now, I find it was probably much my own fault we are where we are, and as such, I find myself at odds with my pastor's past practices and as such, I have confronted him and found him willing to turn and repent and do right. He's a pretty cool guy-lol.

#385251 Dispensations

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2014 - 09:26 AM

Ok, got it.

I see it as teaching the opposite of the renewal of sacrifice.

I see it as saying that everyone's own pot, in their own house, is now sacred, and everyone a priest, taking his priestly portion from his own pot.

I agree. It means, as far as I can see, that EVERYTHING is holy unto God in that time-not just the holy items in the temple, but ALL pots and bowls everywhere will be holy before the Lord, all set apart and anctified to the service of God. Interesting to note, as well, that upon the bells of the horses, it says HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD, because horses were an unclean animal under the law, but here, even the horses are holy unto God.

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