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In Topic: Understanding Hebrews -2

12 October 2014 - 10:01 PM

Can you tell us which one's you are referring to, please.


The folks that keep quoting men, it is sad. Regardless of century, they are just muttenhead's like us with the same wretched flesh we have. Not to mention THEY ALL WANTED PAYMENT.


Where in God's Word does He even hint at us writing about Him and His Word? Making merchandise of God is all He says of it. His Word is complete and any additional books about Him is outrageously arrogant.

In Topic: Understanding Hebrews -2

12 October 2014 - 08:56 PM

Many in this thread base your faith on men's ideas. It is shockingly pathetic.


Get in the Book. Be learned of God and not of men.


The most grossly overt in men's learning are obvious in these threads. Bible study to them is what I have mentioned before - muttenhead's ideas in books sold as filthy merchandise of God. 

In Topic: Understanding Hebrews -2

10 October 2014 - 03:02 PM

Good points all - well not really


Take it with a grain of salt and learn to laugh at yourselves because after all, everyone else is laughing at you :) 


Seriously though, I disagree with this statement John:  The various debates over different eschatological views has long carried on and has hashed and rehashed the same material over and over and yet not one particular view has been able to present a 100% airtight case that makes every point of that view clearly accurate and true.


There is no logic in that statement simply because noone has an airtight case over any Scripture, we believe it by faith and faith only. Get in the Book and stop "considering" what any muttenhead is teaching. Noone in this thread is a babe, why are you still considering what men say. Your local pastors/elders are the only men authorized by God to give you lessons. And even those require searching for yourself in the Word to make sure they are right.


Bible study is not 5 minutes of forced reading of the Word to get through it and then you read some dude's interpretation of it for an hour. That is the kind of Bible study that has kept ignorance alive in IFB circles for generations now. Not to mention isolated pockets of whacky ideas like preterism. Not to mention men worship, as had developed in some of the biggest IFB churches in the world back in the 80s and 90s and is reemerging today in some areas (we meatsacks have very short memories).


I will tell you how those things happened, when you started buying some dude's books and put his muttenhead ideas beside God's Word to help you learn. It went to his head and the rest is history.


Get alone with God and stop searching men's ideas.

In Topic: Rapture

10 October 2014 - 01:26 PM

uh yes.....

I mean no....

errr...what was the question?

In Topic: Opportunity Or Not

01 October 2014 - 08:24 PM


John 3:1 ¶  There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2  The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9  Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Just a thought.  How could Nicodemus be expect to have known about the new birth if it isn't in the OT?  That was all the scripture that he had.



God changed His dealings with man again in the NT because even the brightest couldn't see it without the indwelling Spirit. Most saved can't figure out the NT et al WITH the indwelling Spirit. This is why God poured out His Spirit after Christ's Resurrection to aid man to come to Him and to understand Him after they come. It is painfully obvious man was hopeless in understanding God without the Spirit.


You seem well versed in the OT Scriptures, could you have figured it out even now? It makes logical sense that Jesus was demonstrating this point and not the expectation. Nicodemus was a natural man, not a born again, indwelt by the Spirit man.


The natural man can make no sense of the Gospel as clearly laid out and step by step explained in the NT without the Spirit's aid and it is not a hidden mystery as in the OT, it is plain as day and clear in black and white. The few that understood the Lord before the NT were severally aided by God through mighty wonders, signs and miracles and still struggled to keep the faith in between those signs, wonders and miracles. Even throughout Christ's 3.5 year ministry, He still demonstrated signs, wonders and miracles before the Spirit was poured out to aid in man's belief.

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