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#399832 Do You Believe That Divorce And Remarriage Is Acceptable ?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 29 January 2015 - 09:57 AM

Sadly, too many believe that if one believes as the Bible teaches, that divorce DOES have acceptable reasons, even by God, that it ipso-facto means one is pro-divorce. I think most people who have been divorced are generally very anti-divorce, having been through the pain and trouble it inevitably causes.

 

I love my wife dearly, but if I could go back in time with the lessons I have learned, I would have done things differently in my first marriage. Of course, one of those things I would have done differently is to NOT marry my first wife, because I know we were incompatible, particularly spiritually, but not living a God-centered life when I met her, it was all about hormones. I suppose if I could have gone back in time, I would have gone to meet the woman I am married to now, and began a relationship with her...well, except that she wasn't saved until much later in life.

 

So really, its a good things we can't go back, because we would still mess things up!




#399675 A New Face

Posted by Ukulelemike on 26 January 2015 - 12:07 PM

AH...a mole of satan, no doubt!

Apparently, they are legion. lol




#399339 Famine Coming Soon

Posted by Alimantado on 20 January 2015 - 11:47 AM

Whats your address Eric? You aren't far from me and my stomach is a growling fierce this morning.

 

I'm not a fussy eater but put it this way: if I was running a restaurant I wouldn't advertise a pound of wheat from an animal feed depot fried in butter as a 'time of plenty breakfast'.




#399182 Boy Says He Didn’T Go To Heaven; Publisher Says It Will Pull Book

Posted by Standing Firm In Christ on 17 January 2015 - 03:13 PM

Yeah, malarkey's story was malarkey. As are all the other Heaven/Hell visitation stories we hear about from these modern-day charlatans


#399194 Boy Says He Didn’T Go To Heaven; Publisher Says It Will Pull Book

Posted by John81 on 17 January 2015 - 08:38 PM

In an open letter, the self-described “boy who did not come back from heaven” wrote:

Please forgive the brevity, but because of my limitations I have to keep this short.

 

I did not die. I did not go to heaven.

 

I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention. When I made the claims that I did, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth. Anything written by man cannot be infallible.

 

It is only through repentance of your sins and a belief in Jesus as the Son of God, who died for your sins (even though he committed none of his own) so that you can be forgiven may you learn of heaven outside of what is written in the Bible . . . not by reading a work of man. I want the whole world to know that the Bible is sufficient.

 

Those who market these materials must be called to repent and hold the Bible as enough.

 

In Christ,

 

Alex Malarkey




#399036 Do You Believe That Divorce And Remarriage Is Acceptable ?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 14 January 2015 - 10:31 AM

just throwing this out there not saying for sure this is right: but I have heard it taught that when you make a vow before God and to your spouse to be married for life then God sees that for life and He sees you as still married to you (first) wife even though you have a paper that claims diferently.

Do you believe that in Gods eyes you are still married?

 

Let's hear from the mouth of Jesus what He thought.

 

"Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly."  John 4:16-18

 

Now, in Jesus own words, those five husbands of the woman at the well were NO LONGER her husbands. "thou HAST HAS five husbands..." She had no husband, and Jesus didn't even consider the guy she was apparently living with as her husband, either.

 

So what are we to take from this? We can insist it doesn't work into the subject, but nothing is in the BIble for no reason. Simply, in Jesus' eyes, this woman was no longer married to those fiver earlier husbands. He didn't say, 'Thou hast five husbands'. It was past-tense.

 

You seem to really be in pain over this subject and I understand-I suffered with it a lot after my wife left me for another man. But after a few years, and seeing her live with two different men as her husbands, and then taking a ring from one of them to want to marry him, I believed I had done all that was required of me, biblically, AND more, in trying, even after her fornication, to try to work things out, I agreed to a no-fault divorce, so there was no money changing hands, no child support, because we shared them back and forth, mostly as the kids wanted, because they were old enough to have a say, and no extended, hateful legal proceedings.  She has gone on to live a life embracing paganism and certain 'alternative lifestyles', and I believe that she was probably never saved in the first place, or she is at least acting like it, and I see that now as having been left by an unbelieving spouse, and so, through the fornication and unbeliving spirit of my first wife, I was free to remarry.

 

Understand, all things are under the blood. Even if I had left my wife for a you nger woman, dumper her unceremoniously, and remarried outside of God's will, I could still repent of my sin and be forgiven, its still under the blood, and, as was said earlier, to divorce the second is just to do wrong a second time. A second marriage can be sanctified the same as the first, if it is given up to Christ.




#398995 Do You Believe That Divorce And Remarriage Is Acceptable ?

Posted by Ukulelemike on 13 January 2015 - 03:46 PM

Does God, hence the Bible allow it? Yes.  Does He endorse it? No.

 

In the OT, of course, we know the Lord allowed divorce because of hard hearts, but it wasn't meant to be.

 

In the NT, we see many mentions of the subject

 

Matt 5:32 "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

 

Matt 19:9 "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

 

1Cor 7:15 "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace."

 

Divorce is aceptable in cases of fornication, or sexual sin. Notice, it isn't for adultery, becausew adultery can be acted out in the heart, wile fornication is of the body,  We can't divorce because our spouse gave someone the googly eyes, and assume they are committing adultery in their heart-it must be actual physical sexual misconduct with another person.

 

Divorce is also allowed in cases of a believer being abandoned by an unbelieving spouse-it says they are not under bondage, which would tell me that the believer can remarry, whereas, before in the same chapter, when dealing with both spouses being believers who divorce, they can, but should remain unmarried, or reconcile with their spouse.

 

Now, again, having said this, the Bible is not pro-divorce, but it does allow it in certain cases, even in the New Testament. However even in such cases as fornication, it doesn't have to occur-it is better for spouses to reconcile and come into godly union with one another-this is to be far preferred, but if it can't be for some reason, then divorce is acceptabel, and in the case of fornication, I beleve the party who did NOT commit it, is free to re-marry.




#398992 Do You Believe That Divorce And Remarriage Is Acceptable ?

Posted by MountainChristian on 13 January 2015 - 03:05 PM

Mar 10:10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
 
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
 
Like all other aspects of life, we measure up short compared to God's standards. 



#398610 Thou Shalt Not Grow A Beard.......

Posted by Ukulelemike on 08 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

And that is a perfect example of the lack in Biblical discernment among independent fundamental Baptists (even among the leadership thereof) over which my heart is so grieved.  I thought that the "fundamental" word in the title "Independent Fundamental Baptist" was supposed to mean that we are a BIBLICALLY minded people.

Perhaps is speaks more to the (hopefully) few that are leader-oriented, who demand no questioning, and themselves have asked none of those who taught them. Sadly, in every good group of people you get a few who ruin it for the rest.

 

We all know there have been IFB preachers who demand NO ONE ever question what they say, that to do so it akin to questioning God Himself! (Like Catholics). Those types, I suspect, are likey the types that, when they heard their teacher or preacher say it, they were 'encouraged' not to question it, either. So it just becomes gospel truth.

 

This is where the idea of stupid sheep comes from, or evil goats, and many other assumptions that are heard, believed and passed on, no one ever questioning it.

So really it has nothing to do with IFB-these types are in all different denominations-look at Calvin! He accepted NO questioning to what he said, and some paid with their lives. Try questioning Peter Ruckman and you're jack-leg idiot.  Preachers have to remember they are no better than anyone else-we are sheep like all the other sheep, we're just helping guide the rest of the flock.




#398594 Thou Shalt Not Grow A Beard.......

Posted by HappyChristian on 08 January 2015 - 10:33 AM

One of my professors in college had a beard (in fact, OFP, your pic reminds me of him a bit).  He was talking about it one day and said that, in his opinion, beards came back into vogue in the 60s as a statement against feminism - as in, making the point that there is something men can do that women can't: grow a beard (I know, I know, there are some women who have hirsutism and thus do have lots of facial hair, but that's the exception rather than the rule).

 

Did you know that full blood indians don't have facial hair?

 

wretched, it's interesting - we were just discussing the reason for no facial hair for military with our son. He's being called back up and so has to shave his beard.  Even though so many don't need to use the gas masks, they all have to be ready to do so. Interestingly enough, though, the military is beginning to make exceptions for religious reasons re: muslim and sikh...




#398544 Thou Shalt Not Grow A Beard.......

Posted by Standing Firm In Christ on 07 January 2015 - 01:55 PM

Ya know... they didn't like Jesus' beard either.  They that persecuted Him plucked His out.

The Bible does not condemn beards, so I won't let anyone condemn me for having one... even though it is imposible for me to keep mine looking half-way decent due to my inability to see to trim it properly.  Mine makes me look like a mountain man.  LoL


The Apostle Paul once wrote,

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

That said, two questions must be asked... 

Does that also apply to mother-in-law's?
Is it within you to shave the beard off?


Not in my nature. 

LoL




#398543 Thou Shalt Not Grow A Beard.......

Posted by heartstrings on 07 January 2015 - 01:40 PM

Lev 21:5

They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.

 

Psa 133:1-3
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;

As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

 

1Ch 19:5
Then there went certain, and told David how the men were served. And he sent to meet them: for the men were greatly ashamed. And the king said, Tarry at Jericho until your beards be grown, and then return.

 

So, my 'sweet' mother inllaw, guest in my home, is sitting at my table and blurts out "I don't like Wayne's Beard" Well. I was already aware of that since the last two times she told me. 

 The only command I can find in the Word of God concerning "beards" is that God Himself forbid the priests to "shave off the corners" of theirs. Then there is Psalm 133 with it's Holy and beautiful words comparing "unity" of "brethren" to the precious ointment running down Aaron's beard,, and then in I Chronicles we find the account of some manly Jewish men being ashamed because their beards were cut off. So why does my IFB mother in law chide me for having a goatee? And why have I heard  IFB preachers stand up and say things like "BLESS GOD, I think you need to shave the hair off here, here. and here, glory to God, that won't const youi a thing" (pointing to his lower jaw). Tell me, someone: since God made facial hair on men, not women (well most anyway :) ) and since Jesus had a beard too (Isaiah 50:6) why the fuss? For those who don't want a beard, shave it off, but how can you judge some else's spirituality for having something that God designed in the first place? And remember, those clean-shaven busts and statues from around the first century, were of  the ungodly .https://www.google.c...ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ I would tell all this (again) to my mother in law, but, you know.......      I'm glad the holidays are over.  :clapping:




#398415 Bbc Radio Service For Holy Innocents

Posted by Alimantado on 04 January 2015 - 12:46 PM

I wonder what planet you're on sometimes, Cov. You act like SFIC mentioning 'Holy Innocents Day' just came out of nowhere and has nothing to do with the OP, yet you typed exactly those words into the thread title and both the broadcast audio and the website text mentions 'Feast of the Holy Innocents', 'Holy Innocents Day' and 'marking Holy Innocents' multiple times.




#398381 Peace Like A River

Posted by AlanTaiwan on 03 January 2015 - 12:46 AM

There will be no good byes in heaven, neither sorrow, nor death. Praise the Lord! Glory Hallelujah! All of those precious babies are waiting for us. The Lord Jesus is enjoying their companionship and one day all of us will enjoy their happiness and companionship for eternity!

 

"It is Well with My Soul."

 

Alan




#398308 Partial Preterism Mat 24:3-35

Posted by MountainChristian on 31 December 2014 - 09:14 PM

I didn't know there was a partial group among the preterists until last week. I thought all Preterism was past or as I later learned full. Full believes its all past and there was more to read about them and it was easier to understand. This is Catholic and Reformed doctrine so I know nothing about it. In a little book I just finished it had a few pages about (full) preterism and that sparked my interest. 

 

I've read the Bible a lot but I've never studied doctrines. Almost all the 'isms you men talk about are new to me. 

 

Bits and pieces of this partial doctrine are in threads mostly to say others are wrong. It gets confusing to me reading the back and forth. I have trouble telling what parts partial takes as figurative. 

 

Covenanter, I thank you for laying out the partial plan as you see it.

 

​I can follow real well with why the temple was destroyed. I think that is part of all the doctrines and is the same in all the doctrines.

 

I'm at the same place I was when I started. 30-70 AD is in a different order than what Jesus predicted. I can get the part about the disciples disobeying and leaving in 69 AD before the Abomination of Discretion, I can understand they thought it was going to happen and left before Jesus told them to. I can get that they fled in the wrong direction, Jesus told them to run to the southern Mountains in the direction of Hebron. They was probably filled with fear and thought it was the end of the world.

 

A roman threw a burning brick into the temple site, it caught things on fire and the fire gutted the temple and burnt into the surrounding homes. The Abomination never took place, in 70 AD. However it was planned but the fire destroyed their plans. So what Jesus predicted didn't come to pass. Titus was going to turn it into a worship site for His adopted father. 

 

Futurism is easier to understand. It's a simple doctrine. "Did it happen the way Jesus said it would?" No, not really. "Okay it will happen word for word how the Bible says it will". 

 

 

I'll close this thread without asking more questions as the name calling and motive questioning has began in this thread too. 






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