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In Topic: Way Of Life - Hating The Rapture

25 November 2014 - 09:49 AM


Wow. They said somewhat the same thing about the Lord. That must mean...?


Matthew 10:25  It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?


Matthew 12:24  But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but byBeelzebub the prince of the devils.


Luke 11:19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.



No insults intended and I could be directing this to myself and all those who hold to a literal Scripture interpretation and not the imaginative preterist view which could so easily be twisted in any direction.

BUT because I hold to this literal interpretation and at times, accept typology, I DOUBT my way of thinking is influenced by anyone or any spirit apart from the Holy Spirit.


The dangers of subjective interpretation is obvious to most. If one abandons literal interpretation as the predominant method of interpretation then you are open to any imaginings of the mind, preconceived notions of doctrine or other spirits.


It takes no brain scientist to know that the worlds religions are all backed and promoted by demonic principalities intended to keep the lost, lost and religious. The same type of influences work within fundamental groups  in my opinion.


I know you three amigoes all claim that your subjective views of Scripture are literal but you are wrong. You presume that appling man's twisted records of history to your Scriptural views lend them weight when they actually do the opposite. It causes you to ignore way too much literal interpretation for me and most to accept the ideas.

In Topic: Way Of Life - Hating The Rapture

24 November 2014 - 10:42 PM

So, you've never seen a parrot?

Or, you possibly did, but couldn't discern it from a crow, cuz you aren't a parrot?

The South called, they want their dufus back. Run along.


All fun aside mr prophet. The problem we have here is whether the same Spirit of God would teach born again believers so drastically different in this or any other fundamental doctrine.

You and your couple of buddies on this forum are not being taught for the Holy Spirit at all but another spirit. Whether the spirit of some prideful muttenhead whose books you worship or a worst spirit only the Lord knows.

In Topic: Way Of Life - Hating The Rapture

23 November 2014 - 10:39 PM

Oh, it seems you dont read the Scripture for yourself, or you would have seen this:

1Th 5:4-5
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day:we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Apparently, you are just parroting others, and can't even read IThes 5- 2Thes 2, or you would know that only the lost will be surprised by this 'thief in the night'.
Maybe many of the teachers, like Darby, weren't children of Light, who you parrot second hand.

There is not one single hint towards a "Pre-Trib" Resurrection, in the Scripture.

Try using the Biblical terms, first of all.


Only a parrot thinks he can recognize another. Aint that right little birdie

In Topic: Way Of Life - Hating The Rapture

22 November 2014 - 10:46 PM

I do kinda 'hate the rapture', also. It just gives people a false hope that we will not suffer any persecution. 

Some in the Baptist realm need to read 2 Timothy 3:12 and think a bit....


Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


Well, sorry to say this but if a person were living for the Lord today they truly would understand persecution far more than any other human on earth.

In Topic: Way Of Life - Hating The Rapture

22 November 2014 - 10:41 PM


Are you referring to the Second Coming or the catching away of the Church (slang is Rapture)? Your Scriptural references apply only to the former and not the latter. You remember the Scriptures dealing with the catching away of the Church, don't you? You know the whole thief in the night; the hour no man knoweth, two in the field, one taken; etc etc etc.


If you want to be here for the trib my friend, I recommend you collect and study every doomsday show on the discovery channel you can find. You will need it or just surrender your head without any attempt to evade and survive.The idea that believing in a mid or post trib/pre-wrath catching up, means one 'wants to be here for the trib' is error. No one in their right mind would want to be, but when one's study finds no clear passages of scriptuire that says otherwise, and the only really clear scripture declares it to take place just prior to the outpouring of God's wrath AFTER the tribulation, then what else can we do? By the way, it isn't TV shows and movies or works of fiction I will seek to, but to the Bible. Not much chance to survive and evade, at least not for long. In fact, most WILL die, because it will be given to the Antichrist to make war with the saints, and to overcome them. I suspect there will be far more going up first, from the grave, than "we who are alive and remain".


It would be a shame if you are the only born again person prior to the Lord coming in the air not spared from this great tribulation. Who will you talk to about being left behind? It will be lonely for you. (I am poking fun-please forgive) Maybe not as lonely as you believe.


Of course, if you are born again, you won't be here whether you have been deceived into mid or amil or not. Hey to each their own I suppose but it amazes me that folks can actually confuse the differences between the two events in Scripture. Still haven't seen the scripture that proves this out, that Christians won't be present for the tribulation time.


But hey, apparently there are diverse group of religious folks on this site supposedly being lead by the Spirit in their study of the Scriptures and almost none of them agree on much of anything, even repentance unto salvation. Can't argue that.



I have said it before in these sames debates. there is little Scriptural evidence on a whole to support anything but a pre trib rapture. What don't you folks get about "no man knoweth" and thief in the night. 3.5 years into an obvious reign of an antichrist is HARDLY no man knoweth.

This aint rocket surgery Mike, come on.

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