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Ukulelemike

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#342200 Texas Tech Student Allowed To Wear Pasta Strainer In Driver's License Photo

Posted by Ukulelemike on 03 September 2013 - 04:40 PM

 A fellow in a spaghetti strainer hat-folks, this is our next generation! These are the kind of important stands they want to fight for. Its no wonder someone like Obama got into office a second time.




#342052 Message For Owner Of This Website.

Posted by Ukulelemike on 02 September 2013 - 12:09 AM

What will be his next identity? Rudalfo Puppysleeves? MasterofDestiny? SaintEarleBloodyknuckles? Stinky Weasletips? MonkeySlap? Its anyone's guess!




#341723 Law Or The Prophets

Posted by Ukulelemike on 30 August 2013 - 01:26 AM

I appreciate and understand your working on the day we have set aside to worship. However, your work is dedicated to the service of the Lord, so I believe he will allow you to pluck ears. I won't condemn you either.

 

I believe I would be safe to say we all keep a day (Sunday) as a day dedicated specifically to the worship of my Lord. Also, many if not most of us keep more than 1 day dedicated to the Lord's service and worship.

 

Besides Paul's comments on "esteemeth" days would also apply. So we are adhering at least to a principle outlined in the 4th. A day we dedicate to the Lord; or for some of  us, more than a day.

 

How about the other 9?

Except that the first church met every day, not just on one day.

 

As for the other 9, they are adjured to us in the New Testament, so we know we should keep them-we just are not going to be ultimately judged by them. Of course, Jesus aptly summed them up in the two commandments, so really, if we follow them we will, of necessity, fulfill all the other nine.




#341672 "gentlemen.....we Have A Situation Here..."

Posted by Ukulelemike on 29 August 2013 - 04:46 PM

Since when did a christian church have an altar?

Just the front of the church, often called an altar, since its where one can go and pray and 'sacrifice' one's self to the Lord, give your body a living sacrifice. Its purely symbolic, a place to pray, make decisions-I find often when one makes decisions publicly at the altar, before everyone, they tend to be more serious about it.

 

We have never had a fight like this but we used to have a lady at our church who tended to be contentious-being newer in the church I was careful in how I dealt with her, since she had been there so long. One day, however, she got into a verbal with my WIFE, of all people. Before we were married, she accused us numerous times of fornication, even saying we had 'done it in the church'. She told the former pastor of the church, a friend of my former pastor, that she had seen my (at the time) friend, (not even dating then), running around in my house in a 'thin gown'. (Like we would leave the front window open if she WAS!) Oddly, the old pastor knew her as a liar-in fact, had warned me about her when I first became the pastor. He, in turn, called MY pastor, who called me about it and threatened to not ordain me, (I was licensed, not ordained yet), because I had moved a woman in with me.   Of course, I couldn't act against her yet, because it would seem like I was trying to cover up something by putting her out. I went and spoke to my pastor personally, explained things to him, and he believed me and all was well there. Then I went before the church for morning service, explained the situation as it was, rebuked them, and told them, they had voted me in, believing the Lord wanted them to, and if they believed I was wrong, to vote me out, and I left. I'm still here, so it went well enough.

 

Anyways, so this lady starts in with my wife, I don't even remember what it was about. My wife defended herself, but it began to get loud-fortunately no one else was there. So, I stepped in, sent my wife home, and told the other lady to settle down or I would ask her to leave for good. She told me, "You can't do that! This is a public place and I can be here if I want!". I told her, "No, its a private place, and you aren't welcome. If you come back, I'll ask you to leave once and then the police will be called, until you're ready to repent of your attitude and lying." She never came back.




#341589 Did Jesus Save You From Your Sins?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 29 August 2013 - 02:08 PM

If the devils do not fear you and tremble at your presence then you are not right with God.

In case you don't get it., you have a contentious spirit, so everyone is ignoring you. We don't fear you, and I suspect the devils have little fear of you either, because you are essentially taking their part.

 

See, its one thing to come together as brethren and discuss, even kindly contend, over the faith-its another thing to ask loaded question and argue every sing answer given, as though you are a master of all things scripture. You have a poor spirit, all you come to do is fight, and no one wants to participate anymore. That's why you keep getting banned, and you can expect to be so, again.

 

Maybe you should spend some time reading some of the many former posts in Onlinebaptist-you'll find much more about what folks believe, than you will utilizing your flawed methods of loaded questions and prepared answers.

 

"[As] coals [are] to burning coals, and wood to fire; so [is] a contentious man to kindle strife." (Prov 26:21)

 

"Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised [is] wisdom." (Prov 13:10)

 

"A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes."  (Prov 18:6)




#341574 Law Or The Prophets

Posted by Ukulelemike on 29 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

And how many of us here do our best to keep the fourth commandment? The Sabbath? We all cry to keep the 10 commandments, but do we keep the Sabbath? It IS one of the ten. Sabbath-keepers, raise your hands.




#341402 Did Jesus Save You From Your Sins?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 28 August 2013 - 08:16 PM

Everyone says I love you,

The great big mosquito when he bites you

The fly when he's stuck on the fly-paper, too

Says I love you!

 

Everytime the cow says Moo

She makes the bull so very happy, too

And the rooster whe he hollers Cock-a-doodli-doodli-doo

Says I love you!




#341278 Way Of Life - Man Wants Me To Kick Large Pastors Off Our Church Directory

Posted by Ukulelemike on 28 August 2013 - 02:05 PM

Funny timing as this issue came up in church recently. There was discussion about how Baptists go after Episcopals for having a drink of wine and Episcopals go after Baptists for their gluttony. Meanwhile, both are ignoring an open sin problem.

 

Even in those with slower metabolism, they don't have to be obese, it still comes down to a matter of how many calories one takes in compared to how many are burned off.

 

The reason there are so many jokes about Baptists and food, which most of us know several ourselves involving buffets, church dinners and pastor coming over for a meal, is because there is such a ring of truth about it and that's why we find them funny, because the jokes tend to either hit home with us or we know Baptists they fit perfectly.

 

Baptists do tend to rate some sins as worse and the ones they are more likely to be involved with as less important, something to joke about or ignore; and other denominations often do the same with different sins.

As a big man who has been big since high school, I can tell you that its not even about calories in vs calories out. There is much more to it.

 

When I was in the Navy, I worked with a fellow who ate virtually continually through the day-he always had candy, chips, soda, something in his hand. At meals, he ate easily twice what I did; yet, the man was not just thin, but well-built. I never saw the man work out, and he sid he never did. When we went out to sea for a cruise, he began weight-lifting, as many of us did, while still eating the same garbage, and the man looked like a competitive bodybuilder in a few months! 

 

Now me, I ate salads, ran a couple miles a day, biked 12 miles a day, 6 to work, and 6 home, and all I could manage was to maintain my weight. if I stopped the workouts, I gained. I have never been a big eater, generally-speaking. About a year ago I gave up sodas and rockstars, (my drug of choice), and spontaneously lost 25 pounds. Since then, without changing anything, I have gained it back, with some extra, and for the first time in my life, I have exceeded 350 pounds. Yet I am active, I work hard at my job and on my farm, walk to and from work, eat primarily chicken, whole grains, little sugar. Yet, here I am. Apparently a glutton.

 

Those who have never struggled with the inability to lose weight, or an inability to gain weight, will never understand.

 

As well there are many things being put into the American diet that cause permanent weight gain-MSG, for example, has been shown, when given to young children, will effect their weight for their lives. Whenever scientists want to do obesity studies, they feed MSG to baby rats and they become quickly and permanently obese. And who knows now what the various genetic modifications to our food supply are going to do in the long run.

 

Believe me, by experience, I know that it is far more than calories or fat or exercise. There are a whole range of things that can cause obesity, and many times, it can be truly irreversible.




#341244 Law Or The Prophets

Posted by Ukulelemike on 28 August 2013 - 11:44 AM

It aggravates me when people who see the teaching of Jesus being the end of the law for righteousness as somehow meaning we are without a law, or are lawless, that we believe we "just get on with life without worrying about keeping the Law - because you can't".

 

9 of the 10 commandments are repeated in the New Testament-it is obvious that we keep them. The difference being, our righteousness is not dependent upon it, because we are covered by the righteousness of Christ; we are justified by His righteousness. We do not keep the 10, for one was specifically given to Israel, the 4th, the seventh-day Sabbath. The other nine we keep as rules for living, along with many other commands given throughout the NT for the saved. But we will NOT be judged by the law or commandments-the lost will, but we will not.

 

Why did the Lord ensure that nine of the ten were repeated? because it was not to be just taken from the old-that has been done away in Christ, fulfilled by Him.  The commandments, written and graven on stone, were a ministration of death and condemnation,n abd have been done away. While some of the same things apply today, it is not because they were part of the old, but have been given fresh in the new. New wine in new bottles.




#341240 Did Jesus Save You From Your Sins?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 28 August 2013 - 11:04 AM

He died on His cross for me, as for all the world. "Behold, the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world"




#341091 Law Or The Prophets

Posted by Ukulelemike on 27 August 2013 - 01:50 PM

First, we keep in mind that the gospels were part of the Old Testament, until Christ did and resurrected.

 

Next, why does Jesus say he came, in  these verses? "To fulfill the law, (and prophets).

 

When does Jesus say the law will pass, (jot and tittle)? When all is fulfilled. Which Jess came to do-fulfill. Once fulfilled, they no longer apply TO THOSE THAT ARE HIS.

 

Jesus lived and taught the law because He was a Jew under the law, until He fulfilled the law. Now, Jesus is the end of thew law for righteousness to those who believe. Those who reject Him will be judged by the law, those who believe on Him will be judged by our works for rewards, but salvation is secure.  




#340931 What Would Be The Right Way To Do This?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 26 August 2013 - 07:22 AM

If someone was to write a truly solid article/document completely and clearly expounding the "true" King James Only position then what would be the right method for developing that? What would be expected by the Author? by believers? by those we wish to be a witness to? Prayer? Fasting? Listening to what other men of God have to say? What is enough? What would be the right way to do that?

As much as I hate to do this, I must ask, WHICH 'true' King James Only position do you refer to? I ask this because, I believe that I hold to the 'true' KJV only position, but there are those who would have disagreement with me, and say that THAY hold to the 'true' KJVO position.

 

I agree with the former posts that there are other excellent examples already available. I myself find Sorenson's "Touch Not the Unclean Thing" an excellent book on the subject. However, because there are others out there does not mean there is no room for another well-written and researched book on the subject.

 

As to the Lord's calling on this, if you have a heart to do so, I would say, do it. If its on your heart, who here is to say it is not put there of the Lord? Yes, pray about it, fast over it. Yes, talk with other godly men. And there is a huge amount of good information out there-I'd say you can't use too much information. You will also want to include the alternate version of KJVO, and spell out biblically what you disagree with it.




#340555 Pastor’S Salary Cap

Posted by Ukulelemike on 22 August 2013 - 11:17 AM

Believe it or not, it is about missionaries and evangelists. 

I suggest you check out a book on amazon called Freedom to Give by Daniel Mynyk.  He explains perfectly with enough Scripture that the context of 1 Corinthians 9:14 reveal it is not speaking about pastors.

 

 

Well, since I have the entire Bible to work from, I don't really need someone else's writings to see the context-the Bible must be compared with the Bible. 

 

The point I made above, concerning not muzzling the mouth of the oxen that treadeth the corn being used in both contexts, in 1Cor 9, as well as 1Tim 5, shows that the same concept applies both to evangelists and missionaries, (as Paul and Barnabas), other apostles, AND elders/pastors-the concpet has a clear meaning in both places: they that labour in the gospel have a God-ordained right to live of the gospel, to receive sustenance and maintenance directly from the labour of the gospel. You MIGHT make the argument that 1Cor  9 refers only to evangelists and missionaries, as Paul is referring to himself and Barnabas, (as well as the other Apostles, who, by the way, were all in Jerusalem, not out travelling), though I disagee that it MUST only refer to him, but  1Tim is clearly speaking to pastors/elders.

 

So, no, it still doesn't wash. I see and understand your point, and I applaud any pastor who is not in the work for the money-I, myself being bi-vocational, but there is a clear mandate, from back into the Old Testament following into the new, that those who labour in the work of God have a right to live off the work of God.   




#340533 Pastor’S Salary Cap

Posted by Ukulelemike on 22 August 2013 - 07:38 AM

"Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? Or saith he [it] altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, [this] is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. If we have sown unto you spiritual things, [is it] a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? If others be partakers of [this] power over you, [are] not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live [of the things] of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel."

 

Now, I am having a real hard time seeing this applying only to evangelists and missionaries, but not pastors. Do pastors labour in the work of the gospel? So pastors sow spiritual tings to those of their church/community? If so, then they are eligible to live of the gospel and reap carnal things of the church. Just because Paul speaks of himself and Barnabas in the context, does not mean it applies ONLY to them-the clear context would be anyone who labors in the work of God.

 

The comparison is also given of the priests-when working in the temple, they lived off the things given to the temple-a portion was commanded, by God, for the priests to receive-they were not missionaries nor evangelists;they specificallt remained at the temple to do the work of God and to serve the people-so do Pastors.

 

Also, the same example, of not muzzling the oxen treading out the corn is used in relation specifically to elders who rule well, in 1Tim 5:17 & 18, in a letter written to a new pastor, Timothy, so again, the implication is clear-it is the right and ordination of God that an elder, or pastor, should live off the gospel. And in fact, if we understand the context clealry, that it would be his right to partake of it as he has need, or sees fit, as an ox would, as he was hungry, reach into the corn that he is treading out, and eat of it. The owners were not to muzzle him, or control him so he can't take of it at will. If we had more honest pastors out there, perhaps it would be right for them to just give them a credit card to draw from as they need, and perhaps give acount at the end of each month or quarter-it would more fully fit the mandate, I believe. 

 

So again, the context in no way even implies that this is for missionaries or evangelists, but for all whose labor is in the gospel.




#340375 Pastor’S Salary Cap

Posted by Ukulelemike on 20 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

the verses appear to show a reversal. Yes.

And Paul seems to say those who are sent out are to be supported

But pastors and elders are not "sent." They are stationary. There is no Scripture that justifies salaried pastors. There are plenty that show the pastors must work though.

Of course they are 'sent': they are sent to be pastors in a specific place, from where, or what they had been before. I was 'sent' from Reno, NV to Herlong, CA to be a pastor. I am sent.

 

Jesus told His disciples: "Then said Jesus to them again, Peace [be] unto you: as [my] Father hath sent me, even so send I you." What happened to most of those jesus 'sent"? They became pastors in Jerusalem.






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